War Room Lounge v63

[Falsedawn]

Bahahhaahah there it is folks. Good chatting you fucking dork.

But we all know how this goes. You post another stupid post about how socialism is actually big government and not literally a revolution of labor, i'm gonna post another meme (because i'm not devoting any more time to this shit), and you can go on to your goofy ass buddies about how you "owned" me in your own head.

EL CONCESSION, never change. I'll always own you.

Lmao, dance monkey!

 

[Prokofievian]

Dunno I'm not a big shia lebeouf fan

No. The indiana jones boots are made by the Alden Shoe company. Harrison Ford used to wear them in his job as a construction worker, which is hard to believe because they are quite fancy.

 

[Trotsky]

BOUGHT MY BED!

No more sleeping on a sofa/camping pad for me!!! In like 5-10 business days. Cause of shipping, and all that jazz.

I sincerely hope you made the right choice. I bought a mattress that I like but that makes me sweat in my sleep and have to change the sheets three times a week. In the process of returning it.

 

[Higus]

BOUGHT MY BED!

No more sleeping on a sofa/camping pad for me!!! In like 5-10 business days. Cause of shipping, and all that jazz.

What did you end up going with?

 

[Higus]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/15/japan-surpasses-china-as-largest-foreign-holder-of-us-treasurys.html

Japan surpassed China as the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury securities in June.

Japan has added about $21 billion since May, making its holdings the largest since October, 2016. Japan now holds $1.12 trillion Treasurys, and China has $1.11 trillion, a $2 billion increase from the month earlier, according to U.S. Treasury department data.

Is this some sort of long term play to make sure we have their back when China starts to land on their shores?

 

[Sara]

Grego why did you go so long without a bed?

 

[Trotsky]

What debates? Wouldn't he just be some bum with like 0.02% support, run a pathetic, futile two week campaign, and inevitably just drop out because nobody cares about him?

Granted, I'm not too familiar with how primarying a President works. I'd imagine you can't just declare you're running, and then just wind up on a main debate stage with him though.

If he declares, I would predict he'd be over 2% within a week.

I don't know what Sanford has to gain. Trump's obviously going to go after him for his affair and both Trump and his supporters will be genuinely immune to the irony of that since Trump has had countless ones himself. Trump will clown him because he'll have the crowd's support, which is all that matters. If the crowd could be trusted to act like adults, demand actual coherent answers, and not cheer when Trump acts like a child, it might be different.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Lmao, dance monkey!

"I'm not devoting energy into this" proceeds to devote energy until forced to answer questions.

What was that about being a monkey again?

 

[HereticBD]

If he declares, I would predict he'd be over 2% within a week.

I don't know what Sanford has to gain. Trump's obviously going to go after him for his affair and both Trump and his supporters will be genuinely immune to the irony of that since Trump has had countless ones himself. Trump will clown him because he'll have the crowd's support, which is all that matters. If the crowd could be trusted to act like adults, demand actual coherent answers, and not cheer when Trump acts like a child, it might be different.

Regardless of how you believe debates would go, my question was whether they'd even be in debates at all. 0.02%...2%...what does it matter? Surely not enough support to actually have debates with the 90%+ Republican approval President, right? If that was the case, I'd imagine you'd have people trying to selfishly primary the President all the time, just for the notoriety. You're an absolute nobody, but you get to challenge the President on anything resembling a main stage, just because you're officially running? That doesn't make much sense.

 

[Falsedawn]

"I'm not devoting energy into this" proceeds to devote energy until forced to answer questions.

What was that about being a monkey again?

You think goofing on you takes energy? Bless your heart.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You think goofing on you takes energy? Bless your heart.

He said as he proceeded to give energy.

It's ok man it happens to the best of us.

 

[Gregolian]

I sincerely hope you made the right choice. I bought a mattress that I like but that makes me sweat in my sleep and have to change the sheets three times a week. In the process of returning it.

I think I did, looked up a list for "beds for heavy sleepers" and read those write ups then looked at write ups about them.

Luckily with how the room I am in is set up the bed will be almost directly above the A/C vent which will help.

https://www.sleepadvisor.org/titan-mattress-review/

https://www.tuck.com/titan-mattress-review/

https://myslumberyard.com/mattress-reviews/titan-mattress-review-brooklyn-bedding/

What did you end up going with?

Titan from Brooklyn Bedding. Designed specifically for "running hot sleepers" and fat body sleepers like myself. Opted in for the "cooling top layer" or whatever as well.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Regardless of how you believe debates would go, my question was whether they'd even be in debates at all. 0.02%...2%...what does it matter? Surely not enough support to actually have debates with the 90%+ Republican approval President, right? If that was the case, I'd imagine you'd have people trying to selfishly primary the President all the time, just for the notoriety. You're an absolute nobody, but you get to challenge the President on anything resembling a main stage, just because you're officially running? That doesn't make much sense.

While polls show Trump's approval ratings in the 80s-90s among Republicans the polls also show that 40+% of Republicans want to see him face a challenge in the primary.

If the economy does hit a recession that number (already significant) could grow.

I don't think Trump would be required to debate Weld or Sanford but would his ego allow him to tuck tail and run from them? Maybe

 

[Jack V Savage]

You seem to be having an extremely difficult time seperating what Trump does with the existence of American conservatism. Like if Democrats haven't voted in some Communist to lead then does that mean that communism all of a sudden doesn't exist? You seem to be taking that approach for what ever reason.

