War Room OT Discussion v4

[waiguoren]

Not at all. Your insistence that Nunes is acting out of genuine concern about FBI bias against Trump rather than out of an obvious attempt to discredit the investigation against him is suggestive of extreme tribalism. I don't buy for a minute that you even believe your own line here--you're just saying it to show your loyalty.

Jack, you're well aware I never wrote that.

Why would you think it's interesting for me to debate with someone who consistently mischaracterizes my arguments? It's quite boring.

 

[HomerThompson]

That's simply wrong. And you're denying that an obvious partisan issue is what it is for tribalist reasons, as you know.



Not at all. Your insistence that Nunes is acting out of genuine concern about FBI bias against Trump rather than out of an obvious attempt to discredit the investigation against him is suggestive of extreme tribalism. I don't buy for a minute that you even believe your own line here--you're just saying it to show your loyalty.

Why are you still taking this guy seriously?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Jack, you're well aware I never wrote that.

Why would you think it's interesting for me to debate with someone who consistently mischaracterizes my arguments? It's quite boring.

You keep playing this game of saying something then saying it's not what you said then refusing to clarify. Seems like trollery. Is the memo a partisan attempt to discredit a legitimate investigation with vague insinuations or is it something else? If something else, what?

Why are you still taking this guy seriously?

IMO, he's one of the best of his type here. If you have to choose going back and forth with him or Seano, geese, TCK, LI, GSM, Heretic, second sight, etc., it's him. You can choose not to do it with anyone, but what are we left with? Who are the smart right-wingers here? The Great A is OK, too. But it's pretty slim pickings, generally.

 

[Trotsky]

Magically turns into a villain? He was always a "villain". He was just a villain you rooted for, up until the end, which was by design.

Spoiler

Only thing I'd say that the final season was lacking in, was a central antagonist. The show certainly lost some magic after Gus bit the dust. The first four seasons were this methodical build up of Walt's place in the drug empire, and then once he wins the war and takes over, they just kind of shoehorned some white supremacist group in there to make up for Gus' absence. Although, that season was more focused on Walt's downfall and didn't really need a big bad, because Walt was the big bad.

You don't think there was a clear difference between Walt in S4E13 and S5S2? He became a cartoon character in two episodes

 

[HereticBD]

You don't think there was a clear difference between Walt in S4E13 and S5S2? He became a cartoon character in two episodes

You'll have to give me some specifics as to what you're referring to.

 

[Gregolian]

IMO, he's one of the best of his type here. If you have to choose going back and forth with him or Seano, geese, TCK, LI, GSM, Heretic, second sight, etc., it's him. You can choose not to do it with anyone, but what are we left with? Who are the smart right-wingers here? The Great A is OK, too. But it's pretty slim pickings, generally.

 

[Fawlty]

Greg you heart melting son of a bitch

 

[Trotsky]

IMO, he's one of the best of his type here. If you have to choose going back and forth with him or Seano, geese, TCK, LI, GSM, Heretic, second sight, etc., it's him. You can choose not to do it with anyone, but what are we left with? Who are the smart right-wingers here? The Great A is OK, too. But it's pretty slim pickings, generally.

Logical Insanity is a considerably more rational person/better poster than the rest of those persons with whom you grouped him. Geese, Contradictor, TCK, and GearMedalSolid represent the real intellectual basement here and are far worse than tribalists like Heretic or racists like second sight.

Of that group, I honestly suspect that one has a mental illness and another has a serious learning impairment.

 

[HomerThompson]

You keep playing this game of saying something then saying it's not what you said then refusing to clarify. Seems like trollery. Is the memo a partisan attempt to discredit a legitimate investigation with vague insinuations or is it something else? If something else, what?



IMO, he's one of the best of his type here. If you have to choose going back and forth with him or Seano, geese, TCK, LI, GSM, Heretic, second sight, etc., it's him. You can choose not to do it with anyone, but what are we left with? Who are the smart right-wingers here? The Great A is OK, too. But it's pretty slim pickings, generally.

@Madmick is better than those guys. He hasn't posted much lately though. I agree that @TheGreatA can form coherent sentences.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Logical Insanity is a considerably more rational person/better poster than the rest of those persons with whom you grouped him. Geese, Contradictor, TCK, and GearMedalSolid represent the real intellectual basement here and are far worse than tribalists like Heretic or racists like second sight.

Of that group, I honestly suspect that one has a mental illness and another has a serious learning impairment.

LI seems like the worst of the bunch, to be honest. Angry, unintelligent dude, whose main contribution to the group is randomly calling everyone a racist and a liar. Used to be the dumbest lefty here.

@Madmick is better than those guys. He hasn't posted much lately though. I agree that @TheGreatA can form coherent sentences.

Yeah, Mick's OK. Could have named some others, but the basic point is that I engage with wai because he's top tier among the right-wingers here.

Didn't recognize you as a righty. You're cool either way, though.

 

[Gregolian]

So I said fuckit and restarted The Wire 3 days after finishing it....

Bubbles and Bunk P4P greatest characters with Lester a close second. The fat fuck seargeant that is always reading porn is up there too

 

[Final Rehab]

Logical Insanity is a considerably more rational person/better poster than the rest of those persons with whom you grouped him. Geese, Contradictor, TCK, and GearMedalSolid represent the real intellectual basement here and are far worse than tribalists like Heretic or racists like second sight.

Of that group, I honestly suspect that one has a mental illness and another has a serious learning impairment.

Yeah I still wonder which ones of that group are crazy and which ones are just impaired.

