What is with the Khabib hate recently?

I've seen a shitload of footage of Khabib ragdolling his teammates. A lot of it is posted on his stories though. Maybe I'll start a thread at some point.

I am sure you have. But do you think they might have selected those particular clips and put them up to make him look good and that they aren't necessarily respresentative of all of his training, nor just the usual sparring/rolling he has had? That they even might skew your perception of him, if you put too much stock into those clips.

And training is just training. If someone gets the better of another in training, it doesn't always mean that that person would do the exact same if they both gave their fullest.
 
I am sure you have. But do you think they might have selected those particular clips and put them up to make him look good and that they aren't necessarily respresentative of all of his training, nor just the usual sparring/rolling he has had? That they even might skew your perception of him if you put too much stock into those clips.
Why would Khabib get this preferential treatment over all the other champions his teams have produced? It's unfair to all of their other fighters and makes them look bad. Why would they go through these lengths? This conspiracy makes no sense.

Khabib wants so little to do with MMA and stardom at this point he won't even corner his fighters.

Yet guys like DC, Javier, Belal and his other teammates still sing his praises like he's the second coming because he's a phenom.

That 29-0 without getting scratched didn't happen by mistake.
 
There seems to be a trend recently of some sort of idea that Khabib was overrated because he never fought anybody good or moved up in weight.
Never moved to 170:
Several greats never moved up in weight, DJ, Silva never won LHW belt. Jon Jones was considered the GOAT by many before his move to HW due to his domination. This is never discussed that they never moved up or won a belt above their weight class to bring down their legacy.
"But he was a weight bully, 170 would be his normal weight class anyway"
He may of been in the 190s or even 200s in his prime. But on fight night he was never more than 185. Which is about what Poirier and Tony Ferguson weight.
Didn't fight best opponents/clear division:
The biggest names he didn't fight during this time were Alvarez, Ferguson, Barboza, Cerrone, Oliviera, Hooker, Lee, Dariush. Ferguson and Barboza wouldve gotten wrestled. Alvarez would put up a good fight I think but lost the title shot when he lost to Poirier and the left. Cerrone was old, Oliviera only had 1 ranked win I believe and the rest weren't ranked high enough.
Maybe you don't consider him MMA GOAT but it is unquestionable he is top 5. Khabib had done enough and knew he could keep fighting and keep winning but wasn't in it for the money and didn't want to take unnecessary damage. To act like he ran from anybody is delusional.
Can this idea officially be declared debunked?
What u mean recently? I've always thought he sucked. Could make a bear go into hibernation for multiple years with his fight style. He was as exciting as a prostate check by a robot that spoke like GSP, but that would be funnier.
 
And training is just training. If someone gets the better of another in training, it doesn't always mean that that person would do the exact same if they both gave their fullest.
Well, I mean, he's proven he's better at doing it in actual fights as well.
 
Why would Khabib get this preferential treatment over all the other champions his teams have produced? It's unfair to all of their other fighters and makes them look bad. Why would they go through these lengths? This conspiracy makes no sense.

Khabib wants so little to do with MMA and staredom at this point he won't even corner his fighters.

Yet guys like DC, Javier, Belal and his other teammates still sing his praises like he's the second coming because he's a phenom.

That 29-0 without getting scratched didn't happen by mistake.

It's not a conspiracy, it's promotion and yes, sometimes it's unfair to others. But Khabib has clearly always been the number one student of Abdulmanap and all the other Dagistanis from his team look up to him, so they probably didn't mind it. They support him. And the fighters you mentioned still look up to him and are his friends, teammates and students, so they are going to sing his praises still. But they clearly have a bias because they are friends and AKA is notorious for always singing the praises of their teammates shamelessly. DC, in particular, is renowned for bringing up his teammates during broadcasts while not at all relevant to the situation, just to tell everybody how great they are or even were, like Cain and now also Khabib.

Regardless, do you think that they would put up a clip up if Khabib tapped to some ADCC champ they brought in?

Well, I mean, he's proven he's better at doing it in actual fights as well.

He fought his teammates?


Lastly, this is not exclusive to AKA, at all, though. Statements from teammates from any camp should in general be taken with a grain of salt, because there is always a bias.
 
