What does Tim Sylvia and Tyson Fury have in common?
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That was the last fight Tim showed up under 300lbs.
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Both are unjacked white boys. Deal with it.
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Beautiful. The way he snaps it, the way he moves his feet as he throws as it and right after, the way he stays busy and disrupts his opponent's rhythm.
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Ray KO'd, taken down and GNP'd Tim in 9 seconds.Wow I never noticed Mercer double legged him after the punch.
Edit: may be a single leg
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i thought it was badass ray mercer slept tim sylvia like that, one because i disliked tim sylvia, and two, i always root for the old dogs who still got it. symbolic of life, the path of man and all that shit.
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Tim Sylvia - former UFC HW champion who got sparked cold by an old former boxing HW champion in an MMA fight.Not only were they both built the same, they overlooked and underestimated their opponents. Tim Sylvia had a fight booked against Paul Buentello just like Fury had the Usyk fight afterwards, and we saw what happened. Honorable Mention, Ubereem vs Hari. All Heavyweights too.
Tim Sylvia vs Ray Mercer
Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou
Badr Hari vs Alistair Overeem 1
Tyson Fury - reigning lineal Boxing HW champion who got dropped and beat by reigning lineal HW MMA champion in a boxing match.
They are opposite equivalents
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Sylvia was actually ranked 7th in the world after losing to Fedor, so even if other guys passed him by by the time he fought Ray Mercer (it was a full year later after all), there's no way he wasn't at least top 10.
https://rankingmma.com/world-mma-heavyweight-rankings-2008/
The fact that Tim was top 10 was a big deal at the time, since it helped boxing fans discredit MMA... and a big joke was made of the fact that Ray Mercer became ranked like 14h or 13th in the world on Fightmatrix after starching him in 9 seconds
https://middleeasy.com/uncategorize...anked-mma-heavyweight-in-the-world-seriously/
Sylvia was supposed to fight Paul Buentello
(who was still riding the high of stopping the Baby Fedor hype train, since most MMA pundits expected Kirill to Sambo his ass... that was the win that got Paul back in the UFC)
next at Affliction III...
Had Tim easily out-jabbed & low-kicked Mercer there were plenty of potential fights for him out there.
Jérôme Lebanner had been calling Sylvia out for a while and a fight with him could have been cool, Sylvia could have also tried to get fights with Aleksander Emelianenko or Kirill Sidelnikov, to stay in the Emelianenko family.
It was so frustrating to watch Sylvia show up so out of shape and get his head bashed in by the first punch Ray threw, what a shitshow...
We got the results right after a live UFC event, sitting on the grass outside the arena, so I was around a bunch of MMA guys when someone checking their phone giggled and announced that Timmy got KTFO and it was a shower of "what an idiot, no way, Jesus fucking Christ, we'll never hear the end of it"...
I'm no fighter basher myself, huge sin in my eyes, but I still remember what I shamefully said on the spot
I mean, it's like Tim wanted to make Fedor look bad, "oh he Zulu's me? Well imma find some old man who never fought in MMA before and get Zulu'd even quicker, that'll show him" )
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He had no business being ranked in the top10 by that point. Still not the same as if he was the reigning, defending ufc champ and got 1 punchedSylvia was actually ranked 7th in the world after losing to Fedor, so even if other guys passed him by by the time he fought Ray Mercer (it was a full year later after all), there's no way he wasn't at least top 10.
https://rankingmma.com/world-mma-heavyweight-rankings-2008/
The fact that Tim was top 10 was a big deal at the time, since it helped boxing fans discredit MMA... and a big joke was made of the fact that Ray Mercer became ranked like 14h or 13th in the world on Fightmatrix after starching him in 9 seconds
https://middleeasy.com/uncategorize...anked-mma-heavyweight-in-the-world-seriously/
Sylvia was supposed to fight Paul Buentello
(who was still riding the high of stopping the Baby Fedor hype train, since most MMA pundits expected Kirill to Sambo his ass... that was the win that got Paul back in the UFC)
next at Affliction III...
Had Tim easily out-jabbed & low-kicked Mercer there were plenty of potential fights for him out there.
Jérôme Lebanner had been calling Sylvia out for a while and a fight with him could have been cool, Sylvia could have also tried to get fights with Aleksander Emelianenko or Kirill Sidelnikov, to stay in the Emelianenko family.
It was so frustrating to watch Sylvia show up so out of shape and get his head bashed in by the first punch Ray threw, what a shitshow...
We got the results right after a live UFC event, sitting on the grass outside the arena, so I was around a bunch of MMA guys when someone checking their phone giggled and announced that Timmy got KTFO and it was a shower of "what an idiot, no way, Jesus fucking Christ, we'll never hear the end of it"...
I'm no fighter basher myself, huge sin in my eyes, but I still remember what I shamefully said on the spot
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I agree. He was an overachiever, who was doubted by his coach (Miletich) and ridiculed by his teammate/idol (Hughes). He reached an almost impossible apex, all while looking very average and having none of the mystique /appeal of other MMA champions/superstars. It's easy to pick apart his legacy with the benefit of hindsight - the harder but more mature and honorable thing to do is to give him his dud respect.
