What effect will the Aspinall duck have on JBJ's legacy?

[moosaev]

Personally i don't think Jones will ever fight Aspinall. I also think the way he's behaving is circumstantial evidence that he also ducked Ngannou, the whole 3 yr bulking process was just a duck as far as i'm concerned.

So now he has steroids, and soon he'll have a history of ducking his biggest challenges. To me thats enough to knock him off the GOAT perch.

 

[joy2day]

He will be a joke forever if we go through all of this nonsense and he never ends up fighting Tom.

 

[Azure]

His fans will claim him to be the goat no matter what

 

[moosaev]

He will be a joke forever if we go through all of this nonsense and he never ends up fighting Tom.

He won't fight Tom. He's asking for an insane payoff and the UFC is in a position where they don't have to do that. They'll make their money either way, they don't need Jon.

 

[Substance Abuse]

None at all.

Even if he lost to Aspinall it really wouldn't. He was just old.

 

[joy2day]

He won't fight Tom. He's asking for an insane payoff and the UFC is in a position where they don't have to do that. They'll make their money either way, they don't need Jon.

I think the UFC is compromised right now because the PPVs are falling flat, and ESPN apparently isn't happy. They need fights with notoriety. The thing is, it doesn't help if they have to pay more money for the fight than it is actually worth for the payout they would get. Jon is probably pricing himself out intentionally though.

I don't think it hurts his legacy at LHW, but he will be a joke to fans after this the way we have waited for a couple years and it never happens.

 

[moosaev]

None at all.

Even if he lost to Aspinall it really wouldn't. He was just old.

On some level i think Jones losing to Aspinall is better for his legacy than him ducking Aspinall.

 

[Substance Abuse]

On some level i think Jones losing to Aspinall is better for his legacy than him ducking Aspinall.

There's a ton of people who don't think less of his career after all the positive tests and everything he's done outside of the cage. Those people won't be moved either way. The haters will still hate as well.

 

[Skarsgard]

It's not going to change anyone's mind at this point. His fans will go on about how he has earned his shots because of asterisk-laden accolades in another division. Others will downplay those accolades because of said asterisks.
Realistically, the UFC fucked up by even giving him the title shot. They're clearly desperate for something big and are just throwing shit at the walls in hopes that something will stick.

 

[Ibm]

Jones will always be the one who would beat his competeition if he retires today. He already fought at HW twice and beat the top guys. He should just retire honestly.

 

[RockyLockridge]

He will be a joke forever if we go through all of this nonsense and he never ends up fighting Tom.

I have to agree with this, he's backed himself into a corner now he has to fight aspinall he has no other viable options.

I'm not concerned as I'm 99% certain he will fight aspinall before the end of this calandar year.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

It's jon you have to do mental gymnastics to either like or hate the guy. He hasn't ever lost but he is a cheat and a horrible person.

 

[Lee Danger]

this entire bs at HW in the end of his career + multiple PED tests failed will be his legacy.

 

[Skarsgard]

It's jon you have to do mental gymnastics to either like or hate the guy. He hasn't ever lost but he is a cheat and a horrible person.

He's never lost except for the time he lost.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

He's never lost except for the time he lost.

That's not a loss we all saw it ask Matt who won

 

[goOb]

Jones will fight Aspinall. I will not speak the opposite into existence. Also not because I am a fan of Jones. I am a fan of great fights and this one is definitely a great fight. One that I am looking forward to seeing.

 

[Vehap1]

That's not a loss we all saw it ask Matt who won

Pretty sure hes talking about Reyes

 

[prime_lobov]

No effect. The only legacy being affected is Tom’s, because he’s been sitting on his ass for 2 years crying about Jon Jones.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

Pretty sure hes talking about Reyes

Well that's a dumb close fight but all these guys are gonna have close fights if you are champ forever. I hate Jon and always root against him but fucking dude finds a way

 

[Skarsgard]

That's not a loss we all saw it ask Matt who won

Jones cheated and lost via DQ. It was a loss. It's an exceptionally valid loss for a fighter with a habit of fouling so bad that it'd make Gilbert Yvel squeamish.