What does it mean to be "White"?

[MysticNinjaJay]

Oh so you could get worked up over it like these people?

http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/its-2...g-worked-about-interracial-couples-ads-149889

I wouldn't get worked up over it. But White Supremacists would.

 

[Vagitarian]

The fact that Japan is in Asia.

Most of Turkey, Middle East, and Russia is in Asia. But they're not Asian.

Also being born on the continent makes you Asian? I thought it was about genetics?

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

Most of Turkey, Middle East, and Russia is in Asia. But they're not Asian.

Also being born on the continent makes you Asian? I thought it was about genetics?

That's really an issue of semantics. Those countries and regions could be considered Asian because they are in Asia. In England they call people from India and Pakistan South Asians. In America we do not. Japanese, Chinese and Koreans have traditionally been classified as Mongoloids. Some today call them East Asians. Southeast Asians and even Native Americans have also been classified as Mongoloids. But traditional racial categories like Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid are no longer regarded as having scientific value by many biologists, geneticists and anthropologists.

There is nothing wrong with using geographic labels to designate people. Major continental terms are just fine, and sub-regional refinements such as Western European, Eastern African, Southeast Asian, and so forth carry no unintentional baggage. In contrast, terms such as "Negroid," "Caucasoid," and "Mongoloid" create more problems than they solve. Those very terms reflect a mix of narrow regional, specific ethnic, and descriptive physical components with an assumption that such separate dimensions have some kind of common tie. Biologically, such terms are worse than useless. Their continued use, then, is in social situations where people think they have some meaning. - C Loring Brace

I recommend reading these articles on the subject:

1. Conceptualizing human variation Nature Genetics 36, S17 - S20 (2004)

2. Biological Races in Humans Stud Hist Philos Biol Biomed Sci. 2013 Sep; 44(3): 262–271

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Apparently, it means being so amazing that almost everyone else needs a crutch to compete.

I think that's also what it means to be male.

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

Apparently, it means being so amazing that almost everyone else needs a crutch to compete.

I think that's also what it means to be male.

What is so amazing about being White? You're not explosive and athletic. You get sunburn if you stay outside too long. I have nothing against White people but White Supremacists who brag about being White don't have any arguments about why others should envy them. They just brag about historical achievements they took no part in. I'll acknowledge one thing, some of your women are really pretty.

 

[Slippery Kantus]

Personal responsibility.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

What is so amazing about being White? You're not explosive and athletic. You get sunburn if you stay outside too long. I have nothing against White people but White Supremacists who brag about being White don't have any arguments about why others should envy them. They just brag about historical achievements they took no part in. I'll acknowledge one thing, some of your women are really pretty.

You should look into skin cancer rates. You all get it much more, due to you thinkin you're impervious to the sun lol.

And maybe physical activities and fucking women is higher on your list of great thing in life, but I prefer sound financial decision making, and relative safety of our societies. Keep posting those pics though. I'm sure some are seething just looking at it lol

And for clarification, I don't think anyone is superior. It just depends on what is more important to you.

 

[Valhoven]

 

[PrinceOfPain]

What is so amazing about being White? You're not explosive and athletic. You get sunburn if you stay outside too long. I have nothing against White people but White Supremacists who brag about being White don't have any arguments about why others should envy them. They just brag about historical achievements they took no part in. I'll acknowledge one thing, some of your women are really pretty.

yeah, it was a joke, bright-spark. I'm not a white supremacist, but posts like this are how you make them
Are all members of whatever race you are as stupid as you?

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

You should look into skin cancer rates. You all get it much more, due to you thinkin you're impervious to the sun lol.

