What happened to Werdum?

[discrawg]

So I think we all agree that charging straight at a good boxer is not a smart game plan, a lesson that generously gifted to us by Ronda.
Now, if this is common knowledge to us as sherdoggers, then it would be extremely naive to even entertain the thought that the former Heavyweight UFC champion was unaware of this.

So how did this happen? What was Fabricio's game plan? Keep in mind that it wasn't a split second mistake, Werdum was charging straight at Stipe over and over.

I personally think he wanted to work in the clinch, more than just getting a takedown specifically. He did take a half hearted shot at one stage, but it looks to me like that was just to set up strikes.

My opinion is that he wanted the clinch, and decided to get there by charging at Stipe and forcing him into it, rather that setting it up and being patient.
He knew Stipe wanted to stay in boxing range, so while underestimating the challengers hands, Werdum was over confident, (almost cocky) and tried to force a clinch without any respect for the consequences.

Thoughts?

 

[melvinj0]

He got popped with miocic's jab a couple of times which hurt him and made him get desperate.

 

[Tamriel Terror]

well he went for one of the worse takedown attempts ive ever seen, plus stipe was checking his kicks and overall being to quick for him. Werdum typically has trouble with faster, better boxers (Stipe, JDS, pitbull, sergei). I think he got the rush of being in Brazil and being overconfident.

 

[ShoopNazi]

hmmm...what a clever way to avoid the trilogy with Overeem.
I see what he did there.

 

[ortizgnp]

He got popped a couple of times which hurt him and made him get desperate.

What did he take?


:>

 

[melvinj0]

What did he take?


:>

Big dick pills

 

[AceCooch]

Werdum just wasn't that amazing in the first place...

He won his fights through strategy, and so when he decided to troll and believe he was amazing, then there was no strategy and he lost

 

[ShoopNazi]

Werdum just wasn't that amazing in the first place...

He won his fights through strategy, and so when he decided to troll and believe he was amazing, then there was no strategy and he lost

Yeah, beating Fedor, Overeem and Cain is soooooo overrated and not amazing.

Lol

 

[AceCooch]

Yeah, beating Fedor, Overeem and Cain is soooooo overrated.

Lol

And strategy wasn't a factor in that at all? He didn't come with a game plan in all of those fights? he didn't dictate the pace, and pick them apart?

This is like if Jon Jones suddenly fought Rumble or Texeira and decided to go in with his hands down, and taunt them...

Yeah he looks unstoppable, and he's beaten tons of great fighters, but he isn't amazing enough that he can survive doing that, he has to have a strategy to beat his opponents... The same way he beats all of them, this is why people credit Jones with such a high fight IQ

 

[UrijahHall]

 

[Rogerdraven]

Overconfidence and a 1 year layoff were the biggest factors.

 

[ShoopNazi]

And strategy wasn't a factor in that at all? He didn't come with a game plan in all of those fights? he didn't dictate the pace, and pick them apart?

This is like if Jon Jones suddenly fought Rumble or Texeira and decided to go in with his hands down, and taunt them...

Yeah he looks unstoppable, and he's beaten tons of great fighters, but he isn't amazing enough that he can survive doing that, he has to have a strategy to beat his opponents... The same way he beats all of them, this is why people credit Jones with such a high fight IQ

Think about what you're saying man. If Jones decided to go toe to toe with Rumble and gets ko'd then you > ..."bah! Jones wasn't that amazing in the first place."

see it now?

 

[Bend NvR Break]

It's a fight. $%&# happens sometimes.

 

[dim_]

I would have used a smaller image, but...

I dont think we can keep putting all these champs losing belts down to lucky punches, bad strategy etc. At some point we have to just recognise the landscape has changed.

And for those who say that being off ped's doesnt change your tactics strategy etc, dont underestimate how much confidence they can give you, and without them, its pretty normal for athletes to question themselves, their ability, and akme bad decisions.

Now that may not be the case with Werdum, but somewhere, in the middle of Werdum, Aldo, Rousey, Dillashaw, Pettis, Lawler (who didnt lose but looked awful), youve gotta think at least 1 of them was USADA related.

 

[AceCooch]

Think about what you're saying man. If Jones decided to go toe to toe with Rumble and gets ko'd then you > ..."bah! he wasn't amazing in the first place."

see it now?

Anderson SIlva is probably the only fighter other than the Diaz brothers, who has ever been able to walk in front of an opponent with his hands down, eat shots and still win dominantly...

Werdum had no strategy against Stipe, except to be a troll, and therefore he lost... same would happen with most champions, like Jones..

Werdum thought he was amazing enough to win without trying, and he couldn't... end of story

 

[ShoopNazi]

Anderson SIlva is probably the only fighter other than the Diaz brothers, who has ever been able to walk in front of an opponent with his hands down, eat shots and still win dominantly...

Werdum had no strategy against Stipe, except to be a troll, and therefore he lost... same would happen with most champions, like Jones..

Werdum thought he was amazing enough to win without trying, and he couldn't... end of story

Okay, so you don't see it.

bye.

 

[Sonny Qc]

It's an HEAVYWEIGHT fight, Big hand landed on the face sometimes...

 

[JosephTessaro]

He lost. It happens.

 

[HIMBOB]

See thats not what happened here.

This wasn't a cardio machine getting tired this was a calculated assassin deciding to charge at an opponent in total disregard to his own safety.

 

[DynamicFastener]

Trollfaced so much that he trolled himself.