International West Bank thread

[filthybliss]

Yeah I totally support an end to the war and stopping all settlement expansion in the West Bank and also treating all Jewish violence in the WB against Palestinians as terror activity.

Your turn -
What should Palestinians do?

Slash the Martyr Fund and return the hostages. Negotiate a 2 state settlement on ‘67 borders. Get a NATO peacekeeping mission like in Kosovo to keep both edges of the border secure.

There are too many settlements to organize land swaps. Just keep it simple and allow for Jewish Settlements to stay in the West Bank but also grant a right of return to Palestinian Refugees to the ‘67 borders.

 

[Anewt]

Settlers beat Palestinian-American to death during attack on village near Ramallah — PA

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www.timesofisrael.com

The man beaten to death was identified as Saif al-Din Musalat from the nearby village of Al-Mazra’a Al-Sharqiya. He is said to have also held American citizenship

An Israeli security official tells Ynet that they are aware of the incident and that troops have been dispatched to the scene to try and restore order.

As is almost always the case in incidents of settler violence, there have been no reported arrests carried out.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Settlers beat Palestinian-American to death during attack on village near Ramallah — PA

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www.timesofisrael.com

The man beaten to death was identified as Saif al-Din Musalat from the nearby village of Al-Mazra’a Al-Sharqiya. He is said to have also held American citizenship

An Israeli security official tells Ynet that they are aware of the incident and that troops have been dispatched to the scene to try and restore order.

As is almost always the case in incidents of settler violence, there have been no reported arrests carried out.

Why are they called "settlers" instead of land thieves or invaders? Their "settlements" are illegal under every international law, perhaps we should stop enabling them with euphemisms.

You settle unclaimed territory. If Mexicans started pouring over the border, building their own houses where they want, and sometimes killing Americans while claiming that the Arizona was promised to them 2000 years ago, we wouldn't call them settlers I don't think.

Slash the Martyr Fund and return the hostages. Negotiate a 2 state settlement on ‘67 borders. Get a NATO peacekeeping mission like in Kosovo to keep both edges of the border secure.

There are too many settlements to organize land swaps. Just keep it simple and allow for Jewish Settlements to stay in the West Bank but also grant a right of return to Palestinian Refugees to the ‘67 borders.

While I agree with your proposed solution, the Israeli public will be the one which stops it, which is probably evident from some of the posters in this thread. A 2011 study found that, because of "security concerns", 77% of Israelis oppose returning to pre-1967 lines, even if it would lead to peace between Israel and neighboring Arab states.

Nah, you will do what you are told to do.

It's hilarious that you still don't understand that your repugnant behavior is the direct cause of people not liking you, you will instead inevitably cry that it is some evil prejudice handed down from the ether.

 

[Anewt]

Why are they called "settlers" instead of land thieves or invaders? Their "settlements" are illegal under every international law, perhaps we should stop enabling them with euphemisms.

You settle unclaimed territory. If Mexicans started pouring over the border, building their own houses where they want, and sometimes killing Americans while claiming that the Arizona was promised to them 2000 years ago, we wouldn't call them settlers I don't think.

Thats a great point actually.... the buggers got me accustomed to using that language

 

[Samjj]

Slash the Martyr Fund and return the hostages. Negotiate a 2 state settlement on ‘67 borders. Get a NATO peacekeeping mission like in Kosovo to keep both edges of the border secure.

There are too many settlements to organize land swaps. Just keep it simple and allow for Jewish Settlements to stay in the West Bank but also grant a right of return to Palestinian Refugees to the ‘67 borders.

If you mean a right of return to the newly formed Palestinian state in this context then this is a reasonable framework. Most Palestinians in the WB today believe that someday the mandate of Palestine will be liberated through violent means and the Jews “will go back to where they came from”, so it will take a bit more work than just slashing the Martyrs’ fund.

I was actually just hoping that Koya would respond to this line of questioning because I have never seen him level any legitimate criticism towards Palestinian leadership in any regard. It always ends up “Hamas are jerks but I support their right to legitimate resistance which is not terrorism”.

 

[Samjj]

Why are they called "settlers" instead of land thieves or invaders? Their "settlements" are illegal under every international law, perhaps we should stop enabling them with euphemisms.

You settle unclaimed territory. If Mexicans started pouring over the border, building their own houses where they want, and sometimes killing Americans while claiming that the Arizona was promised to them 2000 years ago, we wouldn't call them settlers I don't think.

Yeah that war already happened and the U.S. annexed a big chunk of Mexico.
You should probably give Texas back to Mexico, thief!

 

[Koya]

Yeah I totally support an end to the war and stopping all settlement expansion in the West Bank and also treating all Jewish violence in the WB against Palestinians as terror activity.

Your turn -
What should Palestinians do?

You mean what should they do when they are actively being genocided and starved in Gaza and are submitted to daily raids and terror attacks in the west bank ?

Let's say when all that stops and they can breathe we ask them ? Or does it make too much sense ?