And maybe physical activities and fucking women is higher on your list of great thing in life, but I prefer sound financial decision making, and relative safety of our societies. Keep posting those pics though. I'm sure some are seething just looking at it lol

I'm not arguing that I am impervious to the sun just that Whites are more susceptible to sunburn. That's just a fact. It doesn't make them inferior or anything. The explosive and athletic comment was just a joke. This is Sherdog. I value making good financial decisions and living in a safe society over fucking women, that's not a White characteristic. At the end of the day if I woke up one day and I was White how would that benefit my life? There's White privilege but that's overrated and a product of how society treats you. How is it better to be White?

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

I'm not arguing that I am impervious to the sun just that Whites are more susceptible to sunburn. That's just a fact. It doesn't make them inferior or anything. The explosive and athletic comment was just a joke. This is Sherdog. I value making good financial decisions and living in a safe society over fucking women, that's not a White characteristic. At the end of the day if I woke up one day and I was White how would that benefit my life? There's White privilege but that's overrated and a product of how society treats you. How is it better to be White?

I don't know how it's better. since I don't think that, You would have to ask another poster. if I woke up black, i would feel the same. Nothing is inherently better now that I turned black, just different in the ways the community would have me act.

It's more culture to me.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

Whites bred with Neanderthals though. They aren't the same as primitive humans anymore, because of that. So it's not arbitrary. Whites are different.

Source?

Do you think orientals and blacks the same race?

 

[Valhoven]

 

[Rod1]

I don't know how it's better. since I don't think that, You would have to ask another poster. if I woke up black, i would feel the same. Nothing is inherently better now that I turned black, just different in the ways the community would have me act.

It's more culture to me.

If i woke up black first thing i would do is measure my dick and see if it grew and inch or 2. Also probably my wife would call the police seeing a stranger on her bed.

If my wife woke up black then, well that would make for a good porn film plot.

 

[Vagitarian]

That's a working definition though; so your issue would be, f.ex., with colonial peoples - like Australians of Oceania? Or what Whites rather render the definition unworkable?



I see in less than the span of a single breath that this male is not White. But regardless and back to your Achilles' heel, anomalies exist while single-criterion absolute truths in this regard do not. If we cannot agree on that then let's agree to disagree. Good luck with your objective.

White people who render that definition unworkable:
Finns: genetic markers found in people considered "Asian"
Don't speak an Indo-European Language

Hungarians: don't speak an Indo European Language

Armenians: Look just like what is considered white yet are not from Europe at all

Turks: Same reason

Basque people: Don't speak and Indo-European Language

Iranians and Indians: Speak an Indo-European language which in linguistics implies a certain genetic bond because if our languages are related, we must have come from the same ancestor language, which means we were one tribe at some point. But they're not European and don't always have fair skin. Plus Indians never get considered white. Some can pass for them but as soon as you hear theyre Indian, they're not white anymore.

When there are numerous anomalies and caveats to a ruleset, is this ruleset even valid? There has to be at least some level of consistency to it but it seems every trait that could define a white person is arbitrary.

Unless

these two are the same race now.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

If i woke up black first thing i would do is measure my dick and see if it grew and inch or 2. Also probably my wife would call the police seeing a stranger on her bed.

If my wife woke up black then, well that would make for a good porn film plot.

Lol yeah, my girl would flip, but a few of my mixed nephews and cousins would be happy. Another bit of color into the family.

 

[Thunderflash500]

What is so amazing about being White? You're not explosive and athletic. You get sunburn if you stay outside too long. I have nothing against White people but White Supremacists who brag about being White don't have any arguments about why others should envy them. They just brag about historical achievements they took no part in. I'll acknowledge one thing, some of your women are really pretty.

How about they created the modern world, everyone copies them. Even in your picture you used a white woman lol. What's wrong with black women homie? There isn't a single stable wealthy black nation that I'm aware of. Individually of course modern whites didn't take part in the building of the ancient world. No shit. But they continue to run the world. We are the ones giving equal rights. We are the ones saying a man should be judged by his character, not by titles, not by skin. We are the ones to end slavery in most the world. We are the ones to liberate the poor. In America you absolutely can be born dirt poor and become middle class or upper class. Go try doing that in China. Go try doing that in the Congo.

