War Room Lounge V48: Everybody's a little racist, except me

[Limbo Pete]

Is this poetry I am sensing my beautiful flesh?

A flutter
A taste
A whisper

Spoiler

...magnificent

 

[BarryDillon]

 

[Higus]

Okay, but does it bother you when someone says they find a different race as their preference? Like white girls who prefer black men or white guys who prefer Asian women, Hispanic women who like white men, etc? I was speaking more about the characteristics I previously mentioned. I happen to like brown eyes, dislike green and blue eyes, and dislike blonde hair. That leaves a higher chance for me to be attracted to a larger proportion of one race too another. For someone else, liking blonde hair and blue eyes is going to give them a completely different proprotion then mine would look like. There’s also a cultural aspect to it. Like most white people want to tan as its generally seen as a more attractive complexion. In some Asian countries, they try to avoid the sun cause a paler complexion is seen as attractive. I don’t think it’s easy to lump into a box but I agree it would be weird if a white guy just said “I like white skinned women”.

In a vacuum, there isn’t anything wrong with saying you have a preference for one group over others. How you express that sentiment is where people trip up. Saying something like, I find group A attractive because they are generally more petite might ruffle some feathers, but would be mostly dissmissable. Saying something like, I would never marry someone from group B because I want my future kids to be high IQ is flat out unacceptable, imo.

 

[Lead]

In a vacuum, there isn’t anything wrong with saying you have a preference for one group over others. How you express that sentiment is where people trip up. Saying something like, I find group A attractive because they are generally more petite might ruffle some feathers, but would be mostly dissmissable. Saying something like, I would never marry someone from group B because I want my future kids to be high IQ is flat out unacceptable, imo.

Yea, my original post says it stays at physical characteristics and even at that, it’s hard to make an absolutist argument.

 

[Graves The Elder]

The ebony flesh is the most powerful, it takes quite some time to tenderize...

Dahmer much?

 

[Trotsky]

In a vacuum, there isn’t anything wrong with saying you have a preference for one group over others. How you express that sentiment is where people trip up. Saying something like, I find group A attractive because they are generally more petite might ruffle some feathers, but would be mostly dissmissable. Saying something like, I would never marry someone from group B because I want my future kids to be high IQ is flat out unacceptable, imo.

What if you say "I will only date someone from group C because I've been watching daytime television and now I'm obsessed with giant dicks."

 

[BarryDillon]

What if you say "I will only date someone from group C because I've been watching daytime television and now I'm obsessed with giant dicks."

 

[BarryDillon]

 

[Fedorable]

I was considering dating a black girl from Trinidad and Tobago with an English accent. Went to her apartment and was gonna watch horror movies from her bed. We went to my car to go rent some movies or get food (something) and my car was gone.

 

[essie]

bernie supporters are bad. change my mind.

 

[Fawlty]

Meh, I tend to agree with Hayes' take/concession. Carceral sites at a border for foreign citizens seeking to enter a country needs to be meaningfully distinguished from internal penal cities where a country's own citizens are rounded up as ne'er-do-wells and made to atone for their moral sins. Even if you think they are meaningfully similar (they are), I think it's both counterproductive as a matter of discourse (it gives the right firm ground on which to say "literally Hitler," etc. and describe the center/left as hysterical and dishonest) and pretty insulting to people who were legitimately put into concentration camps like gay Cubans, Japanese Americans, or, obviously, European Jews.

New word for me. I thought that was a type of big cat.

I also agree that "concentration camp" is too charged. "Internment camp" may be more appropriate and is also closer to the right note.

 

[Fawlty]

bernie supporters are bad. change my mind.

Michael Jackson bad or regular not-good-bad?

 

[essie]

Michael Jackson bad or regular not-good-bad?

not good.

 

[waiguoren]

bernie supporters are bad. change my mind.

My good buddy and childhood friend worked on the Sanders 2016 campaign. He's a good person and has debated @Jack V Savage once before.

Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Jimmy Dore, Gleen Greenwald, Noam Chomsky, Aaron Mate, Michael Tracy are all fine blokes in my book. They all support Sanders to my knowledge.

Keep in mind I disagree with most of Sanders's positions, so I don't think I'm being biased here.

My hypothesis is that most of the "Bernie bros" or "Bernie or bust" posts online are not from real people. I think people have blown it way out of proportion. I think a good test of this is: how many actual, real-life public figures have you seen espouse those views?

 

[Fawlty]

not good.

A lot of them are also #teamwarren but prefer Bernie. I think @BarryDillon and @Trotsky count there, and they're good dudes. The full-on "Bernie or bust" types are crap goblins though.

 

[Trotsky]

bernie supporters are bad. change my mind.

 

[essie]

A lot of them are also #teamwarren but prefer Bernie. I think @BarryDillon and @Trotsky count there, and they're good dudes. The full-on "Bernie or bust" types are crap goblins though.

they are already calling warren the new hillary. funny. it just seems like the chance to be idealistic and claim the moral high ground only exists for people of a certain stature. i won't use the word privilege because i dont want to melt people. you can say, i'm not voting because, for example, cory booker did this one thing back in 2003 and so he is the same as trump. it's fucking stupid. the inability to see nuance is childish. i dont say that about anyone in particular, mind you. the reason why trump will continue to win is his supporters are the least idealistic voters in the world. they don't give a fuck as long as its not a dem they will vote.

 

[essie]

My good buddy and childhood friend worked on the Sanders 2016 campaign. He's a good person and has debated @Jack V Savage once before.

Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Jimmy Dore, Gleen Greenwald, Noam Chomsky, Aaron Mate, Michael Tracy are all fine blokes in my book. They all support Sanders to my knowledge.

Keep in mind I disagree with most of Sanders's positions, so I don't think I'm being biased here.

My hypothesis is that most of the "Bernie bros" or "Bernie or bust" posts online are not from real people. I think people have blown it way out of proportion. I think a good test of this is: how many actual, real-life public figures have you seen espouse those views?

i disagree with a lot of those people being fine, but in particular i can't think of many people as poisonous as glenn greenwald. i also notice all of those people have something in common.

 

[senri]

Dahmer much?

You better stop with this....

 

[Fawlty]

they are already calling warren the new hillary. funny. it just seems like the chance to be idealistic and claim the moral high ground only exists for people of a certain stature. i won't use the word privilege because i dont want to melt people. you can say, i'm not voting because, for example, cory booker did this one thing back in 2003 and so he is the same as trump. it's fucking stupid. the inability to see nuance is childish. i dont say that about anyone in particular, mind you. the reason why trump will continue to win is his supporters are the least idealistic voters in the world. they don't give a fuck as long as its not a dem they will vote.

Gotta be kidding me, people calling Warren a new Hillary? I haven't heard that one yet. Gonna be a long primary. I think there's a damn good chance at getting rid of Trump even with those types making a lot of noise.