War Room OT Discussion v3

[Unknown Pleasures]

I'm going check that book out , those guys were great fighters, great days for boxing , going to watch those fights with my son one of these days.

Yeah, it's a decent read. I use to be a hardcore boxing fan, even worked in the business at one time. The dark side of those rivalries is you can sense the downfall of boxing emanating from that series, as star power really took over, and Leonard used his popularity twice to get the leg up on Hagler and Duran.

Leonard - Duran 1 has never been matched since in terms of skill on display in boxing in one ring.
Hagler - Hearns is up there for greatest short fight of all time.
Leonard - Hagler for most controversial decisions of all time.
Duran- Hearns for crazy KO.

The other not so good part is Hearns, Leonard, and Hagler were predominant fighters of the 80s and Duran a fighter of the 70s. The age and weight difference were severe handicaps for Duran. Duran is clearly more of an all-time great than the others but had the worst head to head record of them all. Timing in boxing is everything, and Duran among the casuals didn't get his due given these high profile fights were when he was most past it in terms of time, and smallest in terms of size, and the no mas debacle. All things considered he truly was the best of them. Worse yet he was marketed as the "brawler" when he fought Leonard to sell the fight, which the casuals ate up; a completely idiotic label.

Videos like this do justice to the immense brilliance of his technique. The "little" things he does that go unnoticed by casual fans is off the charts. The way he did them so naturally and effortlessly is truly a testament to greatness.

 

[unimackpass]

Lol. No doubt

I'll never understand how Rational is not banned

Ripskater was completely harmless by comparison. Doesn't have anything to do with .....ah, never mind.

 

[Ruprecht]

Ripskater was completely harmless by comparison. Doesn't have anything to do with .....ah, never mind.

Ripskater wouldn't have been banned if he hadn't requested it.

 

[unimackpass]

Ripskater wouldn't have been banned if he hadn't requested it.

But he was harassed and constantly reoported by the rat pack and got a double yellow for one post so he realized he might as well move on. The wonder posters give way more leeway to rational. Doesn't seem rational, hm. One guess on that one.

 

[Ruprecht]

But he was harassed and constantly reoported by the rat pack and got a double yellow for one post so he realized he might as well move on. The wonder posters give way more leeway to rational. Doesn't seem rational, hm. One guess on that one.

He was harassed for what he said were his beliefs (that's the norm for the War Room), but he wasn't getting constantly reported.
Neither was he given dubs (there was a glitch with his account mind you, which had him with permanent infraction points for nothing. Admins were looking into it and Rip had been told).
Posts/videos advocating political violence are usually going to get infractions.

 

[unimackpass]

He was harassed for what he said were his beliefs (that's the norm for the War Room), but he wasn't getting constantly reported.
Neither was he given dubs (there was a glitch with his account mind you, which had him with permanent infraction points for nothing. Admins were looking into it and Rip had been told).
Posts/videos advocating political violence are usually going to get infractions.

I know we've bin all through this before but homer was accusing him of having a false account complaining about him big time. Then complained about that video he posted where someone that got bumped by a car that was rated-pg at most. Advocating political violence? Really? Then homer mocks people for praying right after getting massacred in church while people were still feeling sick to there stomach over it and you think he gets even a little flack for it? Don't even have to guess on that one. Oh ya, this is just a great place to hangout.

 

[Ruprecht]

I know we've bin all through this before but homer was accusing him of having a false account complaining about him big time. Then complained about that video he posted where someone that got bumped by a car that was rated-pg at most. Advocating political violence? Really? Then homer mocks people for praying right after getting massacred in church while people were still feeling sick to there stomach over it and you think he gets even a little flack for it. Don't even have to guess on that one. Oh ya, this is just a great place to hangout.

Yes, posting gifs of people being run over in the context of a thread about antifa is advocating political violence.
If you were foolish enough to believe Homer's WR election narrative, that's on you. Homer's certainly gotten his share of infractions from me.

 

[unimackpass]

Yes, posting gifs of people being run over in the context of a thread about antifa is advocating political violence.
If you were foolish enough to believe Homer's WR election narrative, that's on you.

