War Room Lounge v97: Jesus Christ, you're even pedantic with foreplay.

[Fawlty]

There's a dog in the neighborhood who has been barking outside for an hour. Temp is 16f and dropping w/windchill single digits. Que la chingada who the fuck...

I had to leave my last dog outside for most of a winter once, and his shelter was built so that it never got under 32f. Not even that expensive to do, well under $100. The couple nights it did colder, he was moved somewhere warmer. People suck.

 

[Lord Coke]

what is your take on the two cops that got killed today?
@A.C.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

There's a dog in the neighborhood who has been barking outside for an hour. Temp is 16f and dropping w/windchill single digits. Que la chingada who the fuck...

I had to leave my last dog outside for most of a winter once, and his shelter was built so that it never got under 32f. Not even that expensive to do, well under $100. The couple nights it did colder, he was moved somewhere warmer. People suck.

How did you ensure it didn't get under 0 degrees (because 32 is a stupid number for freezing point we will use C) have a heat source rigged to a Thermostat?

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Vehimentely disagree.


They cheated, and not only should they not be in the Hall, they all should have been thrown out and banned at the time. All of em. Everyone in the documents.

That MLB didn't do the right thing then, didn't change the fact that their accomplishments are nullified, and we should continue to let it slide because MLB did so.


Same shit is happening right now. The Astros win in 17 is null and void. They cheated, factual and documented. MLB isn't voiding it, players aren't being punished. It's still illegitimate, and everyone knows it.

The Astros cheating is way worse in my opinion. I just feel like the fault of steroid proliferation rests so heavily on the League itself that it’s unfair to keep the best players of that era out of the Hall of Fame. Put an asterisk on it, admit everyone fucked up, but also admit these guys had insane talent. Clemens and Bonds would have been in the Hall even just based on their accomplishments before they got into steroids; but then once everyone else is doing it you either join them or you’re not at the top any more. That’s really tough for a competitive person.

But I do generally hate PED abusers in sports and I can definitely see your perspective as well.

I do think the Astros should be stripped of their championship.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

what is your take on the two cops that got killed today?
@A.C.

Terrible but I didn’t even hear about it. Had the day off and spent it with my family. Got an article or link?

 

[Lord Coke]

Terrible but I didn’t even hear about it. Had the day off and spent it with my family. Got an article or link?

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/...ArPatlxnt8mp_IoZeILgwXugiKEuFBC8794OvoX8BXHPw

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/19/police-2-officers-shot-hawaii/4519497002/
There is a video of the guy before hand. 69 year old white guy. Looks can be deceiving but I don't get how he took out 2 cops (shot a third but he survived) and killed 1-3 civilian and burned down 7 houses (burned down first house and fire spread)


this link has video of the guy

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/diamond-head-shooting-arson-suspect-jerry-hanel-had-a-past/

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/...ArPatlxnt8mp_IoZeILgwXugiKEuFBC8794OvoX8BXHPw

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/19/police-2-officers-shot-hawaii/4519497002/
There is a video of the guy before hand. 69 year old white guy. Looks can be deceiving but I don't get how he took out 2 cops (shot a third but he survived) and killed 1-3 civilian and burned down 7 houses (burned down first house and fire spread)


this link has video of the guy

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/diamond-head-shooting-arson-suspect-jerry-hanel-had-a-past/

Holy shit wow on Oahu. Right by Diamondhead. That’s horrible.

Idk about the specifics but from the pictures in the article the fire looks crazy. Must have been a chaotic scene. We’ve had so many cases of arson this past year, idk why it’s become such a common way of spreading chaos and diverting government attention and resources.

I’ll definitely look into this further. I don’t know either of the deceased personally. RIP.

 

[MVelsor]

My little boy is learning about Dr. King in Kindergarten and it is bringing tears to my eyes.

“Daddy, did you know that people with white skin used say people with dark skin weren’t as good? But Martin Luther King told them that was silly...

But then they got angry and wanted to hurt him and put him in jail lots of times. Why did they do that?”

The crowd reactions stick with you for a while.

 

[Fawlty]

How did you ensure it didn't get under 0 degrees (because 32 is a stupid number for freezing point we will use C) have a heat source rigged to a Thermostat?

Thermometer. But you could also just feel the difference, it was obvious. It was a cheap prefab that I lined with spare insulation (eventually both the pink fluffy stuff and the foam boards together, and a generous amount of hay with a couple blankets. Wasn't much space left over which was key. The door was finally an old piece of carpet that was perfect, heavy enough to stay shut and allow him in and out. You had suggested a heating pad and I nearly went that route, but found that insulation + hay kept it very nice all the way down to 0f. Two nights were a problem, both below zero. He wasn't cold but I wasn't taking any chances, didn't leave him out those nights.