LI seems like the worst of the bunch, to be honest. Angry, unintelligent dude, whose main contribution to the group is randomly calling everyone a racist and a liar. Used to be the dumbest lefty here.

Thanks I've been wondering if I misremembered him as being a lefty in the past. As to him being dumb, it depends on your standard. Are we talking public school here?

 

[JonesBones]

I would lol if one of these guys accused of sex crimes just said, "Fuck off, it's my prerogative". Where has everyone's prerogative gone?



Get busy
Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me (Now now)
Why don't they just let me live (Oh oh oh)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (Oh)
That's my prerogative

They say I'm crazy
I really don't care
That's my prerogative
They say I'm nasty
But I don't give a damn
Gettin' girls is how I live

Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live (Tell me why)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (Oh)
That's my prerogative
It's my prerogative (It's my prerogative)

It's the way that I wanna live (It's my prerogative)
I can do just what I feel (It's my prerogative)
No one can tell me what to do (It's my prerogative)
Cause what I'm doin'
I'm doin' for you

What is this a bizzit that I can't have money in my pocket
And people not talk about me
This world is a trip, I don't know what's going on these days
Got this person over here talking about me, this person
Hey, listen, lemme tell you something
This is my prerogative, I can do what I want to do

I made this money, you didn't
Right Ted?
We outta here

 

[JonesBones]

 

[Trotsky]

LI seems like the worst of the bunch, to be honest. Angry, unintelligent dude, whose main contribution to the group is randomly calling everyone a racist and a liar. Used to be the dumbest lefty here.

Whoa, I don't agree and think you might have had some posters here on your ignore list too long to remember how shit they are. On top of the guys already mentioned, there are others like ShadowRun, cincymma79, Palis, lfd311, and probably 8-10 others who are all far, far worse than him.

For the record, re: no intelligent right-wingers here, I happen to consider myself very capable, and I am a neocon.

 

[HomerThompson]

Whoa, I don't agree and think you might have had some posters here on your ignore list too long to remember how shit they are. On top of the guys already mentioned, there are others like ShadowRun, cincymma79, Palis, lfd311, and probably 8-10 others who are all far, far worse than him.

For the record, re: no intelligent right-wingers here, I happen to consider myself very capable, and I am a neocon.

I knew @SBJJ was right all along!

 

[Fawlty]

Then very few people have any business trying to achieve greatness. Who is worthy by that standard? You have to be Christopher fucking Hitchens to qualify, or I want you to fuck right off. Hegel was such a pretentious cocksmoker sometimes. He wants us to grant that works of art are a creation of spirit, proceeding from a divine impulse, in order for us to reconcile the need for art. No. Bad German. No cookie. No holy war on art.

 

[JonesBones]

Then very few people have any business trying to achieve greatness. Who is worthy by that standard? You have to be Christopher fucking Hitchens to qualify, or I want you to fuck right off. Hegel was such a pretentious cocksmoker sometimes. He wants us to grant that works of art are a creation of spirit, proceeding from a divine impulse, in order for us to reconcile the need for art. No. Bad German. No cookie.

Exactly. We need people like Hitchens. He was a one man army. I would be as mad and dismissive as him too. And if people say I am getting upset or angry I would say my anger is proportionate to the situation. Everybody should be that angry. I mean, people think Trump is rough? lol. His insults are schoolyard. I would go off like a rabid dog. They deserve it. This is the level this situation deserves. It is serious shit. It isn't a joke. We need to make the emotional tone proper. Like Bernie Sanders. What people have done to this country should be shouted down and given no respect. Bernie wont get rough with people. You should hear what Hitchens said about Hilary. That is mean. lol. He wont give her respect, he will give her fury. Which she deserves.

Bill Maher needs a crowd behind him. Hitchens shines against the crowd. Maher fades without it.

Btw Marx said same thing as Hegel and was influenced by Hegel.

Hitchens and I go in to flatten people. I am gonna knock you out. My mother taught me to knock people like you the fuck out. Crooked people I mean. Malcolm X is another ruthless person I love.

 

[Fawlty]

Exactly. We need people like Hitchens. He was a one man army. I would be as mad and dismissive as him too. And if people say I am getting upset or angry I would say my anger is proportionate to the situation. Everybody should be that angry. I mean, people think Trump is rough? lol. His insults are schoolyard.

Bill Maher needs a crowd behind him. Hitchens shines against the crowd. Maher fades without it.

Btw Marx said same thing as Hegel and was influenced by Hegel.

Hegel is alright sometimes, I just really despise his fundamental ideas about art, because he was way too smart to fall for something as ridiculous as divinity.

We can't all be Hitchens, but every other uneducated fuck on the internet thinks they are. They won't listen to the boring stuff that they are supposed to already know, and go straight to being these godawful contrarians who don't even know what they're disagreeing with. I was reading some of Hegel's ideas & criticisms about education, and it could have been written yesterday. His ideas are a bit all over the place though.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Thanks I've been wondering if I misremembered him as being a lefty in the past. As to him being dumb, it depends on your standard. Are we talking public school here?

Sub-normal for the general population. Used to have endless, low-level arguments with TCK, then he started battling Nicky over Travon Martin (LI being very anti-Martin) and going up the border of explicit racism in the process. Then he was deeply offended about opposition to biased and authoritarian policing in Ferguson. Then it was a short step to total troll angry troll territory. Not sure what @Trotsky is thinking, but he's a bottom-tier poster. Doesn't even insult entertainingly. Just cunt this and fuck that, etc.