War Room Lounge v64

[Social Distance Warrior]

No, that was Tommy Sotomayor. Not sure why he went on his show because he had to have known Dave's a J00 as well, which Tommy doesn't particularly care for.

what is his deal? Tommy Sotomayor? that guy seems more "crazy" or off his rocker than most.

 

[all caps]

what is his deal? Tommy Sotomayor? that guy seems more "crazy" or off his rocker than most.

Watch him and find out. Make up your own mind about him.

 

[Higus]

I think, in the hands of someone who knows how to use it at least, more of those outcomes are bad for the thief breaking in than for the gun owner and I would prefer that over being defenseless and confronting a burglar. If I didn't have a gun I would just call the cops from a distance and resign to letting my neighbors house get broken into and the myriad of potential bad outcomes that can come from that because I wouldn't be confident in confronting them.

Thankfully I live around the kind of white people who have guns so if anything they're the ones who should be protecting me.

I feel like there are way too many elements to this scenario to expect good outcomes, even from a well trained person trying to intervene. The possible outcomes range from going in and saving the day to getting yourself killed to accidentally killing your neighbors. Part of being a responsible gun owner is understanding your limitations.
@A.C. any thoughts on the scenario?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Watch him and find out. Make up your own mind about him.

admittedly, I only saw that one clip of him, where he was going off about not knowing Rubin was gay.

I'll watch some others.

 

[Prokofievian]

Hey man come on. That's not true. He just doesnt pull punches on anyone or anything.

The jews are destroying your people with alcohol. Hey, I just tells em like I sees em. lol gtfo here.

 

[Ruprecht]

I don't think I've heard Sowell weigh in on right-wing identity politics, he mostly comes off as a libertarian ideologue.
Then again I haven't heard from him lately, so maybe he's "evolved" with his party.

 

[all caps]

The jews are destroying your people with alcohol. Hey, I just tells em like I sees em. lol gtfo here.

Everybody says dumb shit though. You ain't perfect.

 

[Prokofievian]

Everybody says dumb shit though. You ain't perfect.

No, but I am fabulOUUUUUSSSSS

 

[Jack V Savage]

not trying to pull a "both sides" but I'm going to have respectfully disagree with you here.

the new left is just as guilty of this as the right. people don't seem to "discuss" or debate the facts anymore. "winning" an argument has become more important than being accurate.

If you're just talking Joe Sixpack, you can bothsides it, sure. Most people aren't obsessed with policy and political philosophy and shit, and thus come off as idiots when they discuss it. But among people who are, and pundits and politicians and staffers, the right is equally intellectually dead, and that's just not true of the left. One can just look at the presidential election (last and next) to illustrate the point, but also compare the most influential writers. And it's not just Trump. Pence is a moron, too. Or look at Congressional hearings. You might think that Democratic Congressfolk are much smarter, but I don't think that's it. I quoted this bit recently:

In class, I show my undergraduates unlabeled pictures of four different stone toolkits from (1) eighteenth-century Tasmanians, (2) seventeenth-century Australian Aborigines, (3) Neanderthals, and (4) late Paleolithic modern-looking humans (30,000 years ago). I ask them to assess the cognitive abilities of the toolmakers by looking at the tools. ... My students always rate the Tasmanians and Neanderthals as less cognitively sophisticated than [the other two groups]. ... Unfortunately, no one raises their hand to suggest that, actually, it's not possible to infer innate cognitive abilities from tool complexity because of the importance of sociality in generating tool complexity. ... To sharpen this point, consider whether the Polar Inuit of 1820 were smarter than the Polar Inuit of 1860. In 1820, they could make kayaks, fancy fishing spears, and compound bows. In 1860, they could not.

It seems that right-wingers in America are cutting themselves off from acquired knowledge and losing mental tools.

 

[Higus]

I dont know enough about Sowell to know if this is right or not

But @Rational Poster is 100% on about jlp

Sowell is a libertarian economist that promotes supply side economics. That should be enough to dismiss his opinion on most subjects. And boy, does he have a lot of opinions on a lot of subjects!
That said, he has an impressive resume, and he's not a dummy; he's just a hack.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't think I've heard Sowell weigh in on right-wing identity politics, he mostly comes off as a libertarian ideologue.
Then again I haven't heard from him lately, so maybe he's "evolved" with his party.

Some issues intersect there. Like, the idea that much lower average black wealth is a result of cultural pathologies rather than a history of legal obstacles to wealth accumulation.

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

One thing that is really funny about racists is that they think they're pulling a fast one by big-upping a person of the race they dislike who criticizes that race. Sorry, that's also still just racist.

Remember when this nutcase was the Tea Party's token black friend?

Sowell is also directly responsible for creating Clarence Thomas.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

If you're just talking Joe Sixpack, you can bothsides it, sure. Most people aren't obsessed with policy and political philosophy and shit, and thus come off as idiots when they discuss it. But among people who are, and pundits and politicians and staffers, the right is equally intellectually dead, and that's just not true of the left. One can just look at the presidential election (last and next) to illustrate the point, but also compare the most influential writers. And it's not just Trump. Pence is a moron, too. Or look at Congressional hearings. You might think that Democratic Congressfolk are much smarter, but I don't think that's it. I quoted this bit recently:



It seems that right-wingers in America are cutting themselves off from acquired knowledge and losing mental tools.

where does that quote come from? and it what context was it formulated?

 

[all caps]

Sowell is a libertarian economist that promotes supply side economics

I gotta be honest, none of that means one thing to me. Those are all voodoo words. I'm way more simple than that.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I gotta be honest, none of that means one thing to me. Those are all voodoo words. I'm way more simple than that.

yea, what the hell is "economics?"

 

[all caps]

I think he also spelled "librarian" wrong

 

[Higus]

I gotta be honest, none of that means one thing to me. Those are all voodoo words. I'm way more simple than that.

Replace "a libertarian economist" with "a politician that isn't elected" and "supply side economics" with "bullshit that everyone knows is bullshit"

 

[Jack V Savage]

where does that quote come from? and it what context was it formulated?

From Joseph Henrich's "The Secret of Our Success." Discussing kind of how the size of the community mind (which is determined by how large the community is and how well-connected it is) affects cultural evolution. My thinking is that distrust in the mainstream media and in academia is effectively shrinking the right-wing mind, and causing them to move backwards (forgetting things they used to know) in a way that is similar to the way physical separation led to certain societies seeing a regression in their technological advancement (including mental technology).

 

[Jack V Savage]

I like this new addition (unironically). Any guesses on a past username?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

From Joseph Henrich's "The Secret of Our Success." Discussing kind of how the size of the community mind (which is determined by how large the community is and how well-connected it is) affects cultural evolution. My thinking is that distrust in the mainstream media and in academia is effectively shrinking the right-wing mind, and causing them to move backwards (forgetting things they used to know) in a way that is similar to the way physical separation led to certain societies seeing a regression in their technological advancement (including mental technology).

Is this a book you read? do you recommend this?