What was a more impressive win, Islam dropping and submitting Charles or Ilia knocking out Holloway?

[Sean Chowdhury]

It's hard to pick between the two, Charles had just finished chandler, justin, and dustin and ko'd dariush a few months after losing to Islam so he was running through top contenders like butter. Max was coming off a KO win against justin but he was having relatively close fights that went the distance with Allen and Yair in his division whereas Charles was brutally finishing guys. So in my opinion Islam's win was slightly more impressive but Max has also never been ko'd while Charles has been subbed before so it's debatable

 

[Neck&Neck]

Easily Topuria
Charles is a known to have a bad chin and to fold at times

 

[JohnCena27]

Both were super impressive but Charles had been submitted before by Pettis I think and Max had never been knocked out, even though he always liked to get hit

 

[Steve Fox]

I wouldn't say impressive... Islam dropping Charles and submitting him was almost a given. Ilia knocking Max was unexpected but expected. Can't really put it into words. I would say the impact of Ilia knocking Max was bigger.

 

[Conan the K-9]

Not sure if this is a troll or bait thread, but TS you answered the question in the last sentence of your post.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

I wouldn't say impressive... Islam dropping Charles and submitting him was almost a given. Ilia knocking Max was unexpected but expected. Can't really put it into words. I would say the impact of Ilia knocking Max was bigger.

I get what you mean about Ilia ko'ing max, I picked Ilia by R3 ko on tapology but it was hard to believe max would actually get ko'd

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

we found out october 26th

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Love Charles, but he gets dropped in basically every fight and has been subbed several times. Didn't think anyone could KO Max.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Love Charles, but he gets dropped in basically every fight and has been subbed several times. Didn't think anyone could KO Max.

Yeah max had that aura of invincibility, funny enough ngannou had the same thing since he was taking clean shots from HWs without even getting rocked and we saw how that went

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

Easily Topuria
Charles is a known to have a bad chin and to fold at times

/ thread.

 

[Goatenstein]

Ilia did exactly what anyone with a brain knew he would do. Islam surprised people.

 

[rorschach51]

It's hard to pick between the two, Charles had just finished chandler, justin, and dustin and ko'd dariush a few months after losing to Islam so he was running through top contenders like butter. Max was coming off a KO win against justin but he was having relatively close fights that went the distance with Allen and Yair in his division whereas Charles was brutally finishing guys. So in my opinion Islam's win was slightly more impressive but Max has also never been ko'd while Charles has been subbed before so it's debatable

It's not hard to pick at all, it's easily Ko'ing a guy who has never been KO'ed and was considered the GOAT of the weight class not long ago.

 

[MRT]

Ilia's win, for sure.

While both wins were not huge surprises, I think it was much harder for us to envision Max getting stopped the way he did compared to Charles getting subbed.

 

[richardjohnson]

Ilia did exactly what anyone with a brain knew he would do. Islam surprised people.

I think you have it kinda backwards. Ilia knocking out Max was definitely more of a surprise than Islam submitting Charles in my opinion.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

It's not hard to pick at all, it's easily Ko'ing a guy who has never been KO'ed and was considered the GOAT of the weight class not long ago.

Max wasn't finishing featherweights as quickly as charles and max had lost to dustin and volk dominantly, Charles was on an 11 fight winstreak and finished dustin(who max lost to), I think charles is more dangerous than max so it is debatable imo

 

[markg171]

Wut

 

[Harlekin]

Running through like butter = getting knocked down left and right
Charles struggles in most of his fights

 

[Neck&Neck]

Ilia did exactly what anyone with a brain knew he would do. Islam surprised people.

This, but opposite

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Running through like butter = getting knocked down left and right
Charles struggles in most of his fights

getting knocked down once then getting a finish in the next round or the same round(in the case of the justin fight) is running through an opponent imo. It's not a clean win but he beat them decisively