 

[Koya]

Israeli settlers kill American-Palestinian visiting relatives in West Bank, says family​

Ambulances were reportedly stopped from reaching Sayfollah Musallet after attack in which another Palestinian man was shot dead

A 20-year-old Palestinian-American was killed by Israeli settlers while visiting relatives in the occupied West Bank, his family have said.

Sayfollah “Saif” Musallet was reportedly beaten by Israeli settlers while he was on his family’s farm in an area near Ramallah. A group then prevented ambulances from reaching Musallet for three hours, according to the family, who said he died of his injuries before reaching hospital.


“I was the first one to reach Saif,” said Mohammed Nael Hijaz, a 22-year-old friend of Musallet. “He was not moving when I got there and he could barely breathe. There was time to save him.”

Another Palestinian man, 23-year-old Razek Hussein al-Shalabi, was fatally shot during the attack and was left to bleed to death, the Palestinian health ministry said. The funeral for both men will be held on Sunday so they can be buried together, according to a cousin of Musallet.

The attacks come amid a wave of increasing Israeli settler violence targeting Palestinians in the West Bank – more than 1,000 Paestinians have been killed and at least 9,000 injured since Hamas militants launched a murderous assault in southern Israel on 7 October 2023.

The Israeli military claimed stones were thrown at Israelis and that “a violent confrontation developed”. It added that it was “aware of reports concerning a Palestinian civilian” and that it was looking into the incident.

A spokesperson for the US Department of State said that it was aware of reports of the death of a US citizen in the West Bank and that it was “ready to provide consular services”, declining to comment further “out of respect for privacy of the family”.

The full article : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...n-visiting-relatives-in-west-bank-says-family

 

[Samjj]

You mean what should they do when they are actively being genocided and starved in Gaza and are submitted to daily raids and terror attacks in the west bank ?

Let's say when all that stops and they can breathe we ask them ? Or does it make too much sense ?

Your mindset as a Palestinian is truly baffling. You can't muster any criticism of your leadership.

 

[filthybliss]

If you mean a right of return to the newly formed Palestinian state in this context then this is a reasonable framework. Most Palestinians in the WB today believe that someday the mandate of Palestine will be liberated through violent means and the Jews “will go back to where they came from”, so it will take a bit more work than just slashing the Martyrs’ fund.

I was actually just hoping that Koya would respond to this line of questioning because I have never seen him level any legitimate criticism towards Palestinian leadership in any regard. It always ends up “Hamas are jerks but I support their right to legitimate resistance which is not terrorism”.

Sure. The Israeli Public believes similarily given that settlements in the West Bank haven’t paused even during the Peace Negotiating Process since 1967.

What the public of each side believe or want is irrelevant. They both would wipe out eachother if given the ability to without repercussions.

 

[Blayt7hh]

This is a twisted take.
More like Jews really don’t want to be subjected to antisemitic violence or subjugation from their highly motivated neighbors.

Hamas still enjoys the majority of public support in the WB and at least a large portion of the population in Gaza remain supportive. What coexistence and feasible integration do you see as possible without blaming Jewish supremacy?

Is that why they steal land from their pacified neighbors? Is that way the Israeli military and government do nothing to stem the abhorrent behavior of the settlers in the West Bank? Just truly abhorrent and unjustifiable.

With the last line I feel like you’re trying to shame me and allude to antisemitism. Please don’t. I don’t hate Jews. You can’t deny that the current government in Israel is strongly Jewish Supremacy right now.

 

[Samjj]

Is that why they steal land from their pacified neighbors? Is that way the Israeli military and government do nothing to stem the abhorrent behavior of the settlers in the West Bank? Just truly abhorrent and unjustifiable.

With the last line I feel like you’re trying to shame me and allude to antisemitism. Please don’t. I don’t hate Jews. You can’t deny that the current government in Israel is strongly Jewish Supremacy right now.

Not alluding to antisemitism here. I haven’t experienced that from you. The Jewish supremacy comment is often hyperbole used vilify Israel in general, and it is certainly misplaced in your usage the context of resistance to a one state solution.

I have zero excuses for settler behavior in the WB and the extremist government who tacitly and explicitly supports Jewish terror. Settlers who attack innocent Palestinians and incite violence are terrorists, without ambiguity.

Calling Palestinians in the WB as ״pacified” is a bit of a stretch as there are constant streams of terror attacks with very active and large cells of Hamas (and sometimes ISIS) affiliated groups. If democratic elections were held tomorrow in the WB, Hamas would win very easily. Not exactly a population ready for integration and peaceful coexistence, right?

 

[Samjj]

Sure. The Israeli Public believes similarily given that settlements in the West Bank haven’t paused even during the Peace Negotiating Process since 1967.

What the public of each side believe or want is irrelevant. They both would wipe out eachother if given the ability to without repercussions.

Certainly the desire of a population for peaceful coexistence or to wage war has bearing on a peace process, no?