Anyways, this doesn't take away from the fact that you cannot answer what American rightism even is. Why, for instance, are many European. Right wingers considered left by American standards? Why has Trump, for example, been criticised for not being a TRUE right winger? If you have such a wrap on this argument it really shouldn't be difficult to answer these relatively simple questions....no you just want to equate American rightism to Nazism which is the identarian Tom foolery you indulge in due to your partisan bias.

Go on answer it. I'll wait. Lawlz.

You guys's relationship appears too toxic to get a resolution here. Let me intervene. I don't think the first paragraph is really relevant to anything FD was saying. Many European right-wingers are considered left by American standards because there are inequality-reducing elements of their economic systems that are too popular for them to try to cut or they've genuinely accepted those elements as being good. Since the spectrum relates to one's position on inequality and hierarchy, those positions are left--in some cases, to the left of the more left-leaning party in America.

I haven't seen Trump criticized for not being a TRUE right-winger, though I have seen him criticized for not being a true conservative, which is different. Conservatives philosophically believe in the received, unstated wisdom of society and are thus cautious about making large or fast changes in society. That doesn't describe Trump. The movement has been moving toward favoring increasing American hegemony and has at least pretended to support balanced budgets, which also doesn't describe Trump. It's also favored stronger moral leadership, which also doesn't describe Trump.

Monarchy is the original right-wing cause, and Nazism is a kind of form of that. Obviously, the Nazis weren't big on the idea that we're all equal. American rightism is moving in that direction--before Trump but he does represent another step. There's a sense on the right that ethnic/racial demographic trends are dooming the GOP in fair democratic elections, and thus we need less democracy and we need to try to slow or ideally reverse some of those trends. These are obviously right-wing positions.

 

[HereticBD]

I don't think Trump would be required to debate Weld or Sanford but would his go allow him to tuck tail and run from them? Maybe

What would he be running from? That's silly logic. So if any Joe Blow throw their name in the hat, and if Trump doesn't debate them, it means he's scurred?

Absurd. Also, me thinks those polls don't make any sense. He's got 90% approval, but 40% of republicans want to see him primaried? For what reason would that be, if they approve of the job he's doing? Shits and giggles?

 

[Gregolian]

@Trotsky

I hear you on the coolness of a bed thing which is why this is the frame I have been targeting as well:
https://www.thuma.co/products/the-bed?variant=12320329400425

The thing is designed to allow air to circulate underneath it

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You guys's relationship appears too toxic to get a resolution here. Let me intervene. I don't think the first paragraph is really relevant to anything FD was saying. Many European right-wingers are considered left by American standards because there are inequality-reducing elements of their economic systems that are too popular for them to try to cut or they've genuinely accepted those elements as being good. Since the spectrum relates to one's position on inequality and hierarchy, those positions are left--in some cases, to the left of the more left-leaning party in America.

I haven't seen Trump criticized for not being a TRUE right-winger, though I have seen him criticized for not being a true conservative, which is different. Conservatives philosophically believe in the received, unstated wisdom of society and are thus cautious about making large or fast changes in society. That doesn't describe Trump. The movement has been moving toward favoring increasing American hegemony and has at least pretended to support balanced budgets, which also doesn't describe Trump. It's also favored stronger moral leadership, which also doesn't describe Trump.

Monarchy is the original right-wing cause, and Nazism is a kind of form of that. Obviously, the Nazis weren't big on the idea that we're all equal. American rightism is moving in that direction--before Trump but he does represent another step. There's a sense on the right that ethnic/racial demographic trends are dooming the GOP in fair democratic elections, and thus we need less democracy and we need to try to slow or ideally reverse some of those trends. These are obviously right-wing positions.

Wonderful post.

Currently I'm off to work but will respond to this later when I get home.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

What would he be running from? That's silly logic. So if any Joe Blow throw their name in the hat, and if Trump doesn't debate them, it means he's scurred?

Absurd. Also, me thinks those polls don't make any sense. He's got 90% approval, but 40% of republicans want to see him primaried? For what reason would that be, if they approve of the job he's doing? Shits and giggles?

Not any Joe Blow but if Sanford and Weld meet the requirements to get on the primary ballot they will be legit challengers. Sanford would likely taunt him for ducking.

An emotionally stable incumbent would probably ignore that but we're dealing with Trump here.

I don't know the reasoning behind the discrepancy in the poll numbers. Maybe they love the tax cuts and the judges but find Trump personally detestable. They figure they could get the same stuff done with another GOP President

 

[Lord Coke]

Good shoot or not? I personally think not

 

[HereticBD]

Not any Joe Blow but if Sanford and Weld meet the requirements to get on the primary ballot they will be legit challengers.

Legit? Technically, maybe. Realistically? No, they would not be legit challengers.

An emotionally stable incumbent would probably ignore that but we're dealing with Trump here.

He'd just tweet about them, before their very brief and sad campaigns ended.

I don't know the reasoning behind the discrepancy in the poll numbers. Maybe they love the tax cuts and the judges but find Trump personally detestable. They figure they could get the same stuff done with another GOP President

I don't buy it. Even if that was the case, most people are gonna stick with the devil they know.

Source for these primary challenge polls?