War Room Lounge v97: Jesus Christ, you're even pedantic with foreplay.

[Sketch]

what race do you think I am haha?

I want to say some kind of Spanish because of how you throw the jab but the lounge seems to have all kinds of Asians and hapas so I have no idea.

 

[Sketch]

Bogan stereotypes.

Spoiler

Obviousy I can't speak to Juggalos in the midwest, and the "poor white trash" part seems to carry across, but the "wigga" label seems pretty accurate here. Of course the other parts blend in to Australia as a great redneck wonderland, but anything remotely "gangsta" sticks out like a sore thumb as utterly alien.

You guys dont have wiggers in Australia?

 

[My Spot]

You guys dont have wiggers in Australia?

lol just noticed your sig over Fawlty getting triggered by someone liking a post.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

that original scene is one of my all time favs. my youngest niece, she saw that when she was 6 & was cracking up hard at the absurdity.

God damn I forgot about that episode. I'm straight up crying laughing.

God damn I love that show.

 

[Ruprecht]

You guys dont have wiggers in Australia?

Sure. We're awash with Americanisations. Doesn't get much less genuine than a white, (comparatively) middle class suburban Australian imitating the culture of an African-american ghetto.

 

[Sketch]

lol just noticed your sig over Fawlty getting triggered by someone liking a post.

I have the best signatures

 

[Sketch]

Sure. We're awash with Americanisations. Doesn't get much less genuine than a white, (comparatively) middle class suburban Australian imitating the culture of an African-american ghetto.

Could be worse, you could have a bunch of slack jawed wannabe Canadians running around saying Eh apologizing constantly

 

[Trotsky]

Bogan stereotypes.

Spoiler

Obviousy I can't speak to Juggalos in the midwest, and the "poor white trash" part seems to carry across, but the "wigga" label seems pretty accurate here. Of course the other parts blend in to Australia as a great redneck wonderland, but anything remotely "gangsta" sticks out like a sore thumb as utterly alien.

Pretty unacceptable that you didn't post the Eric Bana Olympics skit in re Bogans.

Also, try to make your class consciousness more international. Juggalos aren't much to look at and ICP's music is very not good, but they're an artifact of the marginalized white underclass.

Based out of Detroit, Insane Clown Posse (ICP) have built a fan base in the decaying towns and cities of the Rust Belt.

Their followers were the outcasts, misfits, and fuckups in high school, considered too ugly or freakish to sit at the cool kids’ table. They are the cashiers at Walmart and the servers at McDonald’s, spectacles of misfortune either ignored or blithely exploited for cheap laughs. They live a life of menial labor that elite ideology insists they deserve.

Many liberals, who would blanche at the use of racial slurs, are nevertheless quick to call them rednecks or trailer trash — undesirable miscreants at best, socially backwards adversaries at worst. But, if we bracket their hatchet-wielding, face-painting, Faygo-spraying theatrics  —  and any other cultural trappings that allow so many outsiders to feel smugly superior to ICP’s acolytes  — we are left with a working-class community acutely aware of, and actively resisting, its profound alienation and social rejection.

Much of this understanding stems from the way Insane Clown Posse express class struggle in their music. Despite the group’s elaborate mythology and over-the-top performances, the duo manages to honestly reflect social marginalization, no doubt thanks to their own backgrounds.

Both Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope grew up extremely poor, dropped out of high school, and struggled to find some semblance of dignity in a declining industrial city. Whereas many contemporary musicians fake class consciousness by dressing the part and aestheticizing poverty, ICP have constructed an elaborate narrative that embraces horror, fantasy, and sexual deviance to articulate the ugliness of class exploitation.

...

Aware of society’s opinion of them, Juggalos see themselves as part of a family that must look out for itself because no one else will. It’s a genuine community that accepts those who would otherwise be cast aside and allows the marginalized to express themselves without fear of ridicule. It’s sutured itself together through members’ shared understanding of their status as the dregs of society, a genuine example of class-consciousness that any socialist should admire.

Of course, the Juggalo community — not unlike many left organizations — suffers from its share of racism, sexism, and homophobia. This is not an ethereal subculture, untarnished by the oppressions of the broader society. But regardless of its foibles, the mythology the Juggalos have embraced captures, and facilitates resistance to, the exploitation that structures the lives of poor and working-class people.

The Insane Clown Posse’s horrific imagery evokes the wretchedness of life in postindustrial landscapes, where ugliness and decay exist alongside hopelessness and alienation. To rap about murdering racist hillbillies rather than using your body to make profits for the boss refuses these realities. Juggalos affirm that these broader structures of exploitation — and not any personal inadequacies — determined their failures, and ICP’s music replaces ugly desperation with acceptance and camaraderie.

The figure of the Juggalo, in other words, turns the shame of a damaged life into power.

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/09/insane-clown-posse-juggalo-march-washington​

Not a fan of this tbh.

