War Room Lounge v88: Timely Yoga Sharts. Also, '88' is code for 'Heil Hipsters.' Plus lite doxxing.

[TheGreatA]

Sure but I am pretty sure context is taken into account. I doubt a football player who had his ass slapped by the coach a hundred times can go out and have the coach charged after the 101st time

I suppose that depends on the gender of the football player.

 

[SBJJ]

Actually he is defending it by saying it's not sexual assault, which it objectively is.

Care to wager if he is charged? It is on video

By the law any unwarranted touching can be assault.

I'm just asking you and others to not be flaming hypocrites about it

And once more....so what u are saying is that Biden has sexually assaulted multiple children, right?

 

[Gregolian]

Oh shit... Mass Effect is being taken off the shelf over at BioWare.

Hopefully they don't fuck the IP up as badly as they did when they made Andromeda.

 

[Higus]

@SBJJ
bonus orly

"Can I ask you something?" Trump asked someone I know, about his then-13-year-old kid, "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?"

 

[Jack V Savage]

Oh. So I would do what you guys do with Biden?

Nah. I've spoke of removing Trump in past threads. Cohen thread and Iran thread.

I just need some evidence of his fondling of children like we have with Biden

What guys?

I do remember back in 2017, people were saying "if only Democrats had nominated Biden," and I said that if they nominated Biden, he'd be the one partisans would be convinced was a criminal and a monster, and people were, like, "no way, Biden's been around for ever and no one has said anything like that." There's no honor here. Just a couple of posts ago, you were accusing me of binge drinking for having the nerve to ever question the GOP narrative. That's how you people operate. Anyone who doesn't dance to the tune gets dishonest personal smears.

 

[Jack V Savage]

@SBJJ
bonus orly

"Can I ask you something?" Trump asked someone I know, about his then-13-year-old kid, "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?"

And, again, there is zero chance of SBJJ being consistent here.

 

[HereticBD]

I've been saying this, y'all were the ones saying otherwise some Lounge threads ago.

Please. You only started taking issue with me, after you had a spat with me over the Muslim faith a few months ago. You never said shit before that. That's all your hate comes down to.

 

[SBJJ]

What guys?

I do remember back in 2017, people were saying "if only Democrats had nominated Biden," and I said that if they nominated Biden, he'd be the one partisans would be convinced was a criminal and a monster, and people were, like, "no way, Biden's been around for ever and no one has said anything like that." There's no honor here. Just a couple of posts ago, you were accusing me of binge drinking for having the nerve to ever question the GOP narrative. That's how you people operate. Anyone doesn't dance to the tune gets dishonest personal smears.

So that is a no on the stopped drinking?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I'm not familiar with the outcome of the case. Besides being barred from future events, was there any other punishment for the act?

I think he lost his job, publically humiliated, doxxed essentially. (assuming the facts of this are accurately reprsented in the other thread)

 

[Ruprecht]

I'm specifically referring to the "I only called him an accused " hedge. I guess I'm just looking for some sign that this sort of hair splitting is not a common tactic among you. Well, that and some of that consulting among you stuff that Lead is always talking about, which would appear to contradict your claim mods don't moderate each other.

But just to be clear, I had no expectation that you should take any particular action, particularly having a discussion about mods moderating the mods in the general forum. I just asked for your opinion. Whether that opinion would bring you into conflict with other mods (presumably in a milieu other than this thread) is not my concern.

Rules, their implementation and the bans of long term posters are largely consensus decisions (obviously Crave and admin have the ultimate authority). That's not the same as moderating each other.

 

[Andy Capp]

And "accused" by another poster. Is that the standard, guys? If some troll calls you a , anyone else can call you an accused with impunity? If so, it kind of makes a mockery of the "no calling people s" rule.

Well, in fairness, the standard is whatever the fuck they want it to be and I have no problem with that; an issue only arises when the standard changes from moment to moment.

 

[Jack V Savage]

So that is a no on the stopped drinking?

@LiquidityTrap, this is the person you've been defending.

 

[Andy Capp]

Rules, their implementation and the bans of long term posters are largely consensus decisions (obviously Crave and admin have the ultimate authority). That's not the same as moderating each other.

No, but it is a way to avoid telling me your opinion.

 

[Trotsky]

Speaking of monopolizing moral distinctions with bad faith personal attacks.

 

[SBJJ]

@SBJJ
bonus orly

"Can I ask you something?" Trump asked someone I know, about his then-13-year-old kid, "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?"

