What happened to Zuffa Boxing?

[David Street]

Than they are fools if they let rumors get out of hand.

 

[defjaam]

What happened is that Dana has been lurking around in Vegas and trying to get into the boxing business since the 1990s... he was one of the people who kept saying how awful MMA is and that it could never compete with boxing, and deep in his heart he may still think so.
Look at the list of fighters he had fallouts with: Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Wanderlei Silva, Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou, and many more.
His ways of doing business wouldn't fly in boxing.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

What happened is that Dana has been lurking around in Vegas and trying to get into the boxing business since the 1990s... he was one of the people who kept saying how awful MMA is and that it could never compete with boxing, and deep in his heart he may still think so.
Look at a list of fighters he had fallouts with: Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Wanderlei Silva, Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou, and many more.
His ways of doing business wouldn't fly in boxing.

Dana does seem to prefer boxing which is why he's been caught on several occasions watching boxing PPVs cageside at his own UFC events. He previously admitted that he didn't like the grappling aspects of MMA initially. As a boxing guy he just didn't understand it at first and he knows that fans prefer standup fighting.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Dana does seem to prefer boxing which is why he's been caught on several occasions watching boxing PPVs cageside at his own UFC events. He previously admitted that he didn't like the grappling aspects of MMA initially. As a boxing guy he just didn't understand it at first and he knows that fans prefer standup fighting.

I mean he's been "caught" watching boxing because it is his competition of course. If Canelo loses he wants to know right away.

Even if he preferred it, it wouldn't explain why he would watch it at a UFC event. Those things aren't binary.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I mean he's been "caught" watching boxing because it is his competition of course. If Canelo loses he wants to know right away.

Even if he preferred it, it wouldn't explain why he would watch it at a UFC event. Those things aren't binary.

Strange timing to keep tabs on your competition. You could just catch a RBR for that there's no need to watch the PPV. Dana's always wanted to be in the boxing business. Even when he had his beef with Tito he wanted to box him.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Strange timing to keep tabs on your competition. You could just catch a RBR for that there's no need to watch the PPV. Dana's always wanted to be in the boxing business. Even when he had his beef with Tito he wanted to box him.

As opposed to what? Dana doesn't know how to grapple.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

As opposed to what? Dana doesn't know how to grapple.

They could've kickboxed, armwrestled, whatever. You're right he doesn't know how to grapple. If he did then he'd appreciate that aspect of MMA more. Have you ever heard him talk about grappling at length? I doubt he fully understands what he's even watching in an MMA fight when it hits the ground.

 

[LNwolf87]

They could've kickboxed, armwrestled, whatever. You're right he doesn't know how to grapple. If he did then he'd appreciate that aspect of MMA more. Have you ever heard him talk about grappling at length? I doubt he fully understands what he's even watching in an MMA fight when it hits the ground.

It'd make more sense for him if he did what ONE does and have Muay Thai fights in MMA gloves in a cage rather than slap "fighting"

 

[LNwolf87]

Dana has been saying this for more than a decade and still nothing …. Shares of tko are dropping not the best time for another investment

I'm not talking about Dana in particular, but more so the enormous machine he now has behind him in WME. With the recent purchase of WWE and being under the umbrella of TKO, makes me think it's a possibility of them getting into Boxing on some level.

 

[Oyal]

No boxer anyone wants to see is willing to fight for $10k show money and Venum coupon win bonus

 

[Athenry04]

Unrelated, but I'd proper watch a brawl for all 2:0.

 

[David Street]

Endeavor Group Holdings and Fenway Sports Group are considering together investing in the PGA Tour. Such an investment could potentially rival or coincide with a deal proposed by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.

PGA, DP World Tour and Saudi-backed LIV circuit, who had been involved in a bitter fight that split the world of golf, announced an agreement to merge and form one unified commercial entity.

PGA said planned merger with LIV and DP World Tour, Endeavor Group and Fenway Sports together are considering investing in the new version of the PGA Tour.

This will cost Endeavor's TKO Holdings billions but is an opportunity as PGA Tour’s pending agreement with the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF) is being blocked by scrutiny from U.S. lawmakers and 9/11 families.

So much for TKO being the home of combat sports, unless they can keep this in-house under the IMG banner?

