Social War Room Lounge Thread #325: PotWR Edition

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I didn’t say that. You should always self reflect. The GOP didn’t which is how we got Trump again. I would have bet a LARGE amount he was done for after 2020.
But if someone is a good pick just by virtue of winning, then you run the risk of not understanding how winning now can translate into a loss later. And if we are talking strictly about the party, Presidential elections can and do have big down ballot consequences that go differently from the executive race, not to mention the effect it has on midterms
 
And if they did you still wouldn't vote Democrat.

Or maybe Biden thought that was the best decision? I don’t think there's an obviously right answer here and if anything the idea of rubbing an American primary and presidential campaign in 100 days is the crazier take imo.

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Wow
 
But if someone is a good pick just by virtue of winning, then you run the risk of not understanding how winning now can translate into a loss later. And if we are talking strictly about the party, Presidential elections can and do have big down ballot consequences that go differently from the executive race, not to mention the effect it has on midterms
Yes and clearly Kamala had a terrible down ballot effect.

The point is to always be reflective. If someone loses, they were a bad pick. The goal is to win. ITT you have Islam saying that Kamala was good and the democrats don’t need to reflect on her loss.
 
You know, losing (and it was even the popular vote this time and not just the evil and racist EC) to a 34x convicted felon orange con man should tell the average person that Kamala was indeed a bad candidate.

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Wow what?
Yes and clearly Kamala had a terrible down ballot effect.

The point is to always be reflective. If someone loses, they were a bad pick. The goal is to win. ITT you have Islam saying that Kamala was good and the democrats don’t need to reflect on her loss.
Where did I say that? Didn't I say the opposite here?
No they should change strategy, even if only the branding, but they shouldn't accept bad faith critiques from people like you who would never vote for them when the chips are down.
 
Yes and clearly Kamala had a terrible down ballot effect.

The point is to always be reflective. If someone loses, they were a bad pick. The goal is to win. ITT you have Islam saying that Kamala was good and the democrats don’t need to reflect on her loss.
But what I'm saying is that you can win a race and still be a bad pick for any number of reasons, and furthermore it can take plenty of time for that to become understood. The overall effect on the party isn't 100% dependent upon the top of the ticket winning or losing, and certainly not the effect on our country in general.
 
Sure but they were often the votes that kept the fiscally conservative portion of the party in power.

I won't bullshit myself or anyone. The fiscally conservative side of the GOP leveraged the bigotry of the anti-minority crowd and the zealotry of the religious right to win elections. That was the devil's bargain.

Reality has caught up to us and the fringes took over the party instead of staying on the fringes, lol.
I still think most Americans are somewhat in the middle. It doesn't matter to me who you vote for. You're free to do that. But just like when people think the left is the fringe left with all the nonsense...Most voting Democrat are not for child Transitions, abortions in the 9th month, 100 genders etc.
 
Can you do @HereticBD ? He might complain the sample size is too small but let's see if the results are exactly what everyone would expect. Thanks in advance if you're able to.
I don't think that's gonna be the first time he's had a problem with the size of something being too small ayyyyy
 
Can you do @HereticBD ? He might complain the sample size is too small but let's see if the results are exactly what everyone would expect. Thanks in advance if you're able to.

@HereticBD

🧠 Profile of the Poster

1. Sentiment & Tone Analysis​

CategoryAssessment
PolitenessExtremely Low. This poster is openly hostile, mocking, and often abusive. Insults are frequent, sometimes targeted at groups (e.g., “leftists,” “retards”) and individuals alike.
KindnessAbsent. There is no discernible effort at compassion or respectful engagement. Tone consistently reflects contempt, dehumanization, and moral derision.
AngerVery High. The poster exhibits sustained rage across multiple topics — immigration, Democrats, social change, media, and political opponents.
ToneAggressive, contemptuous, and conspiratorial. Tone varies from gloating to paranoid, often using inflammatory rhetoric and ridicule to dominate rather than debate.
EmpathyNone visible. There is no concern for opposing perspectives, and human suffering is often dismissed or mocked. Disagreement is equated with stupidity or moral failure.
Verdict: Deeply antagonistic and consumed by grievance. Engages primarily to insult, provoke, and belittle. The poster’s tone is tribal, absolutist, and overtly hostile to civil or rational discourse.

2. Intelligence Estimation​

  • Language Use:
    Crude but fluent. Sentence structures are coherent, and sarcasm is sharp. However, discourse is filled with slurs, juvenile insults, and gleeful vulgarity. Expresses ideas clearly but without nuance or intellectual structure.
  • Argumentation:
    Poor.
    Rarely provides reasoned evidence or logical frameworks. Claims are often blanket assertions, delivered with aggressive certainty. Frequently resorts to ad hominem, strawman arguments, and conspiratorial claims.
  • Analytical Depth:
    Low.
    Displays minimal effort to engage with policy complexity or systemic nuance. Instead, arguments are reductive, emotionally driven, and rooted in us-vs-them identity warfare.
Estimated Intelligence: Moderate.
While linguistically capable and clearly familiar with political narratives, this poster opts for emotional dominance and aggression over rational discourse. Displays street-level savvy but little critical thinking or depth.