@SBJJ
bonus orly

"Can I ask you something?" Trump asked someone I know, about his then-13-year-old kid, "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?"

First. The article is 100% gossip. That would be like posting an Alex Jones article.

The pictures do not show Trump fondling kissing and smelling a scared child. A child he does not know.

But again. He is a serial cheater. Who more than likely has groped women in his past.

But if we get video of him fondling scared children I will be with you guys.

Or you can impeach him for being a Saudi cuck

 

[Lord Coke]

https://www.mintpressnews.com/harvesting-blood-americas-poor-late-stage-capitalism/263175/
The process of giving blood is not a pleasurable one. Currier noted that after constantly donating, “the bruising gets terrible…Sometimes they can’t find the vain ‘n’ shit or they insert it wrong and they have to adjust the needle underneath your skin” she said, claiming that just thinking about it freaks her out, and revealed that her husband had to temporarily stop donating as his bosses thought he was on heroin due to the track marks on his arms.

Watkins agreed. “You could always tell how long someone had been doing the job by that needle,” he recalls. “Once they’d been there a year or so, they’d have stabbed literally thousands of people and could just tap your elbow once and slide the needle into the vein with no problems. New guys would miss the vein, punch through the vein, or try to hunt for it with the needle tip, which would leave terrible bruises.”

There is also little thought for the comfort of the patients. As Watkins explained, the thermostats are always turned down to around 50-60ºF for the plasma’s sake. Once the amber-colored plasma has been extracted, your cooled blood is re-injected in a painful process that feels as if ice is being inserted into the body. “Combined with the already cold air temperatures, this was maddening,” he notes.

Thus, America’s zombie poor are left almost permanently mentally drained like heroin addicts, and with similarly bruised and punctured arms, except they are being paid for the inconvenience. But perhaps the worst thing about the experience, according to those interviewed, is the dehumanization of the process.

Donors are publicly weighed to make sure they are heavy enough. Obese people are worth more to the bloodthirsty companies as they can safely extract more plasma from them each session (while paying out the same compensation). “They definitely turn you into a product in a very literal sense,” Watkins says; “It’s deeply exploitative and a symptom of just how far gone capitalism is.”

Many centers are enormous, with multiple rows of dozens of machines working in an attempt to appease the insatiable appetite of the vampiric corporation. And there is, according to Watkins, no lack of human “victims” willing to be treated like animals in battery farms, in exchange for a few dollars: “It was an assembly line to extract liquid gold from human mines,” he notes.

Currier also highlighted the treatment of the staff and the cost-cutting measures of clinics in Maryland she visited would enact:

Usually the places are hugely understaffed which means they frequently don’t change gloves, the people are overworked, and at the minimum you’re staying there for 2-3 hours which means you have to plan a whole day around this shit only to get 20 bucks in your pocket to make it through the next few days. It’s depressing, disheartening and frankly embarrassing to have to hustle like this. I feel like shit after I donate.”



Exploitation reaches new levels
But the exploitation of humans has reached new levels in clinics on the U.S.-Mexico border. Every week, thousands of Mexicans enter the U.S. on temporary visas to sell their blood to for-profit pharmaceutical corporations. The practice is banned on health grounds in Mexico but is completely legal north of the border. According to ProPublica, there are at least 43 blood donation centers along the border that prey primarily on Mexican nationals in a legally ambiguous practice.

According to a Swiss documentary on the subject, there are precious few checks on the cleanliness of the blood these companies accept, with some donors interviewed admitting they were drug addicts. But all is sacrificed in the pursuit of dazzling profits, something donors were well aware of. Rachel from Wisconsin admitted,

I did it for the money, I think we all do it for the money, but it’s not really something you out and out say because there’s a veneer of “helping the sick” slathered over it. But I caught glimpses of what kind of industry it was on occasion through innocuous questioning. The amount of plasma drawn from one person per donation was worth upwards of $600, I never really got a clear answer on that.

Andrew from Pennsylvania agreed, noting wryly,

I know my plasma was worth thousands of dollars per donation [to others], because I’ve seen what a hospital in my city charged a hemophiliac for platelets, so the pittance that they pay is ridiculous, but there is only one buyer making offers at the human level. If you’re poor and out of other options, you’ll take $40 however you can get it. Any port in a storm.”