This is false, as I already established and you already acknowledged (so you're deliberately making a false claim). Your decision to misrepresent my views on the 2016 campaign and defend another poster's misrepresentation of my views (his likely just caused by just not really understanding well) is why I think that you're so invested in your Bernie fandom that you lose touch with reality.

I wasn't misrepresenting your views, as proven by the irrational reflexive defense of Clinton in question. You flipped out at a deferential statement of fact because it didn't deny reality and revise history to the benefit of your favorite politician. After sobering up to the silliness of your original position, you tried to make it a general feud about me.

You keep trying to dishonestly suggest some symmetry here, but you know the positions "Bernie is the best candidate and I hate a very similar one because she wasn't Bernie" and "both candidates are about the same" are not equivalently shillish.

I, for one, have never defended Sanders so irrationally as described above. In fact, I've frequently winced at the casual public opinions and portrayals of Sanders and other of my most favored US politicians, as economically illiterate bleeding hearts and spendthrifts. If someone says that it's reasonable for a casual observer to assume Sanders is less capable on fiscal policy than Trump because the latter is a renowned business man, I would not cry foul given public perceptions on socialists versus capitalists - even though I think any informed observer would find it not to be true.

Also, I don't dislike Clinton on the basis that "she wasn't Bernie." Even by your standards, that's a juvenile and dishonest thing to say. I dislike her because her policies are vicious and her politics are toxic. And, of course, the two are not remotely identical. If you care about, for instance, the hundreds of thousands in excess deaths caused by imperialist sanctions on Venezuela and Iran (both supported by Clinton) or by the Libyan intervention (in fact primarily sold to Obama by Clinton), there is great difference between a candidate who will retain or escalate those policies and one that will abandon them.

 

[Ruprecht]

Could be worse, you could have a bunch of slack jawed wannabe Canadians running around saying Eh apologizing constantly

I knew one Canadian that migrated. Tried to get an ice hockey league started. About as ridiculous as Jamaican bob sledders.
We have one ice rink in a city with a population of 1.3 million.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

juggalos seem kinda methy and unwashed but overall good people

 

[Ruprecht]

Pretty unacceptable that you didn't post the Eric Bana Olympics skit in re Bogans.

Also, try to make your class consciousness more international. Juggalos aren't much to look at and ICP's music is very not good, but they're an artifact of the marginalized white underclass.

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/09/insane-clown-posse-juggalo-march-washington​

You can keep them. America's underclasses are not ours, regardless of how online rural Australia is now.

 

[Sketch]

Well, I’ll leave you guys to it again.

 

[weed]

I want to say some kind of Spanish because of how you throw the jab but the lounge seems to have all kinds of Asians and hapas so I have no idea.

haha not Spanish, but I am mixed aka hapa.

 

[Sketch]

haha not Spanish, but I am mixed aka hapa.

Am I good or what?

 

[weed]

God damn I forgot about that episode. I'm straight up crying laughing.

God damn I love that show.

check out 'Wasted', I highly recommend it. all episodes are linked below on dailymotion:

recommendation alert:

a few years ago, a comedy from the UK debuted called "Wasted". if you love Always Sunny, you'll love this, or should.

Sean Bean guest stars, playing a "Ned Stark" type of role but as himself, except all within the mind of the main character. three of the main characters have appeared in Game of Thrones, funnily enough: (Morpheus aka the fat guy - gatekeeper at Winterfell who wouldn't let Arya enter in the last season | Allison - the whore that Tyrion speaks with before Ser Friendzone captures him | Ken or Kent - the drunken dude who brags about banging Cersi only to have his head smashed into a wall later when pissing by the zombie Mountain).

James Lamont is a co creator or whateverthefuck, wrote a bunch of Gumball episodes, so it's creative as all hell, of the 'R' rated variety.

there are only 6 episodes, which sucks ass, & I actually emailed E4, & they responded saying this was always meant to be a small single season project & nothing more. fucking sucks.

every episode is great, but my favorites are episodes 2 & 4

enjoy!

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

haha not Spanish, but I am mixed aka hapa.

no wonder we get along so well.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I come to the war room for the great meme thread.

But I stay for the debates on Juggalo culture

 

[Trotsky]

You can keep them. America's underclasses are not ours, regardless of how online rural Australia is now.

I, for one, look forward to the juggalos touching down and getting one of those patented Australian abbreviated nicky names like "juggies" or "clownos".

 

[Ruprecht]

I, for one, look forward to the juggalos touching down and getting one of those patented Australian abbreviated nicky names like "juggies" or "clownos".

They are already here. There was supposed to be one of their gatherings here in 2015, but it never happened.
With any luck they all decided to migrate to the US to follow their dreams of rural poverty.

 

[weed]

I come to the war room for the great meme thread.

But I stay for the debates on Juggalo culture

speaking of

@AgonyandIrony