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War Room Lounge V43: STEM is Overrated

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Great piece.

On top of this we now have allies and potential allies fighting to fill China's needs. Brazil and Australia are trying to fill their agricultural import needs so when the trade war eventually ends US farmers are going to find they have been replaced for good.
The whole thing really makes no sense if one is trying to maximize the effectiveness of US trade. All the tariffs on Canada have done is force us to seek trading partners elsewhere. That helps us in the long run and does nothing but damage US trade.
 
The whole thing really makes no sense if one is trying to maximize the effectiveness of US trade. All the tariffs on Canada have done is force us to seek trading partners elsewhere. That helps us in the long run and does nothing but damage US trade.

Eh not really.

Being cutoff from the largest consumer base in the world is definitely going to hurt anyway you look at it.
 
Are you going by that absurd study that put nations that literally oppress women ahead of the US?
I'm going by this,
The Global Gender Gap Reportbenchmarks 144 countries on their progress towards gender parity across four thematic dimensions: Economic Participation and Opportunity, Educational Attainment, Health and Survival, and Political Empowerment.

I was responding to a shitpost with a hasty google search for a result I knew would exist before I looked. But I make no claims to the reliability of the report. It doesn't matter. The shitposter in question knows as well as I do it was entirely beside the point anyway, as you should if you're following the back and forth and not just drive-by shitposting as you usually do.
 
Eh not really.

Being cutoff from the largest consumer base in the world is definitely going to hurt anyway you look at it.
Just like earlier, I didn't say that either (and will you respond to that post by the way?) I didn't claim it wouldn't hurt; I said in the long run it helps us to be forced to diversify our trading partnerships and depend less upon exports/imports to/from the US, and it would similarly hurt the US, though perhaps less so, and therefore it is a pointless exercise for the US to impose sanctions on Canada.
 
That piece read/sounded like it was written by you. Not that it's a bad thing, but I thought it was interesting how it appeared to match your rhetorical style. It seems like an accurate description of the situation, except that for a non-economist like myself, it's hard to accept that the tariffs are less damaging than it appears.

I don't see it, but thanks.

I don't think I use the "But doesn't ---? Actually" formation, which I think he uses well (and I believe three times in that piece) but I'm not comfortable with. "Yes, X is important; but ... it's not important than Y." is something I probably use. He sprinkles more history in while making his points (and not in the Shapiro way, where the sprinkles are not relevant to the point and are just inserted to puff himself up--the sprinkles add to and illustrate the points). "But where Xes are Y, A is B" is a nice bit and not something I think I use (maybe I'll start, though!).
 
Let's find some healthy appreciation for women as human beings, yeah?



Yes, white women are objectified and dehumanized systematically and constantly. That's why you can't see a single story about a woman without getting a plethora of dumb shits talking about how they want to fuck them, how they are ugly, or how their opinions either stem from being ugly, are worth less than that of a prettier woman, or stem from wanting attention. Frankly, I think the open hostility toward women is more binding on the right wing here than just about anything else. Maybe second to hate Muslims.

Here's one that stuck out to me as particularly pathetic and incel-ian. It was in response to a story entitled "ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: MARIJUANA PROHIBITION HIT BLACK AND LATINO PEOPLE HARDEST SO THEY SHOULD PROFIT FROM LEGALIZATION FIRST"
As you can see, not exactly an on-point contribution.

Lol. That’s relevant
 
Lol. That’s relevant

You do get how that makes you look both immaturely stupid and sexually frustrated, though, right?

That's the stuff to generally seen from the bottom feeding posters here that you are generally a wrung or two above.
 
Just like earlier, I didn't say that either (and will you respond to that post by the way?) I didn't claim it wouldn't hurt; I said in the long run it helps us to be forced to diversify our trading partnerships and depend less upon exports/imports to/from the US, and it would similarly hurt the US, though perhaps less so, and therefore it is a pointless exercise for the US to impose sanctions on Canada.

I don't really have anything to add to the other post that I didn't cover in my initial response
 
I don't really have anything to add to the other post that I didn't cover in my initial response
Well it seems as though a lot of money is spent lobbying representatives of the US government on behalf of their counterparts in Israel. What do you think all that money is intended to accomplish--or do you have any information to suggest that first sentence is inaccurate? I have no antagonistic intentions here, btw. I'm honestly curious. I'm trying to get a handle on whether one can establish the legitimacy of Omar's complaints and/or the merits of the accusations against her. Much of what I have seen suggests a conflation of criticism of the government of Israel and criticism against Jews but I can see how that could be tinged with bias and preconception and I am trying to sort out those shades of gray. At the same time, I am a little baffled by the so-called dual loyalty controversy since the first time I ever heard of it was in reference to her comments. I think this kind of thinking is anti-immigrant at its core whether it refers to Jews or any other ethnic group of immigrants (to the US, in this case), but whether this is what she intended or only that it was imputed to her, I don't know. I have had a very difficult time finding the text of the exact comments she made that caused the uproar. All I can find when I look is commentary and analysis about what she is perceived to have said.

Anyone got a source that shows the precise comments by her that lead to all the accusations of anti-Semitic beliefs?
 
