War Room Lounge v154: People don't realize how many people had to die just for the eight hour day

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AgonyandIrony said:
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I find it so upsetting. Using prison labor to undermine unionization efforts is a massive hurdle that just got so much higher.
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I was just watching a new lincoln project video about Kamala and Biden, and when they talked about Kamala and showed her on screen they said she has a "Passion for justice"

I completely lost it
 
It is literally un-arguable. If Floyd spent his morning doing something else besides being a piece of shit criminal, there would be hundreds of black men without bullet holes in them.
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When the Europeans encountered you eating each other and selling your neighbors into slavery, you didnt have the wheel nor a written language.
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Whatever whites did hundreds or thousands of years ago is irrelevant.
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What history? Yall couldn't write it down
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Violence, bad.

Racism, all good.
 
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Limbo Pete said:
I'm sure somewhere in Asia there's a plum tree hiding a short, nude man with binoculars trained on the neighbors house
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Is waiguren short?

MMAisGod said:
You're not the blind eye type.
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Thanks. My major contention here is that most of her issues aren't a matter of either political ideology or personal failings, and the areas where she receives the most flack are areas where she is distinctly, unarguably to the right of the median Democrat. As I mentioned to Greg, I am personally very hostile to persons who support a larger framework of right-wing policy but then criticize liberal figures who wade into that policy in certain areas: largely because, if Harris adopted a more lenient, understanding, and rehabilitative approach to the job, she would be lambasted by the right who want stiff prison sentences, criminals off the street, and no more coddling thugs.

-Stepdaughter says he raped her.
-Mom says daughter is a liar.
-Prosecuter held back evidence that proves his innocence, stated by judge.
-Reaches Court of Appeals
-Harris and team fight it.
-Judge moves case to mediation. Gage had not raised the proper legal issue being his own lawyer. Expectations are it will now be dismissed.
-Harris goes all in to challenge, ensuring innocent man remains in prison on a technicality.

Everyone and their grandma came out in protest about this at the time from activist to celebs, hell YOU probably protested it, but to Kamala no big deal as long as we move on and forget. Now for her it's a nope nothing to talk about issue. Explain to me how this is "just being a lawyer"? This isn't a purity test deal either, her history is jam-packed with examples like this. Last thing people with zero morality need is more power to show off their zero morality.
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I'm actually not familiar with the case. I imagine it's something that I would need to spend a lot of time on.

If your description is correct (the operative part being that "evidence that proves his innocence"), it's a miscarriage of justice. If the evidence definitively proved he could not be guilty, Harris should have intervened to drop the State's charges. While the blame would lay more largely on the individual prosecutors overseeing the case, I do subscribe to the "buck stops here" mentality specifically for prosecutors. In the case that it's not so cut-and-dry, it is the State's Attorney's job to zealously represent the position of the state: the fiduciary responsibility isn't quite so strong as that of the defense attorney, but it's still there.

Now, assuming the worst from all of that, I don't advocate that we "just forget" about it. I do, however, advocate that we place it in the context of the election, both with regard to the past moral and ethical failings of Trump/Pence (Pence's are underrated, as he's not only an anti-science religious zealot, but he's extremely corrupt) but also with regard to the expected policy results. Even with Harris's suspect judgment, what can we expect from the Biden/Harris administration versus what can we expect from the Trump/Pence administration. Do we really think that Harris will be anywhere near as opaque, dishonest, and corrupt? I, for one, don't think that's even a remote possibility given both what I know about them all and what I know about the structures for accountability in the two parties.
 
skysolo said:
You get the test done?
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Yeah, Friday. Whole family came back negative, so it must have been a caretaker or nurse.

Andy Capp said:
Ah man, my heart goes out to you. Going to go buy beer and drink it if that's any kind of commiseration.

Take care of yourself. Rest and rant at us tomorrow.
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I'll tip one with you brother.
 
Jack V Savage said:
It seems way premature to even talk about any policy impact. To quote John Adams: "My country in its wisdom has contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived. ... I can do neither good nor evil." VPs usually do have some responsibilities given to them now (Biden headed Obama's transition team, worked as a kind of liaison among the cabinet, oversaw the Iraq situation, and ran the oversight of the stimulus spending, among other things), but I haven't seen Biden say exactly what he wants Harris to do if he wins. Given his background and hers, I'd be very surprised if she had anything major to do with foreign policy.
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Good point. Has Pence done fuck all? VPs as anything other than who you're trying to waive at are vastly overrated. Even when they're given something to do, it's not like they go rogue and do their own thing.

Not pointing fingers at anyone here but had Biden picked, say, Warren, some (not all, to be fair) of the same people would be calling it insincere. Which would be a correct assessment imo.

The only angle I can kind of see is succession, i.e. this is who we've got in case Biden drops dead. Which isn't out of the question for someone as old as he is.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
That's a big oof from me. Any chance the DSA can start making headway?


Eiffel 65- I'm blue lol. I actually feel bad because y'all took it so seriously. Funny thing is, I'm not even an ACAB guy despite how it comes across.
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Every time I hear ACAB I think of the 4Skins whom I am pretty sure were fn dodgy.
 
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BEER said:
The last decade was rough, and a huge downward spiral. It was so rough to watch, and it's crazy that I was probably still a teenager the last time he was "himself".

He lived his life post-war busting his ass so he could live a modest life with his wife and 3 kids. He was a good man.
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.... to a life well lived
 
Sketch said:
I was just watching a new lincoln project video about Kamala and Biden, and when they talked about Kamala and showed her on screen they said she has a "Passion for justice"

I completely lost it
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But doesn't that depend on how we define "justice?"

If by "justice" we mean "using the full power of the DA's office to buttfuck anyone within the orbit of the law," well then I'd say she's pretty passionate about it.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Someone tried telling me that this will just be a return to the Clinton years and couldn't understand why I took such an issue with that idea. So much progress, lost, fuck man not even weed is going to be legalized lol.

I'm heartbroken by this new reality.
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So Canada?
 
Darkballs said:
Which reminds me, he once raged at me, I mean truly raged, because I referred to him as a pygmy. I don't even know why I choose that word to describe him. It just seemed to fit.
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Yeeeeeah he's definitely a manlet. Maybe even sub-manlet.
 
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