War Room Lounge v88: Timely Yoga Sharts. Also, '88' is code for 'Heil Hipsters.' Plus lite doxxing.

[SBJJ]

Dude, there are plenty of low hanging fruit to dislike Biden about without having to make reaches like this.

You must be blind

 

[SBJJ]

I made the rules about sexual assault? I thought it was the law/morality but okay.

No. But you need to apply the law equally. Not defend those who hold your same political views and fuck over the rest

 

[Gregolian]

Just depends on the work. You could be defending white collar criminals, or you could be that pudgy Jewish guy from The Wire.

I think I could live with myself when I went home easier railroading a person with a long rap sheet into jail for an extended period of time over defending people that are killing motherfuckers in the street and paying me in drug money.

But I also work in a prosecutor's office right now and for the Juvenile side of things... unless they stick a gun in someone's face to rob them? They barely get fucking punished anymore.

 

[Islam Imamate]

@Jack V Savage I really can't believe you idolize this creep

Jesus Christ what a fucking creep

@Trotsky did you read the comments under that tweet? It's a goldmine lmao.

"on a scale from Only Sorta Into Eugenics to Blueprints In My Basement For The Next Master Race, how badly do you want to put some calipers on her dome bro."

"The new milf hunter"

"I wish I could pepper spray you through cyberspace"

I love how he falls back on "its scientific fact!" when he's accused of being a creep. Lot of things are facts, doesn't mean you're not a creep for mentioning them. Girls become capable of reproduction once they go through puberty, that being a fact wouldn't save me from being a creep if I mentioned it at a girls sweet 16.

Every time you see a statement attributed to Bill Barr, replace it with Bill Burr.

I already do that, was actually going to mention how often I make that mistake when briefly looking over thread titles.

So you believe everyone who touches another person's ass should be charged with sexual assault. Put on a list? Have to register?

I save sexual assault for more serious offenses. Like rape parties where girls are drugged. The kinda shit no one could ever downplay, defend or see and do nothing to stop it

Sexual assault is any non-consensual, sexual touching so yes grabbing someone's ass. Its completely pointless to reserve the term sexual assault for actual rapes when there is already the crime of rape. That is why people mention the two together and don't use them interchangeably, because they are different crimes

Now of course there are still degrees of sexual assault. Grabbing someone's ass through their clothing is pretty much the bare minimum that applies as sexual assault but any non-consensual touching short of rape(which requires penetration) is sexual assault.

I'm surprised to see you accept that at face value; to each their own, I guess. But I like the gif.

Well another poster did confirm that he deleted this original post and I imagined it can be verified if he did indeed hand down an infraction to Ultra. I think Mick has seriously devolved over the last year or two and it was still a pretty egregiously self serving explanation he came up with there but he back tracked so I say fair enough, more beans please.

 

[Trotsky]

Girls become capable of reproduction once they go through puberty, that being a fact wouldn't save me from being a creep if I mentioned it at a girls sweet 16.

Welp, welcome to my signature, friendo.

 

[Wet Blanket]

I don't think I could be a defense attorney unless it was as like a public defender and for the work they do they aren't paid in a way that is worth it.

The more noble the deed (public defense / legal aid) the less it pays it seems.

 

[Higus]

Straight up, this goes for Biden, Trump and any other people in that "elite" category.

They never will be indicted, charged, or found guilty of sex crimes? Why? THEY'RE SO FUCKING RICH they just pay people off and the ones that can't be bought sadly don't come forward till the statute of limitations has run.

That's the odd thing: Biden isn't even that rich compared to his peers. He seemingly does a lot of pro-bank stuff in exchange for BoA ballpoint pens and golf visors or something.

 

[tonni]

No. But you need to apply the law equally. Not defend those who hold your same political views and fuck over the rest

I have no idea what you're talking about but you seem a victim of your emotions here.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I think many of you have grossly misinterpreted what @SBJJ is saying regarding this appropriate touching.

In no way is he defending this. he's simply saying that the reaction/consequences far outweigh the "crime" he committed.

 

[Gregolian]

The more noble the deed (public defense / legal aid) the less it pays it seems.

Public employees in general in the Court system if they don't wear a robe and have a gavel are paid shit.

I make $44k a year. People in private firms doing less than I do? Like $60k.

 

[Higus]

You must be blind

You must be desperate.

 

[Higus]

I think many of you have grossly misinterpreted what @SBJJ is saying regarding this appropriate touching.

In no way is he defending this. he's simply saying that the reaction/consequences far outweigh the "crime" he committed.

That would be a more interesting discussion, but it doesn't seem like it was the direction he wanted to take it.