 

[HunterAcosta]

Dana realized he could make trillions in Slap Boxing and make it surpass soccer , so canned Zuffa Boxing

 

[David Street]

Dana realized he could make trillions in Slap Boxing and make it surpass soccer , so canned Zuffa Boxing

Dana has his hands in many sports with The Ferittia brothers and are not Zuffa. including PowerSlap. Thrill One Sports & Entertainment, Nitro Circus Live: is a travelling extreme sports show led by Travis Pastrana, Nitrocross, formerly known as Travis Pastran's Nitro Rallycross, Thrill One Media, Superjacket Productions (“Ridiculousness,” “The Dude Perfect Show,” “Rob Dyrdek’s Fantasy Factory” and “Rob & Big.”), Street League Skateboarding (SLS: Rob Dyrdek's Street League Skateboarding), Nitro World Games, Power Slap League.

He by himself owns only DWCS.

None of these are part of Zuffa yet.

(Doubt TKO would buy any of these but DWCS)

If Dana created a Slap Bare Knuckle fighting league it would be better.

 

[HunterAcosta]

Dana has his hands in many sports with The Ferittia brothers and are not Zuffa. including PowerSlap. Thrill One Sports & Entertainment, Nitro Circus Live: is a travelling extreme sports show led by Travis Pastrana, Nitrocross, formerly known as Travis Pastran's Nitro Rallycross, Thrill One Media, Superjacket Productions (“Ridiculousness,” “The Dude Perfect Show,” “Rob Dyrdek’s Fantasy Factory” and “Rob & Big.”), Street League Skateboarding (SLS: Rob Dyrdek's Street League Skateboarding), Nitro World Games, Power Slap League.

He by himself owns only DWCS.

None of these are part of Zuffa yet.

(Doubt TKO would buy any of these but DWCS)

If Dana created a Slap Bare Knuckle fighting league it would be better.

I slap boxed a bunch as kid . With movement . Slap boxing with movement would 100 be better than what they have now .

 

[Sinister]

What happened is that Dana has been lurking around in Vegas and trying to get into the boxing business since the 1990s... he was one of the people who kept saying how awful MMA is and that it could never compete with boxing, and deep in his heart he may still think so.
Look at the list of fighters he had fallouts with: Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Wanderlei Silva, Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou, and many more.
His ways of doing business wouldn't fly in boxing.

This, Dana is a laughing stock in the Vegas boxing community.

Also no one trusts the way the UFC does business. You know that huge fallout with Stitch? Hes a regular around the gyms and everyone heard about it directly from his mouth.

 

[RizinSon88]

I was thinking they could do what ONE does with MT, Kickboxing and grappling...then I realized ONE doesn't do a boxing title and if the UFC created a boxing championship but then it would immediately fall under the legislation of boxing in the US where having anyone fight for said title would reduce the UFC to having the same influence/control over fighters that any other boxing organization has like the IBF. I don't think they want that, they would have to alter or end fighter contracts if they ever put out a boxing title even for the signed MMA fighters if they wanted to box.

 

[Prefect]

From this Tuesday's Contender Series Press Conference, two different questions about Boxing.

9:45 - Reporter leads Dana w/ a question hinting at TKO getting into Boxing, Dana: "Sounds good to me!" (with a smirk)
15:53 - After discussing how much he [Dana] loves Callum Walsh & saying he thinks he could be a World Champion in the next year, TKO getting into Boxing and signing Callum Walsh is discussed.

Is anyone else surprise by how quickly Dana White is turning into Mr.Mcgoo. Bruce Willis was the last guy I know over that just turned old overnight.

 

[MT5]

I was thinking they could do what ONE does with MT, Kickboxing and grappling...then I realized ONE doesn't do a boxing title and if the UFC created a boxing championship but then it would immediately fall under the legislation of boxing in the US where having anyone fight for said title would reduce the UFC to having the same influence/control over fighters that any other boxing organization has like the IBF. I don't think they want that, they would have to alter or end fighter contracts if they ever put out a boxing title even for the signed MMA fighters if they wanted to box.

Yes. Ultimately White is a smart businessman. So what is the niche he would be filling? There is none, at least none thats legal so far as I can tell. A centralized boxing "league" would be the only thing that would make sense and I think that'd be illegal. Instead he'd just be another promoter. Like Top Rank or PBC and I don't think he thinks that's worth the trouble/risk.

Although I wonder if it's doable outside the US. He's been drooling after Mexico forever, and boxing is huge there. I could imagine a "Zuffa Boxeo" doing joint boxing/MMA cards there. (Assuming Mexican law didn't stand in the way.)

 

[listrahtes]

The Zufa model only works by having close to a monopoly forcing fighters into small percentage long term contracts . If Dana / WME could own the three big boxing titles ,( well WBO is more legit nowadays than WBC,) they would have a strong pressuring tool but don't think that would fly. Buying out other promotors would just create new ones or self promotion by the top dogs.

Dana tried but at least for now it doesn't work like that in boxing. He has no concept of succeeding in an an actual open free market.