Weight Divisions from Most Stacked To Least?

ufcfan1986 said:
Agreed about the flyweights. It just seems like there's Mighty Mouse and there there's everyone else.

A bit surprised the welterweights are ranking so high in this. With things like Henridcks being ranked so high and being such a sloppy fighter (which even he admits). Then again that has more to do with UFC's messed up and illogical ranking system rather than a reflection of the overall division.
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Look at the guys who aren't even top 15-20.

Thatch, Erick Silva, Mein, Lim, Larkin, Pierce, Magny, wonderboy, Hathaway, warley alves and now bendo.

No other division comes close to that level of depth.
 
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RowdyP4PGOAT said:
People still saying heavyweight is the weakest division are wrong. It's actually a pretty fun division right now
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Half of the current top 15 were top 10 fighters 10 years ago.
34% of the division is over the age of 35.
That means in a few years 1/3 of that division will most likely retire.
... That isn't good.


I think everybody can agree that FW, LW, and WW are all very deep divisions with strong young talent.
 
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If we're talking about relative skill, then how is it even possible that anyone could put WBW above HW? Sure, many of the HWs are just fat guys with almost no cardio and overall a limited skill set. Looking at the top 1-5, you should however realize that they are very skilled fighters in some/several areas. Cain - great at everything. JDS - terrific boxer. Werdum - BJJ. Hunt - kickboxing. And what do we have in the WBW division besides Ronda? Cat Zingano and her JJ that is on par with Werdum? Miesha Tate and her ...? McMann and her wrasslin compared to the depth of skill that Velasquez possesses? Give me a break. WBW is just so ridiculously thin and Ronda is a million times more skilled than the rest of the WBW fighters.
 
HW is by far the worst division. I sometimes feel bad about watching some of the match ups.
 
spid3yo said:
Pretty fun division if you are into fat old guys with no chins or cardio. It's the division that requires the least amount of actual MMA skill. Combine that with how shallow it is, easy choice for least stacked division in the UFC.
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Cardio isn't even an 'actual MMA skill' but a basic requisite for an athlete, and probably not even half the top 10 even have that for a full round.

"b..but...they're so big they don't need cardio" :rolleyes:
 
LW
WW
MW
LHW
HW

The MMA perfect five core weight classes FFS.

No excuse for male MMA under 155 (Add top FW, BW & FTW UFC roster fighters back to 155 where they belong and it isn't close.

Anyone that posts that either female MMA division is "deep" is a UFC shill and go F off with this rotten stinkin lyin B.S.

There is NO F'ing depth in WMMA F'ing PERIOD.

A holes one and all that act like either UFC WMMA divisions are deeper than UFC HW!

M.F. Sherdog has become a complete and total laugh!
 
daniel san said:
If we're talking about relative skill, then how is it even possible that anyone could put WBW above HW? Sure, many of the HWs are just fat guys with almost no cardio and overall a limited skill set. Looking at the top 1-5, you should however realize that they are very skilled fighters in some/several areas. Cain - great at everything. JDS - terrific boxer. Werdum - BJJ. Hunt - kickboxing. And what do we have in the WBW division besides Ronda? Cat Zingano and her JJ that is on par with Werdum? Miesha Tate and her ...? McMann and her wrasslin compared to the depth of skill that Velasquez possesses? Give me a break. WBW is just so ridiculously thin and Ronda is a million times more skilled than the rest of the WBW fighters.
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A lot of truth in this post. The fact that Bethe Correia is even getting a title fight shows how weak the division is. Correia will only be having her fourth UFC fight. The first three were hardly that impressive. She got two decision wins (one being split decision) and the only reason she got a TKO in her last fight is she was up against Shayna "The Punching Bag" Baszler.

Now compare that to her equivalent in the HW divsion, Fabricio Werdum. The skill level isn't even close.
 
Stacked:
LW
FW

Strong:
WW
MW

Top heavy:
LHW
FLW
BW

Weak:
HW
WBW
WSW
 
Xuh said:
Cardio isn't even an 'actual MMA skill' but a basic requisite for an athlete, and probably not even half the top 10 even have that for a full round.