Neighbor finally let his dog back in. Geez.

 

[MVelsor]

The Bonds snub is obviously way worse than Clemens, McGwire is about even imo.

Bonds is of course the worst snub.

This really says it all.

And for good reason...

 

[spin]

I just feel like the fault of steroid proliferation rests so heavily on the League itself that it’s unfair to keep the best players of that era out of the Hall of Fame.

that's like saying the onus is on the law to catch the criminal, not people from committing crime.

Put an asterisk on it, admit everyone fucked up, but also admit these guys had insane talent. Clemens and Bonds would have been in the Hall even just based on their accomplishments before they got into steroids

again back to use crime, how a man treated his wife before starting to get drunk and beat her, just isn't the thing to judge him by. or reasoning to forgive.

but then once everyone else is doing it you either join them or you’re not at the top any more. That’s really tough for a competitive person.

thats just straight rationalizing.


sorry man, i can't roll with any of this.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

that's like saying the onus is on the law to catch the criminal, not people from committing crime.



again back to use crime, how a man treated his wife before starting to get drunk and beat her, just isn't the thing to judge him by. or reasoning to forgive.



thats just straight rationalizing.


sorry man, i can't roll with any of this.

Well the point is MLB didn’t enforce it, didn’t test, and basically encouraged it with the huge PR campaign they threw behind obvious juicers McGwire and Sosa. It’s like if in your analogy the government doesn’t employ any law enforcement or courts, and encourages reality shows with big payouts to people committing crime on video.

Then long after the fact the government and media who created these conditions want to act holier than thou and like their sensibilities are so offended by the people who played by their rules?

 

[spin]

Well the point is MLB didn’t enforce it, didn’t test, and basically encouraged it with the huge PR campaign they threw behind obvious juicers McGwire and Sosa. It’s like if in your analogy the government doesn’t employ any law enforcement or courts, and encourages reality shows with big payouts to people committing crime on video.

Then long after the fact the government and media who created these conditions want to act holier than thou and like their sensibilities are so offended by the people who played by their rules?

didn't enforce it, didn't test, but was it or was it not against the rules they signed up for? it was.

its cheating.


all that's left is rationalizing.

 

[Limbo Pete]

didn't enforce it, didn't test, but was it or was it not against the rules they signed up for? it was.

its cheating.


all that's left is rationalizing.

It's such a refreshing breath of fresh air to see someone that hates cheating like I do
Boggles my fucking mind how people support them

 

[Clippy]

We could talk Star Wars

And aren't you a WC3 fan?

Talking Star Wars is more dangerous than talking politics

 

[Clippy]

Hello fellow posters

heyo

 

[Arqueto]

Talking Star Wars is more dangerous than talking politics

You should never talk about politics, religion, or Star Wars.

 

[Clippy]

There's a dog in the neighborhood who has been barking outside for an hour. Temp is 16f and dropping w/windchill single digits. Que la chingada who the fuck...

I had to leave my last dog outside for most of a winter once, and his shelter was built so that it never got under 32f. Not even that expensive to do, well under $100. The couple nights it did colder, he was moved somewhere warmer. People suck.

@Medulla Omoplata cut that out

 

[MardyBum]

Anyone hear about these two missing kids and a bunch of murders and deaths involving this whack job doomsday writer / possible cult leader and the mother of these two kids?

Yanked from a reddit thread about it :

Spoiler

-TIMELINE-

2018 - Tylee’s father, Joseph Ryan, died of a heart attack. - February 2019 - Charles and Lori separate because of Lori’s beliefs* - Summer 2019 - Melani Boudreaux (Lori’s niece) joins cult. Divorces Brandon Boudreaux. - July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow killed in “self defense” by Alex Cox (Lori Vallow’s brother). Joshua and Tylee were present. - September 23, 2019 - Joshua Vallow and Tylee Ryan last seen - October 2, 2019 - Attempted drive by shooting of Brandon Boudreaux (shooter’s car registered to Charles Vallow who was killed in July) -October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell reports masked man with a paintball gun shot at her - October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies - October 2019 - Chad and Lori get married - October 2019 - Tylee’s Venmo account was last used - November 26, 2019 - Police conduct welfare check and determine Chad and Lori left abruptly - December 11, 2019 - Tammy Daybell’s remains are exhumed - December 12, 2019 - Alex Cox dies (cause unknown) -

PEOPLE:

Lori Vallow (on the run) Chad Daybell (on the run) Lori's Son - Joshua Vallow (missing) Chad's Ex-wife - Tammy Daybell (dead) Lori's Daughter - Tylee Ryan (missing) Lori's Ex-husband - Joseph Ryan (dead) Lori's Ex-husband - Charles Vallow (dead) Lori's Brother - Alex Cox (dead) Lori's Niece - Melani Boudreaux (???) Lori's Nephew-in-law - Brandon Boudreaux (shot at)

Lori's BELIEFS:

*Lori believed she was a reincarnated deity, sent to Earth to prepare people for Jesus’ second coming. Lori was convinced she was eternally married to the Mormon prophet Moroni, Vallow’s attorney wrote in court filings recently unearthed by Fox 10 Phoenix, and also the grandmother of Mormon founder Joseph Smith.