I've known people like him and just because you haven't that's on you. His post about a large grasshopper being a sign of the end times is not unusual in some of these fundamentalist communities.
I've worked and lived in a community with people that had more of a fundamentalist bend than rip by far. You should try the King James Only boys. Rip would get kicked out for being to liberal.
Rip was a John MacArthur follower and the rhetoric he came up with fit that bill. I live in America and know what what American fundamentalism is about first hand. I don't like it but I understand it.
I'm glad he moved on for his own sake. He comes from a closed loop system and has no idea how to communicate what he believes to those outside his subculture. The more he listens to MacArthur the bigger the gap.

 

[Ruprecht]

I've known people like him and just because you haven't that's on you. His post about a large grasshopper being a sign of the end times is not unusual in some of these fundamentalist communities.
I've worked and lived in a community with people that had more of a fundamentalist bend than rip by far. You should try the King James Only boys. Rip would get kicked out for being to liberal.
Rip was a John MacArthur follower and the rhetoric he came up with fit that bill. I live in America and know what what American fundamentalism is about first hand. I don't like it but I understand it.
I'm glad he moved on for his own sake. He comes from a closed loop system and has no idea how to communicate what he believes to those outside his subculture. The more he listens to MacArthur the bigger the gap.

I think you're a poor read of character. It always amazes me at how credulous people are for such poor jobs at character creation. I've known people that actually are what Rip pretended to be, including those with a superstitious outlook and end-times focus, and he didn't do a good job with context or consistency. I've lived in fundamentalist communities all my life, most of which included Americans. About the only group I'm really unfamiliar with is some of the American Reformed Churches/Calvinists, because they don't do much evangelism and missionary work, but then Rip wasn't presenting their views either.
That said, no-one really cared that Rip was a troll until he shifted away from the Ned Flanders/Beaver Cleaver gimmick and started doing more blatant trolling like, "Which WR poster has the lowest IQ?" and race baiting. Even then, he wasn't about to get banned.

 

[unimackpass]

I think you're a poor read of character. It always amazes me at how credulous people are for such poor jobs at character creation. I've known people that actually are what Rip pretended to be, including those with a superstitious outlook and end-times focus, and he didn't do a good job with context or consistency. I've lived in fundamentalist communities all my life, most of which included Americans. About the only group I'm really unfamiliar with is American Reformed Churches/Calvinists, because they don't do evangelism and missionary work, but then Rip wasn't presenting their views either.
That said, no-one really cared that Rip was a troll until he shifted away from the Ned Flanders/Beaver Cleaver gimmick and started doing more blatant trolling like, "Which WR poster has the lowest IQ?" and race baiting.

I think you're a poor read of character so I guess it is what it is.
I guess he was one of those alt-right race baiters the media keeps telling everyone about. I have to admit you surprised me with that one. Well maybe it doesn't.



It's sad but I know people that have bin constantly watching for this stuff for 20yrs. When I point out to them their speculation has always bin wrong and maybe they should think about that fact it has little effect.
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=580

 

[Ruprecht]

I guess he was one of those alt-right race baiters the media keeps telling everyone about.

I doubt it. Just trolling.

 

[unimackpass]

I doubt it. Just trolling.

You might be over estimating yourself seeing how you claimed I never lived and worked with a fundamentalist community, I happen to know you got that totally wrong.
I missed the racebaiting and trolling I guess. Seemed harmless enough but now everyone is a "race baiter" or alt-right.
Even trump is a "alt-right" or worse according to your artist buddy.
I can see why you would think that actually.

 

[Ruprecht]

You might be over estimating yourself seeing how you claimed I never lived and worked with a fundamentalist community, I happen to know you got that totally wrong.
I missed the racebaiting and trolling I guess. Seemed harmless enough but now everyone is a "race baiter" or alt-right.
Even trump is a "alt-right" or worse according to your artist buddy.
I can see why you would think that actually.