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People have been shitting on Khabib as long as I can remember. It won't stop any time soon either, as the people that hate him never got to see him lose.
 
What do you mean "recently"?

People have been calling for Khabib's head ever since he walked away from the UFC unblemished as the most dominant fighter of all time, especially after he snuffed Dana's son.

The millions of Conor fans across the internet moved on from being a fan of Conor to trying to besmirch Khabib in GOAT discussions because he left them with no one to cheer for.

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The old Conor fans are now Jon fans - all they need is a vessel to try to troll
 
It's not a conspiracy, it's promotion and yes, sometimes it's unfair to others. But Khabib has clearly always been the number one student of Abdulmanap and all the other Dagistanis from his team look up to him, so they probably didn't mind it. They support him. And the fighters you mentioned still look up to him and are his friends, teammates and students, so they are going to sing his praises still. But they clearly have a bias because they are friends and AKA is notorious for always singing the praises of their teammates shamelessly. DC, in particular, is renowned for bringing up his teammates during broadcasts while not at all relevant to the situation, just to tell everybody how great they are or even were, like Cain and now also Khabib.

Regardless, do you think that they would put up a clip up if Khabib tapped to some ADCC champ they brought in?



He fought his teammates?


Lastly, this is not exclusive to AKA, at all, though. Statements from teammates from any camp should in general be taken with a grain of salt, because there is always a bias.
I mean DC just called Khabib the GOAT. That's hefty praise. It's above what he has said about anyone else in the history of AKA. Same with Javier. No self respecting gym, particularly one of best ones in the world is going to put some retired fighter as their GOAT unless they believe it.

As far as training footage. It's always taboo to post what happens behind closed doors. Khabib and his buddies post clips because they have that comfort. Maybe a couple others do as well. Belal posted a short clip of Khabib dominating him for instance.

This goes for almost all self respecting gyms not just AKA.
 
recently? Ive always hated him and his style and the guys a dick. Most overrated fighter ever. If he had more fights like the conor fight It might have changed my mind a little bit. Every other fight was hold the legs and throw pitter patter ground and pound and dont give up position.
 
Oh yeah it must be hate if you don't felate Khabib and share the ridiculous notion that this dude cemented himself as the greatest of all time.

This dude gets a fraction of the hate of GSP or Jones ever did.
 
I mean DC just called Khabib the GOAT. That's hefty praise. It's above what he has said about anyone else in the history of AKA. Same with Javier. No self respecting gym, particularly one of best ones in the world is going to put some retired fighter as their GOAT unless they believe it.

As far as training footage. It's always taboo to post what happens behind closed doors. Khabib and his buddies post clips because they have that comfort. Maybe a couple others do as well. Belal posted a short clip of Khabib dominating him for instance.

This goes for almost all self respecting gyms not just AKA.
This same shill has Amanda Nunes as a top5 greatest fighters of all time.

I would put more weight in the opinion of a Sherdogger than DC.
 
This same shill has Amanda Nunes as a top5 greatest fighters of all time.

I would put more weight in the opinion of a Sherdogger than DC.
Pretty sure DC was trying to be inclusive.

Jones has Khabib in his top 5 as well though... now what?
 
Pretty sure DC was trying to be inclusive.

Jones has Khabib in his top 5 as well though... now what?
I've said it before and I will say it again. There is no fighter's opinion who i truly value anymore than my own.

Khabib isn't the top5 in many pro fighter's opinions

Now what? Who gets to pick and choose whose opinion is more valid than others?
 
I've said it before and I will say it again. There is no fighter's opinion who i truly value anymore than my own.

Khabib isn't the top5 in many pro fighter's opinions

Now what? Who gets to pick and choose whose opinion is more valid than others?
I think the GOAT's like GSP, Jones and DC's opinions all hold more validity yes.

All of those mentioned consider Khabib the GOAT or one of them.
 
I mean DC just called Khabib the GOAT. That's hefty praise. It's above what he has said about anyone else in the history of AKA. Same with Javier. No self respecting gym, particularly one of best ones in the world is going to put some retired fighter as their GOAT unless they believe it.

Since when has a retired status ever held anyone back from calling someone a GOAT? GOAT literally means Of All Time, so retirement is actually prefered, because you can review their entire career. Hell, Ali is long dead and he is still called the GOAT by many.