Before they married, Lori and Chad appeared together on podcasts distributed by Preparing A People, a media company which touts the tagline, “Helping to prepare the people of this Earth for the second coming of Jesus Christ.”

Court documents refer to Lori as "Mother" and Charles as "Father". Charles said during a phone call in late January that Lori told him she is a "translated being who cannot taste death sent by god to lead the 144,000 into the Millennium".

"Mother believes that she is receiving spiritual revelations and visions to help her gather and prepare those chosen to live in the New Jerusalem after the Great War as prophesied in the Book of Revelations" read a portion of the documents.

Charles says in the documents that Lori threatened him, telling him she was a God preparing for christ's second coming in July 2020, and if he got in her way, she would murder him. Charles later got an Order of Protection.

The documents also show Charles trying to get help for Lori, but she refused because they would discover that she's a "translated being".

A police statement on the matter :

Spoiler

Update from Rexburg Police Dept:

UPDATE ON MISSING CHILDREN VALLOW/RYAN 12-30-2019 The Rexburg Police Department and the Madison County, Idaho Prosecutor’s Office want to thank everyone who has worked with us to find Joshua Vallow and Tylee Ryan since our press release on December 20th. The search for Joshua and Tylee is ongoing. We appreciate everyone who has brought attention to this situation by sharing information with our offices and on social media. We are very grateful for the help of the FBI and their resources. Finally, we are grateful for all the media outlets who have shared press releases and stories relating to these missing children. We continue to welcome any information regarding these children’s whereabouts from informed citizens, investigative journalism, or any other source. Since we first received a missing child report on November 26th, our number one priority has been finding Joshua and Tylee. We have taken every step available to us, including executing multiple search warrants, interviewing multiple sources, and running down every lead we have found. We strongly believe that Joshua and Tylee’s lives are in danger. We are aware that in the weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death, Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell told witnesses that Lori’s daughter had died a year before the death of her father, which is untrue. Around that same time Chad told another witness that Lori had no minor children. Many people have inquired as to why we have not filed charges yet in this case. Our primary concern at this point is simply locating Joshua and Tylee and charging decisions will be made in due course based upon the evidence available. If we find that harm was done to these children within our jurisdiction, we will prosecute whoever caused that harm. As stated in our previous press release, Lori Vallow/Daybell, the adopted mother of Joshua and biological mother of Tylee, has completely refused to assist this investigation. We know that the children are not with Lori and Chad Daybell and we also have information indicating that Lori knows either the location of the children or what has happened to them. Despite having this knowledge, she has refused to work with law enforcement to help us resolve this matter. It is astonishing that rather than work with law enforcement to help us locate her own children, Lori Vallow has chosen instead to leave the state with her new husband. We publicly call on Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell to do the right thing and come forward with the information they have about the location and welfare of Joshua and Tylee. This entire investigation could have been avoided if Lori and Chad had simply been honest with law enforcement. We further continue to ask that anyone with any information regarding the location or welfare of Joshua and Tylee share that information with law enforcement.

God damn.

 

[Prokofievian]

There's a dog in the neighborhood who has been barking outside for an hour. Temp is 16f and dropping w/windchill single digits. Que la chingada who the fuck...

I had to leave my last dog outside for most of a winter once, and his shelter was built so that it never got under 32f. Not even that expensive to do, well under $100. The couple nights it did colder, he was moved somewhere warmer. People suck.

Thermometer. But you could also just feel the difference, it was obvious. It was a cheap prefab that I lined with spare insulation (eventually both the pink fluffy stuff and the foam boards together, and a generous amount of hay with a couple blankets. Wasn't much space left over which was key. The door was finally an old piece of carpet that was perfect, heavy enough to stay shut and allow him in and out. You had suggested a heating pad and I nearly went that route, but found that insulation + hay kept it very nice all the way down to 0f. Two nights were a problem, both below zero. He wasn't cold but I wasn't taking any chances, didn't leave him out those nights.

Neighbor finally let his dog back in. Geez.

What kind of dog?