 

[Andy Capp]

Moderators don't moderate each other, and we aren't going to have that sort of discussion in the general forum.
I can tell you though, that aside from empty flaming without addressing the topic, the definition of "over the top" flaming is highly subjective between moderators. I largely don't care as long as it's on topic, but if a poster is continuously flaming even while they still address the topic, there's a good chance of copping an infraction for it. Especially if they already have infractions for "empty flaming".
Accusations of murder, philia, rape, threats of violence and involving a posters family members etc is explicitly mentioned in the rules as "over the top" and highly likely to get you infracted.
If someone breaks the rules, that's not a licence for tit-for-tat. Chances are everyone involved will get infracted.

I'm specifically referring to the "I only called him an accused " hedge. I guess I'm just looking for some sign that this sort of hair splitting is not a common tactic among you. Well, that and some of that consulting among you stuff that Lead is always talking about, which would appear to contradict your claim mods don't moderate each other.

But just to be clear, I had no expectation that you should take any particular action, particularly having a discussion about mods moderating the mods in the general forum. I just asked for your opinion. Whether that opinion would bring you into conflict with other mods (presumably in a milieu other than this thread) is not my concern.

 

[Mendacious]

Public employees in general in the Court system if they don't wear a robe and have a gavel are paid shit.

I make $44k a year. People in private firms doing less than I do? Like $60k.

Good job security and a pension, no?

 

[Jack V Savage]

You must be desperate.

The problem is that SBJJ is very dumb and very poorly informed, but he wants to support his "team" at all costs. So he's not able to think about Biden's history and pick out legitimate negatives or to kind of take him down philosophically (both of which would be fairly easy for a smarter, better-informed person), so what else is there? Well, shit, Youtubers have already collected videos for him.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I'm specifically referring to the "I only called him an accused " hedge.

And "accused" by another poster. Is that the standard, guys? If some troll calls you a , anyone else can call you an accused with impunity? If so, it kind of makes a mockery of the "no calling people s" rule.

 

[Gregolian]

Good job security and a pension, no?

Yeah but, a little extra money going to my bank account wouldn't hurt either.

I know I posted it either earlier in this thread or in the prior Lounge thread but hearing how the County Council keeps asking our head attorney why they can't retain people is hilarious. I'm dumbing it down but:
"Why can't you retain attorneys?" -County Council
"Because our salary isn't competitive with the private sector" -Head Attorney
"How so?" -County Council
"Starting is 60k here (making the numbers up), most can get 80k after a year of experience here privately" -Head Attorney
"Oh" -County Council
"Also, they're being worked to the bone because you won't budget us more money to fill vacancies fast enough" -Head Attorney
"How many vacancies are there?" -County Council
"13" -Head Attorney
"Here's money for 6 positions" -County Council
"Can I get my people a raise to retain them?" -Head Attorney
"At best we can raise the taxes to get your people a 2% raise" -County Council

4 months later after another 5 people leave to go into private practice
"Why can't you retain attorneys?"

 

[Higus]

I'm specifically referring to the "I only called him an accused " hedge. I guess I'm just looking for some sign that this sort of hair splitting is not a common tactic among you. Well, that and some of that consulting among you stuff that Lead is always talking about, which would appear to contradict your claim mods don't moderate each other.

But just to be clear, I had no expectation that you should take any particular action, particularly having a discussion about mods moderating the mods in the general forum. I just asked for your opinion. Whether that opinion would bring you into conflict with other mods (presumably in a milieu other than this thread) is not my concern.

fwiw, I got an infraction for making what was an obvious joke about a poster potentially being a phile. If the same standard that was applied to me does not apply here, then I'd love it if a mod explained the distinction, either in here or via PM.

 

[Mendacious]

Yeah but, a little extra money going to my bank account wouldn't hurt either.

I know I posted it either earlier in this thread or in the prior Lounge thread but hearing how the County Council keeps asking our head attorney why they can't retain people is hilarious. I'm dumbing it down but:
"Why can't you retain attorneys?" -County Council
"Because our salary isn't competitive with the private sector" -Head Attorney
"How so?" -County Council
"Starting is 60k here (making the numbers up), most can get 80k after a year of experience here privately" -Head Attorney
"Oh" -County Council
"Also, they're being worked to the bone because you won't budget us more money to fill vacancies fast enough" -Head Attorney
"How many vacancies are there?" -County Council
"13" -Head Attorney
"Here's money for 6 positions" -County Council
"Can I get my people a raise to retain them?" -Head Attorney
"At best we can raise the taxes to get your people a 2% raise" -County Council

4 months later after another 5 people leave to go into private practice
"Why can't you retain attorneys?"

Quite the conundrum there.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

That would be a more interesting discussion, but it doesn't seem like it was the direction he wanted to take it.

let's have that discussion then.

what do you think the appropriate/commensurate response should have been?