Well, my opinion that you didn't seem to have lived and worked in fundamentalist community (been, "a part of their subculture") was based on your statement that fundamentalists tend to just espouse seemingly random extreme beliefs. That's never been my experience at all. Not even with groups I would consider "cults", or when it's an isolated rural family that's essentially developed their own "doctrine".
With Fundamentalists who legitimately believe we are fast approaching the end-times and that demonic possession is an explanation for individual behaviour, those beliefs aren't just isolated, random collections of weird extreme beliefs, but a coherent world view which effects every aspect of behaviour.
For instance a strong belief in Millennialism, or a seven thousand year redemptive timeline, tends to correlate with a low regard for environmentalism or environmental stewardship.
After all with the end times fast approaching it doesn't really matter, does it?
The same end times view doesn't usually lend itself to a belief in Government either, or identity politics. "In the world but not of it", being a lot more common.
"Which American presidential candidate is most likely to be the Anti-Christ?"
Unless you're dealing with Kingdom Now theology or Reconstructionism, which are explicitly political, but come with their own specific sets of beliefs.
Likewise the "Ned Flanders" Christians tend to be those with a strong belief in Christian Pacifism.
Beliefs about demonic possession tend to be linked to a very literal view on spiritual warfare, and it's correlation with worldly places and events.
Nowithstanding a potential credulity for online hoaxes, there's consistency and coherency.

 

[InternetHero]

Gonna rub some of that on my next time I'm feeling frisky. See how the wife responds.

Chinese girls (at least my type) always seem to want to share their fluids and solids in bizarre but in somehow understandable ways.

Be careful how frisky she gets and how close to the animal kingdom may be the moral of the story.

 

[unimackpass]

Well, my opinion that you didn't seem to have lived and worked in fundamentalist community was based on your statement that fundamentalists tend to just espouse seemingly random extreme beliefs. That's never been my experience at all. Not even with groups I would consider "cults".
With Fundamentalists who legitimately believe we are fast approaching the end-times and that demonic possession is an explanation for individual behaviour, those beliefs aren't just isolated, random collections of weird extreme beliefs, but a coherent world view which effects every aspect of behaviour.
For instance a strong belief in Millennialism, or a seven thousand year redemptive timeline, tends to correlate with a low regard for environmentalism or environmental stewardship.
After all with the end times fast approaching it doesn't really matter, does it?
The same end times view doesn't usually lend itself to a belief in Government either, or identity politics. "In the world but not of it", being a lot more common.
"Which American presidential candidate is most likely to be the Anti-Christ?"
Unless you're dealing with Kingdom Now theology or Reconstructionism, which are explicitly political, but come with their own specific sets of beliefs.
Likewise the "Ned Flanders" Christians tend to be those with a strong belief in Christian Pacifism.
Beliefs about demonic possession tend to be linked to a very literal view on spiritual warfare, and it's correlation with worldly places and events.
Nowithstanding a potential credulity for online hoaxes, there's consistency and coherency.
Even when it's an isolated rural family that's essentially developed their own "doctrine".

Nice try. I said on certain things their very rigid but outside of the iron clad fundamentals they can be very random. Random to the point that everything becomes so fragmented that it causes extreme frustration.
Worked with a guy that actually believed in the weirdest Jack Chick stuff you could imagine.



He knew that the Pope was the antichrist and the Catholic Church was the whore of Babylon ect. Probably thinks it's Trump now or something like that.

Thing is he is a good bush pilot and was a missionary in Port Heiden where he lived with his wife and kids, later he moved to Homer. I got weathered in there while fishing and became friends him and a lot of the natives. Pretty soon I was flying all over the state with him helping build churches and supporting hurting communities.
The guy is a great carpenter and has a stellar work ethic that comes from his Mennonite upbringing. Unfortunately he was always involved in the most fundamentalist groups in the state so I ended up knowing all of them also.


I hung out with the whole deal as long as I could but it became pretty much unworkable for everyone. Fundamentalism is it's own worst enemy and just keeps causing split after split. We're still friends, I have a heck of a lot of respect for him but dang it's bin one heck of a education.
They have no idea what to think of me hanging out with the Orthodox Church but probably figure it's a good match for a guy that believes in evolution and not literalism.

Oh, and then there's Peter Ruckman the King James Only guy.
There's a real treat, a guy hasn't truly lived until they got the pleasure of hanging out with these guys.
Somehow they got a footing in the village of Sand Point that I was king crab fishing out of, but that's a whole other story.

 

[Ruprecht]

Nice try. I said on certain things their very rigid but outside of the iron clad fundamentals they can be very random. Random to the point that everything becomes so fragmented that it causes extreme frustration.
Worked with a guy that actually believed in the weirdest Jack Chick stuff you could imagine.



He knew that the Pope was the antichrist and the Catholic Church was the whore of Babylon ect. Probably thinks it's Trump now or something like that.