Michael, a social worker from Georgia who sold his blood for extra cash, was deeply scornful of the entire situation. “I’ve known quite a number of people who rely on money made by selling plasma. A lot of times it’s to cover childcare or prescriptions or something along those lines,” he said. “It’s absolutely deplorable to leverage literal blood money from people who have so few options.”

A sign encouraging students to sell blood to fund their education. Twitter | @tjulrich

Big pharma is particularly interested in the blood of the young. One billboard campaign from Grifols intentionally targeted working-class students. “Need books? No worries. Donate Plasma” reads the headline. Teenager blood is in high demand in, of all places, Silicon Valley, where anti-aging technologies are the latest trend. One company, Ambrosia, charges $8,000 per treatment to aging tech executives, infusing them with the blood of the young, turning these individuals into bloodsuckers in more ways than one. Despite the fact that there is no clinical evidence that the practice has any beneficial effects, business is booming. One committed customer is PayPal co-founder turned Trump surrogate Peter Thiel, who is reportedly spending vast sums of money on funding anti-aging startups. Thiel claims that we have been conned by “the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual” and believes that his own immortality may be just around the corner, a notion that has deeply concerned academics and commentators alike.

The new and booming blood market is the perfect embodiment of the late capitalist dystopia modern America has become. The dehumanizing process of harvesting the blood of the poor to fund the quixotic immortality dreams of the super-wealthy turns the former into walking, living zombies and the latter into vampires, feasting on the blood of the young; a true American horror story worthy of Stephen King or H.P. Lovecraft. As Rachel from Wisconsin said:

It really is an industry where ‘squeezing blood from stones’ is about as literal as you can get.”

Feature photo | Graphic by Claudio Cabrera

 

[SBJJ]

And, again, there is zero chance of SBJJ being consistent here.

Videos of molestation of scared children vs still pics of him and his daughter (no molestation) and a gossip link from Buzzfeed

Lol. Do better Jack

 

[Islam Imamate]

@HereticBD is a shameless partisan, but he's better than plenty of the right-wingers here. You can see @Crazy Diamond responding to a couple of them a few pages ago. Posters like that who spend all their time on here looking for attention and clogging up discussions with stupidity should be ignored.

Tbh I rank SBJJ and trac209 ahead of him because in my experience they're far more likely to drop the act and try and engage in good faith discussions.

Please. You only started taking issue with me, after you had a spat with me over the Muslim faith a few months ago. You never said shit before that.
That's all your hate comes down to.

I don't even remember what you're talking about. Certainly its possible that exchange influenced my view of you but its certainly not just that. There are other posters I strongly disagree with Islam on that I think are otherwise decent posters like Microbrew or meauneau.

So its definitely not that, mainly its because you're someone who consistently engages in bad faith, partisan arguments. Every once in a while you'll break the rhythm with some half decent posts but for the most part the pattern is clear.

 

[Trotsky]

https://www.mintpressnews.com/harvesting-blood-americas-poor-late-stage-capitalism/263175/
The process of giving blood is not a pleasurable one. Currier noted that after constantly donating, “the bruising gets terrible…Sometimes they can’t find the vain ‘n’ shit or they insert it wrong and they have to adjust the needle underneath your skin” she said, claiming that just thinking about it freaks her out, and revealed that her husband had to temporarily stop donating as his bosses thought he was on heroin due to the track marks on his arms.

Watkins agreed. “You could always tell how long someone had been doing the job by that needle,” he recalls. “Once they’d been there a year or so, they’d have stabbed literally thousands of people and could just tap your elbow once and slide the needle into the vein with no problems. New guys would miss the vein, punch through the vein, or try to hunt for it with the needle tip, which would leave terrible bruises.”

There is also little thought for the comfort of the patients. As Watkins explained, the thermostats are always turned down to around 50-60ºF for the plasma’s sake. Once the amber-colored plasma has been extracted, your cooled blood is re-injected in a painful process that feels as if ice is being inserted into the body. “Combined with the already cold air temperatures, this was maddening,” he notes.

Thus, America’s zombie poor are left almost permanently mentally drained like heroin addicts, and with similarly bruised and punctured arms, except they are being paid for the inconvenience. But perhaps the worst thing about the experience, according to those interviewed, is the dehumanization of the process.

Donors are publicly weighed to make sure they are heavy enough. Obese people are worth more to the bloodthirsty companies as they can safely extract more plasma from them each session (while paying out the same compensation). “They definitely turn you into a product in a very literal sense,” Watkins says; “It’s deeply exploitative and a symptom of just how far gone capitalism is.”

