Was Frank Mir right about flyweights?

I'm still having a hard time getting interested in flyweight and BW fights.

I guess because I have a hard time imagining them in any other sport. I could imagine guys like GSP as hockey or baseball players.

Also, those divisions seem to be filled with guys who dropped down from higher weight classes.
 
JayElectra said:
It's an assumption based on anecdotal evidence and the rate of obesity in North America. I was being generous, too. Your "average" 220 pound male probably struggles to break 7:30.
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although this has nothing to do with the thread, i am pretty sure that the 'average' 220 lbs struggles to break a nine minute mile. no way does the average joe hit 7:30.

Also, back to the ts, i think Mir is right. Most big guys (especially meat heads) think they would wreck the lower weight class mma fighters. Just comes from ignorance. they have no concept of how good these people actually are.

I guess an example would be the non weightlifter who says he can squat 300lbs when he actually has no clue how much that is or the non runner who thinks he can run a mile and a half in under 12 min but has no clue how fast that is for a non runner.
 
The only way to let people know that a FW could own any regular dude is by making it happen. Bring back some super hulk matches from the pride days- big as you like Tapout shirter vs Mighty Rat (no longer a mouse after his cool KO)!!
 
Some interesting responses. it's weird... the lighter weight classes just dont have the same appeal as the heavier ones. For what it's worth, my dad watched yesterdays title fight - all he had to say post-fight was "I don't like watching these little blokes run around. Now if that Mark Hunt guy was fighting the entire division at the same time, then i'd be interested"

haha how can you not love that!
 
The fact that people refer to so many fighters as "the flyweights" or "the lighter weight classes" only illustrates how bad the UFC is at promoting fighters.
 
countswagula said:
Yeah, no wonder De La Hoya, Mayweather and Nonito Donaire were obscure niche athletes while the Klitschko bros were making bank
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Wladimir Klitschko is worth 30 million dollars, at least. Mayweather and Oscar are worth more, yes. Donaire? Not even close. Weird amalgam of names to throw out, really.
 
Lucifer Alpha said:
The fact that people refer to so many fighters as "the flyweights" or "the lighter weight classes" only shows how bad the UFC is at promoting fighters.
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They have only had the divisions for a VERY short time and has no big names or personalities, though Faber is apparently biggest star UNDER 170 (says Ariel).
 
surgeyou1 said:
I dont know...I think a guy like LeBron or JJ Watt could probably take a flyweight
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How can you punch a guy that moves that fast? You just can't catch him.
And no matter how smaller he is, he can hurt you badly with one strike. There is no comparison between a world class fighter and an untrained person who isn't used to get hit, man.
 
Bojka said:
I'm still having a hard time getting interested in flyweight and BW fights.

I guess because I have a hard time imagining them in any other sport. I could imagine guys like GSP as hockey or baseball players.

Also, those divisions seem to be filled with guys who dropped down from higher weight classes.
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And what sports would Mark Hunt be playing? Or Kimbo Slice? Or Big Nog?

MM is athletic enough to do gymnastics in the Olympics probably if he trained. You can't say that about a lot of heavyweight fighters.
 
Because its like watching middle schoolers fight in most people's eyes.

I think 155 is about as small as the average meat head can muster to watch and even that might be a stretch.

If you watch a fight at a bar, watch what other people are doing , if 170 or higher isn't on most people aren't paying attention
 
surgeyou1 said:
I dont know...I think a guy like LeBron or JJ Watt could probably take a flyweight
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JJ Watt probably.

Lebron James is soft as hell. This is a guy that flops to the ground when someone hits him in the jaw.
 
Mir is right. The lower weight classes get disrespected for that very reason.
 
Flyweights could probably beat up most ordinary men. But the perception is that a big guy will assume MM couldn't reach his chin six feet up or get a takedown, therefore they're less excited about watching small guys fight.

It's the same argument thrown at 155 back in the day. Guys were too small, not enough depth, I could beat them up, etc. Over time the depth and talent will emerge, so we just have to be patient.

The same thing will come up if Zuffa does a 115 division.
 
nightfx said:
flyweights would wreck any untrained man regardless of their size
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Probably true but that isn't really the point. The point is that the average 220 pound guy is still likely to think that and that would influence his interest. Whether or not he's right is irrelevant.
 
He has a point, but they can catch on. Floyd and Pacquiao(and DLH) are all small dudes and they are the biggest in boxing.
 
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