You do get how that makes you look both immaturely stupid and sexually frustrated, though, right?

That's the stuff to generally seen from the bottom feeding posters here that you are generally a wrung or two above.
I think you give him too much credit. I don't have many on my ignore list (because they keep getting banned) but that one ended up there a while back.
 
At the same time, I am a little baffled by the so-called dual loyalty controversy since the first time I ever heard of it was in reference to her comments.
Am I understanding you correctly - you havent heard of the dual citizenship issue in our government until recently? And, are you saying its racist to bring it up, you don't believe it to be true, or?
 
You do get how that makes you look both immaturely stupid and sexually frustrated, though, right?

That's the stuff to generally seen from the bottom feeding posters here that you are generally a wrung or two above.

Oh cmon Trots,

You had to be just as shocked as the rest of America when we learned who her long time boyfriend is.

We have to assume she catches a ton of heat from the indentitarian left bc of who she dates.
 
Am I understanding you correctly - you havent heard of the dual citizenship issue in our government until recently? And, are you saying its racist to bring it up, you don't believe it to be true, or?
Not dual citizenship. Dual loyalty. The accusation that some/many/all (take your pick) Jews living in the US may have questionable loyalty to the US because of a devotion to Israel. But this is in a country where loyalty pledges seem to be becoming commonplace, at least among (ahem) a certain segment of the population. My lack of understanding of this topic goes hand in hand with my total ignorance of what the "Jewish Question" is, and for which I have never received a satisfactory answer from people who trot it out (so long banned sucka). But I digress. I think this sort of thinking is the road to McCarthyism. What I am mainly claiming ignorance of is what Omar said specifically to suggest questionable loyalties among members of the government based upon their citizenship.

And no, I wasn't aware there was any sort of battle going on over dual citizenship either, to be honest.
 
Not dual citizenship. Dual loyalty. The accusation that some/many/all (take your pick) Jews living in the US may have questionable loyalty to the US because of a devotion to Israel. But this is in a country where loyalty pledges seem to be becoming commonplace, at least among (ahem) a certain segment of the population. My lack of understanding of this topic goes hand in hand with my total ignorance of what the "Jewish Question" is, and for which I have never received a satisfactory answer from people who trot it out (so long banned sucka). But I digress. I think this sort of thinking is the road to McCarthyism. What I am mainly claiming ignorance of is what Omar said specifically to suggest questionable loyalties among members of the government based upon their citizenship.

And no, I wasn't aware there was any sort of battle going on over dual citizenship either, to be honest.
If I could give you some advice it would be to not let yourself go down this rabbit hole.
 
What's wrong with Gatsby as a book? It's overrated in the fact that its symbolism is way too telegraphed, but it's still good.

Modern Library ranked it as the No. 2 novel of the 20th century so it would be pretty hard to be anything but overrated or properly rated (I think it's pretty close to properly rated). But what do you mean about the symbolism?
 
Oh cmon Trots,

You had to be just as shocked as the rest of America when we learned who her long time boyfriend is.

We have to assume she catches a ton of heat from the indentitarian left bc of who she dates.

Who is he?
 
Lol Sage Northcutt got knocked out by a man named Cosmo.

Modern Library ranked it as the No. 2 novel of the 20th century so it would be pretty hard to be anything but overrated or properly rated (I think it's pretty close to properly rated). But what do you mean about the symbolism?

Yes, of course, of course. As far as the symbolism.....all of it is extremely telegraphed: the green light (the jealous longing for money, love lost, the American dream), the East/West Egg (old/new money), the valley of ashes (the proletariat underclass), etc. Even as a high schooler, I thought, "wow, this is really dumbed down."
 
Lol Sage Northcutt got knocked out by a man named Cosmo.



Yes, of course, of course. As far as the symbolism.....all of it is extremely telegraphed: the green light (the jealous longing for money, love lost, the American dream), the East/West Egg (old/new money), the valley of ashes (the proletariat underclass), etc. Even as a high schooler, I thought, "wow, this is really dumbed down."

In all fairness, Cosmo Alexandre is an absolutely legit striker. They set Sage up for failure. First you put him in a ring, then you throw him to a guy that was up there with the top Thais at one point in his career. Dude was primed to get starched.
 
Oh cmon Trots,

You had to be just as shocked as the rest of America when we learned who her long time boyfriend is.

We have to assume she catches a ton of heat from the indentitarian left bc of who she dates.

Why? You mean because of his looks? No, I don't think the "indentitarian" left cares at all that she is dating an average looking guy. She's average looking herself. And, frankly, I generally presume that those who are foaming to sexualize her have never been with an relatively attractive woman. But even if I was for some reason preoccupied with why she didn't make a more shallow choice of a partner, I wouldn't express that curiosity by talking about them having sex and about him cumming inside her.
 
If I could give you some advice it would be to not let yourself go down this rabbit hole.
Perhaps so, but a simple factual answer to my last sentence in that post would be sufficient for me to ruminate on for now. The thing is, I've found lots of people referencing it, for good or ill, but I'm having an awful hard time locating the precise remarks people are concerned about. That raises a red flag in my thinking.
 
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