Many centers are enormous, with multiple rows of dozens of machines working in an attempt to appease the insatiable appetite of the vampiric corporation. And there is, according to Watkins, no lack of human “victims” willing to be treated like animals in battery farms, in exchange for a few dollars: “It was an assembly line to extract liquid gold from human mines,” he notes.

Currier also highlighted the treatment of the staff and the cost-cutting measures of clinics in Maryland she visited would enact:

Usually the places are hugely understaffed which means they frequently don’t change gloves, the people are overworked, and at the minimum you’re staying there for 2-3 hours which means you have to plan a whole day around this shit only to get 20 bucks in your pocket to make it through the next few days. It’s depressing, disheartening and frankly embarrassing to have to hustle like this. I feel like shit after I donate.”



Exploitation reaches new levels
But the exploitation of humans has reached new levels in clinics on the U.S.-Mexico border. Every week, thousands of Mexicans enter the U.S. on temporary visas to sell their blood to for-profit pharmaceutical corporations. The practice is banned on health grounds in Mexico but is completely legal north of the border. According to ProPublica, there are at least 43 blood donation centers along the border that prey primarily on Mexican nationals in a legally ambiguous practice.

According to a Swiss documentary on the subject, there are precious few checks on the cleanliness of the blood these companies accept, with some donors interviewed admitting they were drug addicts. But all is sacrificed in the pursuit of dazzling profits, something donors were well aware of. Rachel from Wisconsin admitted,

I did it for the money, I think we all do it for the money, but it’s not really something you out and out say because there’s a veneer of “helping the sick” slathered over it. But I caught glimpses of what kind of industry it was on occasion through innocuous questioning. The amount of plasma drawn from one person per donation was worth upwards of $600, I never really got a clear answer on that.

Andrew from Pennsylvania agreed, noting wryly,

I know my plasma was worth thousands of dollars per donation [to others], because I’ve seen what a hospital in my city charged a hemophiliac for platelets, so the pittance that they pay is ridiculous, but there is only one buyer making offers at the human level. If you’re poor and out of other options, you’ll take $40 however you can get it. Any port in a storm.”

Michael, a social worker from Georgia who sold his blood for extra cash, was deeply scornful of the entire situation. “I’ve known quite a number of people who rely on money made by selling plasma. A lot of times it’s to cover childcare or prescriptions or something along those lines,” he said. “It’s absolutely deplorable to leverage literal blood money from people who have so few options.”

A sign encouraging students to sell blood to fund their education. Twitter | @tjulrich

Big pharma is particularly interested in the blood of the young. One billboard campaign from Grifols intentionally targeted working-class students. “Need books? No worries. Donate Plasma” reads the headline. Teenager blood is in high demand in, of all places, Silicon Valley, where anti-aging technologies are the latest trend. One company, Ambrosia, charges $8,000 per treatment to aging tech executives, infusing them with the blood of the young, turning these individuals into bloodsuckers in more ways than one. Despite the fact that there is no clinical evidence that the practice has any beneficial effects, business is booming. One committed customer is PayPal co-founder turned Trump surrogate Peter Thiel, who is reportedly spending vast sums of money on funding anti-aging startups. Thiel claims that we have been conned by “the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual” and believes that his own immortality may be just around the corner, a notion that has deeply concerned academics and commentators alike.

The new and booming blood market is the perfect embodiment of the late capitalist dystopia modern America has become. The dehumanizing process of harvesting the blood of the poor to fund the quixotic immortality dreams of the super-wealthy turns the former into walking, living zombies and the latter into vampires, feasting on the blood of the young; a true American horror story worthy of Stephen King or H.P. Lovecraft. As Rachel from Wisconsin said:

It really is an industry where ‘squeezing blood from stones’ is about as literal as you can get.”

Feature photo | Graphic by Claudio Cabrera

Wow, that's wild.

I donate (not sell) blood every 3-4 months, but it's a very unpleasant experience for me, physically. Most of the time I break into a cold sweat and about a third of the time I go into full shock and nearly faint.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Videos of molestation of scared children vs still pics of him and his daughter (no molestation) and a gossip link from Buzzfeed

Lol. Do better Jack

So one set of bogus evidence is bogus and the other set is good. That's the point. No consistency. Hence my earlier point that if there were a video of Trump fondling children, you'd find a way to defend it. You don't have principles. You're just a pure tribalist.