 

[Koya]

Your mindset as a Palestinian is truly baffling. You can't muster any criticism of your leadership.

How a comment saying :

"let's ask Palestinians the next step once israel stops the mass killings and starving in Gaza and stops supporting daily stealing of land in the west bank"

Means "I can't accept any criticisms" in your eyes ??

So sick of you gaslighting everyone at every turn

Also for the tenth time : because I speak Arabic doesn't mean I am Palestinian. Try to put it in your head for once. I know you fantasm about my ethnic background like a stalker but that's none of your business.

 

[Samjj]

How a comment saying :

"let's ask Palestinians the next step once israel stops the mass killings and starving in Gaza and stops supporting daily stealing of land in the west bank"

Means "I can't accept any criticisms" in your eyes ??

So sick of you gaslighting everyone at every turn

Also for the tenth time : because I speak Arabic doesn't mean I am Palestinian. Try to put it in your head for once. I know you fantasm about my ethnic background like a stalker but that's none of your business.

You previously made comments in the vein of “inshallah, we won’t forget what is being done to us!” when screaming about the war in Gaza.

If the usage of “us” here was meant to invoke Pan-Arab identity or the global Muslim-Uma, and not Palestinian identity- I think this is a forgivable misunderstanding on my part.

Given how crazed and emotional you were when you were previously banned and had received recommendations from other posters to take a break, I thought that your close family maybe had been affected by the war and truly felt sympathy for your pain.

 

[Samjj]

Also for the tenth time : because I speak Arabic doesn't mean I am Palestinian. Try to put it in your head for once. I know you fantasm about my ethnic background like a stalker but that's none of your business.

I am bad at inserting quotes, but it certainly appears here that you are identifying as a Palestinian.

This thread is a waste of time. I'm out of it. It's human beings with a heart vs psychopaths who advocate for genocide and ethnic cleansing and excuse everything in the name of their colonialist country that they believe is a God given right according to their religious book.

They excuse murder of 33K people, 14K children, 9K women, destruction of 400 schools including all the universities, destruction of water wells, disablement of more than 20 hospitals, destruction from ground to top of the biggest hospital in the north, mass torture of civilian on concentration camps, starving of 1.1 Million people, babies dying of starvation, people boiling tree leaves to eat them, 2000lb bombs dropped on residential areas, mass killing of starving civilians that gather for bread, killing of human aid workers, displacement of millions of people then bombing them in the safe areas and so many, use of AI to drop 600 bombs a day, killing of more 100 persons a day not counting the wounded or disappeared, blocking humanitarian aid and so many other

Oh and we'll write children chorus song and top chart pop songs about your suffering and consume the images of the concentration camps as entertainment on our Israeli TV channels

All is good in the name of Israel. Palestinians aren't humans they must be exterminated they're just pests, please Americans obey to us and fund us and support us or we will threaten you with antisemitism.

also we have a firm grip on your country through AIPAC, dozens of paid senators, control of the mainstream media and Hollywood. We are ready to destroy your international credibility oh America if you don't obey the great Israel, we attacked our previous patron the UK when they didn't obey, obey us or if we go down you go down too. You're too stupid to open your eyes anyway.

F all the psychopaths here, seriously may your eyes never find rest. May your eyes never find rest. May your eyes never find rest.

We are not forgetting how you genocided us in international apathy but with their help, never will we inshallah

 

[Koya]

I am bad at inserting quotes, but it certainly appears here that you are identifying as a Palestinian.

Talk about stalking. Digging up April 2024 quotes. It's been 15 months dude. 15 months and you keep thinking about me.

I'll just keep on the subject of the thread. If you want to detail the thread and redirect it, feel free to do without me.

I don't have to share my ethnic background to you. I honestly do feel stalked lol. Freakin weird dude. You do you.

 

[Koya]

Settlers attack on Palestians in Hebron, July 8th 2025

 

[Samjj]

Talk about stalking. Digging up April 2024 quotes. It's been 15 months dude. 15 months and you keep thinking about me.

I'll just keep on the subject of the thread. If you want to detail the thread and redirect it, feel free to do without me.

I don't have to share my ethnic background to you. I honestly do feel stalked lol. Freakin weird dude. You do you.

Lmao you tried gas lighting and failed. Keep doing your thing.

Obviously being Palestinian has to do with you making a thread dedicated to the plight of the Palestinians.

Similarly you accuse everyone who is an Israel supporter of being an Israeli-American, you can stuff it and stop crying.

Your comment about "still thinking" about you is fucking retarded, as you are the most active and clearly most obsessed poster in all of the subject of I/P with daily shit posting on here.

Sorry I blew your cover as a Palestinian, as it is clearly an attempt at more persuasive narrative for your political cause to be an empathetic humanitarian with no skin in the game than to own your identity.

 

[TeTe]

Settlers attack on Palestians in Hebron, July 8th 2025

I saw where an American was killed

Guess that means we need to bomb Israel.