"b..but...they're so big they don't need cardio" :rolleyes:
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to be fair, even an extremely gassed Roy Nelson could knock out most people with one punch. It's just that his odds of landing that punch decrease as he slows down.
 
HW is so shallow that it lacks top contenders despite an extremely slow rate of title fights.
 
For what it's worth, here are the number of UFC fighters in each division according to Wikipedia:

HW: 34
LHW: 31
MW: 68
WW: 102
LW: 107
FW: 73
BW: 53
FLW: 42

Womens BW: 29
Womens SW: 23

Although its not exactly direct evidence of how stacked a given division is, the numbers seem to coincide pretty closely with the consensus view on which divisions are shit. The most shocking thing to me is that LHW has the fewest fighters of any men's weight class, despite historically being the sport's glamor division.

One other thing about LHW, beyond just losing Machida and Mousasi, there's also guys like Vitor, Bisping, Boetsch, Wand, Te Huna, Larkin, and others who have dropped down at one time or another. That's a lot of name value being lost, even if they're not all belt-worthy. And you really can't build a "stacked" division, without having at least some degree of depth to build those names up at the top.
 
screaminleeman said:
LW
WW
MW
LHW
HW

The MMA perfect five core weight classes FFS.

No excuse for male MMA under 155 (Add top FW, BW & FTW UFC roster fighters back to 155 where they belong and it isn't close.

Anyone that posts that either female MMA division is "deep" is a UFC shill and go F off with this rotten stinkin lyin B.S.

There is NO F'ing depth in WMMA F'ing PERIOD.

A holes one and all that act like either UFC WMMA divisions are deeper than UFC HW!

M.F. Sherdog has become a complete and total laugh!
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the only thing here making me laugh is you putting the HW division above any division.

by far the weakest division of all time.

its what makes people who say Fedor is/was Goat laughable.

the WSW division is new to the UFC but has been around for a few years.

Now compare the skill lvl of #6-20 fighters in there 2 division.

and the HW division has been around for frickn 30+ years.
 
Sherm said:
The most shocking thing to me is that LHW has the fewest fighters of any men's weight class, despite historically being the sport's glamor division.

One other thing about LHW, beyond just losing Machida and Mousasi, there's also guys like Vitor, Bisping, Boetsch, Wand, Te Huna, Larkin, and others who have dropped down at one time or another. That's a lot of name value being lost, even if they're not all belt-worthy. And you really can't build a "stacked" division, without having at least some degree of depth to build those names up at the top.
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LHW has gone downhill quite a lot since Jones took over.
He literally got the entire division to drop down to MW, or off to Bellator.

LHW is definitely not what it once was.
 
PokerMage said:
the only thing here making me laugh is you putting the HW division above any division.

by far the weakest division of all time.

its what makes people who say Fedor is/was Goat laughable.

the WSW division is new to the UFC but has been around for a few years.

Now compare the skill lvl of #6-20 fighters in there 2 division.

and the HW division has been around for frickn 30+ years.
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Well, the quote you posted has me putting the HW division as the LEAST STACKED below all other divisions.

I honestly thought most were listing "top to bottom" "most to least" stacked, which I followed.

My HW at the bottom of my list denoted LEAST stacked.

Sorry for the confusion sir!:redface:
 
screaminleeman said:
Well, the quote you posted has me putting the HW division as the LEAST STACKED below all other divisions.

I honestly thought most were listing "top to bottom" "most to least" stacked, which I followed.

My HW at the bottom of my list denoted LEAST stacked.

Sorry for the confusion sir!:redface:
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well when you leave out 5 division out of you list, your implying that they arnt even worth putting below HW on your list.

its cool if you dont like WMMA or below Men's LW, that is your prerogative but objectively speaking, i just cant see HW above any division.

now i left a few divisions out of my list also, but i gave what i thought were the top3 and the lowest so there was no confusion.

and no worries, just tryin get the discussion goin.
 
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