Was Antonina the biggest letdown in WMMA?

[aerius]

I still don't understand a thing. When I watch ONE female fights there is a level of ferocity I don't often see in the UFC and I wonder if I don't understand fighting or they have better fighters.

ONE Championship has a rule set and scoring system that encourages fighters to stand and bang. Fighters have a big incentive to go for finishes and have exciting fights.

 

[Lawrence]

I wholly agree with that about One.
Must be the diet. .

The diet?

If you are serious I don't understand.

If you are joking, it flew right over my head...

 

[Neck&Neck]

Germaine

 

[Lee Danger]

Jamahal Hill and his brother
(Well, could say Nick and Nate Diaz, not champ material, but very popular)

Nogueira bros, Rua bros, Emelianenko bros... Big Nog, Shogun and Fedor were all 1st in the world rankings at some point and their brothers were among the elite of their division.

 

[T-dog.1337]

I was always hot for Val but never saw much of her sister. When she came into the UFC, some of the beta threads were absurd and hardcore WMMA followers were hyping her up as much as her sister.

She came in looking mid as f and disappeared into the clouds (piloting now, I do believe).

Whilst WMMA has very few true brilliant fighters, on a scale of 1 to 2, how disappointed were you and were you invested in her?

wmma is so predictable

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Aspen Ladd

I thought Aspen Ladd was gonna be the one to dethrone Amanda Nunes lmao

 

[Goat Poster]

This is the biggest letdown in MMA. So much potential

686 × 386

 

[Ares Black]

wmma is so predictable

How so?

 

[Pepy]

She’s a natural FLW, and was clearly too small to fight at BW. Especially someone like Miesha Tate. Who was number 2 in the world. Even against Smith, who is 5’9”, compared to Rin who is 5’1”. She never had a chance. She had a very short reach, as well.

Those are still the only 2 fights Rin ever lost. Yet it should have been clear her muscles would not help with cardio. And if you look at Rin’s career there are loads of fights on there that weren’t even 3, 5 minute rounds. 2 round fights. 3, 3 minute rounds, etc.

I always thought they should have brought her back when they made the 125 division.

I can’t agree with her as your choice, considering I know, and remember important facts.

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[Lycandroid]

every time wmma makes it to the main card, collectively that is the biggest letdown in wmma

 

[FilipEmoFights]

The biggest letdown in MMA is that it somehow managed to get into the UFC.

I’d be stoked if there were a separate WUFC “DoubleUFC” for the women so we could keep the cards separated and still have these chicks competing in the UFC banner but without poisoning the cards

I tend to also think having a woman as a training partner doesn’t do much for male MMA fighters as they pretty much take up space in the gym and you have to tone down your intensity pretty significantly if you spar or roll with them

 

[BangBang]

I don't recall any high expectations. It was more like "Oh, Val's sister, lets see how good she is" then you saw her fight once and learned that she wasn't that good.

She didn't have Val's man strength, being more lanky.

Still, she's an accomplished person by all accounts!

 

[usernamee]

She didn't have Val's man strength, being more lanky.

Still, she's an accomplished person by all accounts!

She doesn't have nearly as good grappling and she isn't as technically sound with the striking as Val is either although the latter is more due to Val being fucking phenomenal in the striking.

 

[Daniel_LaRusso]

More recently, Danyelle Wolf.

 

[TITS]

Valerie Loureda

She was hyped entirely because of her ass, not her fighting ability.

Lola Vice - Wikipedia

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[TheMMAnalyst]

Forgive me for being an optimist

Optimistic or Horny?

She improved her takedown defense somewhat, but it’s still proven that if you consistently threaten she wilts and breaks down.

Still a babe though (and not just by MMA standards).

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Optimistic or Horny?

She improved her takedown defense somewhat, but it’s still proven that if you consistently threaten she wilts and breaks down.

The fact that she has improved means that she can learn and get even better

 

[davidlemonparty]

Antonina is 40 now and was already 34 when she made her UFC debut. Did you really expect that much from her on name alone? Most fighting siblings have the good one and the mediocre one.

Except the Diaz bros.
Two super stars

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

The fact that she has improved means that she can learn and get even better

Lipski/da Silva is 31, has had 27 MMA fights, and is 12 years into her career.

She's had 13 UFC fights over the course of 6 years and is 6-7 and she has almost always lost in the exact same way (gets pressured and gives up takedown, gasses hard because she doesn't have great technique and relies on athleticism).

Most fighters typically start to peak around years 7-8 and after they don't really gain many new skills or greatly improve their game, they just refine what they have (and learn to paper over the cracks/holes better). Gaining high-level skills in areas of weakness later in your career when you didn't dedicate yourself early to building that base is incredibly difficult, no matter how athletic you are it's about time, reps, drilling, etc.

I rarely see elite male fighters getting tremendously better at striking or wrestling or grappling 10+ years into their fighting career, though there are a few (i.e. Islam at striking); I don't think I've ever seen it happen in any female fighter I can think of.

Not saying it can't happen, but I doubt she is going to be the one to break the mold based on historical precedent and her game/skills/demeanor.

But hey....

 

[BabyBlue_Bomber]

Sabina Mazo holds that honor, for me…