Thing is he is a good bush pilot and was a missionary in Port Heiden where he lived with his wife and kids, later he moved to Homer. I got weathered in there while fishing and became friends him and a lot of the natives. Pretty soon I was flying all over the state with him helping build churches and supporting hurting communities.
The guy is a great carpenter and has a stellar work ethic that comes from his Mennonite upbringing. Unfortunately he was always involved in the most fundamentalist groups in the state so I ended up knowing all of them also.


I hung out with the whole deal as long as I could but it became pretty much unworkable for everyone. Fundamentalism is it's own worst enemy and just keeps causing split after split. We're still friends, I have a heck of a lot of respect for him but dang it's bin one heck of a education.
They have no idea what to think of me hanging out with the Orthodox Church but probably figure it's a good match for a guy that believes in evolution and not literalism.

Oh, and then there's Peter Ruckman the King James Only guy.
There's a real treat, a guy hasn't truly lived until they got the pleasure of hanging out with these guys.
Somehow they got a footing in the village of Sand Point that I was king crab fishing out of, but that's a whole other story.

Even then, I wouldn't call belief in Chick Tracts random. Certainly no shortage of times that old guys told me Dungeons and Dragons was a gateway to the occult and satanism in the '80s. Correlated with a strong belief in Satanic Ritual Abuse, backmasking etc etc. Funnily enough the anti-catholic views are still present commonly amongst the "high church" Lutherans, despite the close comparison. Historical reasons no doubt.
I've been in plenty of churches that prefer the King James Bible, because the NIV is an "effeminate translation".
Sure, a lot of the more extreme views seem to be cultural beliefs read back into scripture, and that's especially obvious with groups like "Word of Faith" or the old "Mark of Cain" doctrine (in Baptist churches, not the Mormon variation), but they aren't incoherent.
As in, actually believing these things produces a coherent world view and effect on behaviour.
That's been true with even the most "out there" individuals I've met.

 

[unimackpass]

Even then, I wouldn't call belief in Chick Tracts random. Certainly no shortage of times that old guys told me Dungeons and Dragons was a gateway to the occult and satanism in the '80s. Correlated with a strong belief in Satanic Ritual Abuse, backmasking etc etc. Funnily enough the anti-catholic views are still present commonly amongst the "high church" Lutherans, despite the close comparison. Historical reasons no doubt.
I've been in plenty of churches that prefer the King James Bible, because the NIV is an "effeminate translation".
Sure, a lot of the more extreme views seem to be cultural beliefs read back into scripture, and that's especially obvious with groups like "Word of Faith" or the old "Mark of Cain" doctrine (in Baptist churches, not the Mormon variation), but they aren't incoherent.
As in, actually believing these things produces a coherent world view and effect on behaviour.
That's been true with even the most "out there" individuals I've met.

Ya, some pretty crazy stuff out there with lots of overlap.

Peter Ruckman and his Ruckmanites are a whole nother animal. Not just kjv preference but Only and everything else is a abomination. Bin recognized as a hardcore cult by many actually. They have a edge to them that is corrosive to the soul and anything they come in contact with. Continuous controversy swirls around these guys, the disciples become twice the sons of hell, it's crazy.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Chinese girls (at least my type) always seem to want to share their fluids and solids in bizarre but in somehow understandable ways.

 

[JonesBones]

I'm gonna show you guys a visual representation of this bitcoin insanity. Back during the tech bubble, basically adding a "dot.com" to your name would make your stock soar. Just saying those magic words. Bitcoin is the same. These companies all of a sudden announce they are no longer what they were, but are now blockchain tech companies. Those words alone make the stock soar. And then crash. Here are just 3 of these companies:

And this one is the most fuckin blatant. lol. A beverage company. Now says they are blockchain.

Long Island Iced Tea Corp. is a holding company which engages in the production and distribution of ready-to-drink iced tea. It produces brewed tea using black tea leaves, purified water, and natural cane sugar or sucralose with flavors such as lemon, peach, raspberry, guava, mango, diet lemon, diet peach, sweet tea, green tea and honey, and half tea and half lemonade. It also offers lower calorie iced tea in twelve ounce bottles. The company was founded on December 23, 2014 and is headquartered in Hicksville, NY.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I hated PWENT And I hate his new account just as much