As far as training footage. It's always taboo to post what happens behind closed doors. Khabib and his buddies post clips because they have that comfort. Maybe a couple others do as well. Belal post a short clip of Khabib dominating him for instance.

This goes for almost all self respecting gyms not just AKA.

Sure, because it's a dick move to the one that is possibly getting the worst in the exchange, and if the fighters are still active and it is current footage, you don't want to give anything away to the opposition. Therefor whatever is released will always be carefully seleceted, so it won't have any real negative consequences to the fighters or the gym. Therefor you know there is a selection process where there is a discussion and asked consent, before releasing it. It's the same with social media. People put pictures on their social media that makes them look good. Same for fighters, they release footage that makes them look good. It's still real footage 99% of the time, but's only what they want you to see. Not what every day practice necessarily looks like.but they want the opposition to think that it looks like they are constantly in beast mode 24/7 *insert Corey Anderson*. It's part of the mental warfare between gyms. Because as a gym, the guy who is going up against your fighter is constanly thinking about the guy from your gym. A lot of great fighters already have their opponents beat before the fight itself, because they are intimidated by the reputation that a fighter has and a lot of that reputation comes from teammates and trainers being in the media, telling everybody the near impossible feats their fighter has been doing during camp. Same like with Ronda supposedly dropping boxing champs with body shots in sparring. Difference is Edmund took it a bit too far, obviously. It's too unbelievable. But it's the same mindset of promoting the guy or girl from your gym.
 
What do you mean "recently"?

People have been calling for Khabib's head ever since he walked away from the UFC unblemished as the most dominant fighter of all time, especially after he snuffed Dana's son.

The millions of Conor fans across the internet moved on from being a fan of Conor to trying to besmirch Khabib in GOAT discussions because he left them with no one to cheer for.

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That image is missing khabibs face from his 9th and 10th title fights, why?
 
Since when has a retired status ever held anyone back from calling someone a GOAT? GOAT literally means Of All Time, so retirement is actually prefered, because you can review their entire career. Hell, Ali is long dead and he is still called the GOAT by many.



Sure, because it's a dick move to the one that is possibly getting the worst in the exchange, and if the fighters are still active and it is current footage, you don't want to give anything away to the opposition. Therefor whatever is released will always be varefully seleceted, so it won't have any real negative consequences to the fighters or the gym. Therefor you lnow there is a selection process where there is a discussion and asked consent, before releasing it. It's the same with social media. People put pictures on their social media that makes them look good. Same for fighters, they release footage that makes them look good. It's still real footage 99% of the time, but's only what they want you to see. Not what every day practice necessarily looks like.but they want the opposition to think that it looks like they are constantly in beast mode 24/7 *insert Corey Anderson*. It's part of the mental warfare between gyms. Because as a gym, the guy who is going up against your fighter is constanly thinking about the guy from your gym. A lot of great fighters already have their opponents beat before the fight itself, because they are intimidated by the reputation that a fighter has and a lot of that reputation comes from teammates and trainers being in the media, telling everybody the near impossible feats their fighter has been doing during camp. Same like with Ronda supposedly dropping boxing champs with body shots in sparring. Difference is Edmund took it a bit too far, obviously. It's too unbelievable. But it's the same mindset of promoting the guy or girl from your gym.
Him being retired has everything to do with it because he is no longer even an active fighter, coach or champ at the gym. Why does Javier still say Khabib is better than Islam for instance when Islam is the current LW champ? Shit Islam still says Khabib is better than him.

All of this well _____ is probably saying this just because ______ reason is pretty weak in the face of the facts, which is that everyone around him consistently says Khabib is the best which is not very hard to believe when considering he's the only 29-0 without getting scratched in MMA history.
 
I think the GOAT's like GSP, Jones and DC's opinions all hold more validity yes.

All of those mentioned consider Khabib the GOAT or one of them.
I consider guys with more proven records against the very best for long periods time ahead of a guy who faced a handful of top fighters then retired.

No other GOAT candidate has over 50% of their wins over guys with no Wikipedia page.

Adesanya has a better resume than Khabib. Don't even need to talk about guys like Jones, GSP, Fedor and Silva.
 
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