Asking what is special about white people lol. CULTURE.

And if you listen to black lives matter white people are essentially gods who are given magical powers, so that's nice too.

Do you think orientals and blacks the same race?

I think race is a loaded word. I don't think it means that much. But I do think there are significant differences between Asians and blacks yes. I believe Asians have the largest cranium, followed by whites.

 

[grimballer]

The proposed "feature matrix" though would disqualify these, no? All three examples would see preclusion by virtue of the geography feature.



Agreed. And is why Vagitarian's thread is neither furthering nor delivering any consensus.



Pardon, LOL? I reckon those people are beautiful souls and almost focussed myself on Arctic Sciences and Eskimology when I was an undergrad. But why is Finnish my mother language? I am Swedish-speaking; like Switzerland, we have more than one official language and with that foster intranational ethnic, lingual differences and cultural nuances.

I left it alone earlier but your comment while trying to prove a point on how a Swede might not view a Finn not blond or surnamed -sson as idiosyncratically "White" is moot; blond and -sson describe my entire neighbourhood. It's a baseless comment on the whole - you are a travel brochure, not a traveller.

The Finnish spirit unites and is unbreakable; IIRC, you proudly stated to be in dismissal of such "nonscientific" things and believe them thus without value, but this is why people like you died within the second week of Winter War; for nothing in the face of mass aggression and extinction is without value. But if statistics and the petri dish are your wine and poetry, then so be it.

You might be young (not a crime and in that certainly no shame); but if the case, you will learn in time that the clipboard and stethoscope tell only so much of man.

You are not from this part of the world, so please take this opportunity to educate yourself because you are at time of writing both arrogant and ignorant. My observation of you being unworldly and ill-learnt in that vein ties into this observation.

If you can agree to disagree, I will oblige. We both have better things to do.

that "swedes not viewing finns as white" comment was just as example to prove a point that clearly flew over your head.

your definition of "white" is neither objective or scientific.

its just your opinion most likely based on some set of neo nazi beliefs.

in other words you werent born with your notion of "white". that view was shaped by your upbringing.

if you were brought up believing white means: fair skin/blonde (straight) hair/blue eyes, than you would view anybody that doesnt posses all 3 of these traits as "nonwhite"

in other words

white

nonwhite

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

How about they created the modern world, everyone copies them. Even in your picture you used a white woman lol. What's wrong with black women homie? There isn't a single stable wealthy black nation that I'm aware of. Individually of course modern whites didn't take part in the building of the ancient world. No shit. But they continue to run the world. We are the ones giving equal rights. We are the ones saying a man should be judged by his character, not by titles, not by skin. We are the ones to end slavery in most the world. We are the ones to liberate the poor. In America you absolutely can be born dirt poor and become middle class or upper class. Go try doing that in China. Go try doing that in the Congo.

Asking what is special about white people lol. CULTURE.

And if you listen to black lives matter white people are essentially gods who are given magical powers, so that's nice too.

Nothing is wrong with Black women. That too was just a joke to anger White Supremacists such as yourself. Like I said there is nothing special about White people that non-Whites ought to envy. You did exactly what I said White Supremacists always do, brag about historical achievements you had nothing to do with. There's no such thing as White culture. There are human cultures. Being White does not mean you belong to a culture. So once again what is so special about being White?

 

[Thunderflash500]

Nothing is wrong with Black women. That too was just a joke to anger White Supremacists such as yourself. Like I said there is nothing special about White people that non-Whites ought to envy. You did exactly what I said White Supremacists always do, brag about historical achievements you had nothing to do with. There's no such thing as White culture. There are human cultures. Being White does not mean you belong to a culture. So once again what is so special about being White?

Ok, then call it European/Germanic culture if it makes you feel better. And I take part in the culture everyday. I add to society, I pay in. I contribute. I don't just take, steal, rob.