War Room Lounge v148: all tip and no shaft

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Do you goofs ever talk about something interesting?

Anyways I was shocked Trump could throw around a baseball with the GOAT Mariano with any efficiency. Looked like he palmed the ball a bit weird ...maybe with a little technique he could throw some knucklers

Fauci on the other hand pulled a 50 cent and thought home plate was the home dugout

I give you the greatest first pitch ever though. God bless this man

 
Lead said:
Definitely. A lot of commentating has stupid stuff like that thrown in where they try to be psychologists. Sports is over-analyzed in a lot of ways with that being one of them.
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Agreed. But to be fair, I really only watch MMA, where I think choking is probably the most overplayed excuse ever.

I do not know how it pertains to a post like baseball where I assume it is like a guy has the game on his shoulders and strikes out, the commentators will say he choked, where in reality he just batted to his average.
 
PalmaSoriano said:
Do you goofs ever talk about something interesting?

Anyways I was shocked Trump could throw around a baseball with the GOAT Mariano with any efficiency. Looked like he palmed the ball a bit weird ...maybe with a little technique he could throw some knucklers

Fauci on the other hand pulled a 50 cent and thought home plate was the home dugout

I give you the greatest first pitch ever though. God bless this man

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Thanks for letting is know who you are in one post.
 
Lead said:
Closest thing I’d replace it with is something like game management cause people usually associate it with a comeback or making a play when it’s needed. Do you believe choking is something? Because if so, I’d say clutch is simply the absence of choking.
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Performance doesn't vary predictably by individual on the basis of apparent importance of the situation. So, like, if someone's wOBA overall is .350, any attempt to improve the accuracy of your expectation for him by including a "clutch factor" (e.g., this guy's a choker and it's a tie game in the ninth, so he should be downgraded to .340) will fail.

Of course, you can't disprove that any particular event is "clutch." Say a guy hits a HR every 20 ABs, and it's a key situation, and he hits one. Is that because a 1/20 chance came through or because he "stepped up in the clutch"? Can't tell. But you can say that if you give him 1,000 more ABs in the same situation over the course of his life, he's not going to hit 1,000 HRs, and about 50 is the best guess.
 
Sycho Sid said:
Agreed. But to be fair, I really only watch MMA, where I think choking is probably the most overplayed excuse ever.

I do not know how it pertains to a post like baseball where I assume it is like a guy has the game on his shoulders and strikes out, the commentators will say he choked, where in reality he just batted to his average.
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In MMA, I could see it being possible when someone debuts in a big promotion but even then, it would be super hard to distinguish at that time if they did choke which again makes it pointless to use. I only watch MMA and football. I would say football uses clutch more than choked but that might just be them not trying to insult a player having a bad game.
 
Sara said:
I actually quite like it, but I think (not 100% sure) they hired a Korean actor to play the Chinese father.
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That part doesn’t actually bother me a ton but the way the 47 Robin movie had a very Chinese aesthetic to the castles and shit bothered me.

Same with that Great Wall movie with Matt Damon saving the day.
 
Jack V Savage said:
Performance doesn't vary predictably by individual on the basis of apparent importance of the situation. So, like, if someone's wOBA overall is .350, any attempt to improve the accuracy of your expectation for him by including a "clutch factor" (e.g., this guy's a choker and it's a tie game in the ninth, so he should be downgraded to .340) will fail.

Of course, you can't disprove that any particular event is "clutch." Say a guy hits a HR every 20 ABs, and it's a key situation, and he hits one. Is that because a 1/20 chance came through or because he "stepped up in the clutch"? Can't tell. But you can say that if you give him 1,000 more ABs in the same situation over the course of his life, he's not going to hit 1,000 HRs, and about 50 is the best guess.
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Yea, I suppose we are saying similar things. I’m just saying if a player already handles situations well, then in those moments people consider clutch/choke, they are nearly experiencing the same performance they see throughout the game and just focusing on a part they find important. I think football allows for the illusion far more because you’ll get a present type defense if the other team needs to march down the field and get a touchdown. People think the QB is running up a huge streak all of the sudden to win the game but part of that is the other teams awareness of not giving up the big play.
 
Sycho Sid said:
Was the best line in there.

Tonni's magnum opus
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I’ll take it under advisement

did Greg have any great one liners? He may need to moral boost more than Tonni
 
Jack V Savage said:
It's a term that is used. Not a thing that exists.
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If we're still talking about this, I need to point out I had in mind individual sports, mainly. Clearly, in baseball, with 9 players in multiple positions and playing so many games in a season, at the very top of the sport, any variation due to something amorphous like confidence will surely get washed out whether it exists or not.

But looking at individual contests, MMA, billiards, golf, the effects of such variation are far more clear, IMO. Consider the case of Greg Norman in golf. At one time, he spent 331 weeks as the number one player in the world, won 89 times, yet in the majors he went 2 for 91.
 
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