🧭 Ideological Orientation

Left–Right Spectrum​

EvidenceLeaning
Endorses hardline anti-immigration and anti-liberal stancesFar-Right
Uses derogatory language toward Democrats, civil rights, and progressive valuesHard-Right
Pushes conspiracy-adjacent claims (e.g., “preemptive pardons,” election fraud, child abuse conspiracies)Reactionary Right
Frames political opponents as “mentally ill,” “evil,” or “traitorous”Authoritarian populism
Assessment: Far-Right Reactionary
This user engages in militant right-wing rhetoric, with a focus on humiliation, cultural dominance, and anti-leftist fervor. Little distinction is made between mainstream liberals and “enemy combatants.” The tone evokes a siege mentality.

Authoritarian–Libertarian Spectrum​

EvidenceLeaning
Advocates extreme punitive state actions against political enemiesAuthoritarian
Calls for banning entire platforms, criminalizing opponents, and endorses violenceHard-Authoritarian
Frames political disagreement as betrayal deserving punishment or repressionProto-fascist rhetoric
Supports strongman politics, downplays due process, and celebrates crueltyAnti-democratic authoritarianism
Assessment: Hard Authoritarian
The poster exhibits authoritarian instincts cloaked in populist rage. There is no trust in pluralism, negotiation, or institutional constraint. Political power is viewed as a weapon to be wielded, not a trust to be debated.

🎭 Archetype Match
“The Aggrieved Reactionary”

Fueled by perceived cultural loss, this archetype lashes out with contempt at a world they believe has been overrun by weakness, degeneracy, and betrayal. Debates are not for persuasion — they are battlegrounds. Uses dehumanization, ridicule, and apocalyptic predictions to rally the like-minded and shame opponents into submission. Sees themselves as a lone realist in a sea of sheep.

⚖️ Summary Table
TraitAssessment
PolitenessExtremely Low — openly hostile
Rudeness/KindnessAbusive and confrontational with no effort at kindness
Anger LevelVery High — often gleefully so
Intellectual DepthLow to Moderate — capable but uninterested in complexity
Political LeaningFar-Right Reactionary
Authority PreferenceHard Authoritarian — celebrates domination and punishment
 
I still think most Americans are somewhat in the middle. It doesn't matter to me who you vote for. You're free to do that. But just like when people think the left is the fringe left with all the nonsense...Most voting Democrat are not for child Transitions, abortions in the 9th month, 100 genders etc.
But I'm not talking about the voters. I'm talking about the people in charge of the party itself.

I'm a former elected Republican. I used to go to meetings and talk with the local leadership. Some of the first GOP leaders I met? Gay. Minorities. Plenty of white males and females of course but a fairly inclusive group overall. The messaging coming out of the party now doesn't match what was being said before.
 
@HereticBD

🧠 Profile of the Poster

1. Sentiment & Tone Analysis​

CategoryAssessment
PolitenessExtremely Low. This poster is openly hostile, mocking, and often abusive. Insults are frequent, sometimes targeted at groups (e.g., “leftists,” “retards”) and individuals alike.
KindnessAbsent. There is no discernible effort at compassion or respectful engagement. Tone consistently reflects contempt, dehumanization, and moral derision.
AngerVery High. The poster exhibits sustained rage across multiple topics — immigration, Democrats, social change, media, and political opponents.
ToneAggressive, contemptuous, and conspiratorial. Tone varies from gloating to paranoid, often using inflammatory rhetoric and ridicule to dominate rather than debate.
EmpathyNone visible. There is no concern for opposing perspectives, and human suffering is often dismissed or mocked. Disagreement is equated with stupidity or moral failure.
Verdict: Deeply antagonistic and consumed by grievance. Engages primarily to insult, provoke, and belittle. The poster’s tone is tribal, absolutist, and overtly hostile to civil or rational discourse.

2. Intelligence Estimation​

  • Language Use:
    Crude but fluent. Sentence structures are coherent, and sarcasm is sharp. However, discourse is filled with slurs, juvenile insults, and gleeful vulgarity. Expresses ideas clearly but without nuance or intellectual structure.
  • Argumentation:
    Poor.
    Rarely provides reasoned evidence or logical frameworks. Claims are often blanket assertions, delivered with aggressive certainty. Frequently resorts to ad hominem, strawman arguments, and conspiratorial claims.
  • Analytical Depth:
    Low.
    Displays minimal effort to engage with policy complexity or systemic nuance. Instead, arguments are reductive, emotionally driven, and rooted in us-vs-them identity warfare.
Estimated Intelligence: Moderate.
While linguistically capable and clearly familiar with political narratives, this poster opts for emotional dominance and aggression over rational discourse. Displays street-level savvy but little critical thinking or depth.

🧭 Ideological Orientation

Left–Right Spectrum​

EvidenceLeaning
Endorses hardline anti-immigration and anti-liberal stancesFar-Right
Uses derogatory language toward Democrats, civil rights, and progressive valuesHard-Right
Pushes conspiracy-adjacent claims (e.g., “preemptive pardons,” election fraud, child abuse conspiracies)Reactionary Right
Frames political opponents as “mentally ill,” “evil,” or “traitorous”Authoritarian populism
Assessment: Far-Right Reactionary
This user engages in militant right-wing rhetoric, with a focus on humiliation, cultural dominance, and anti-leftist fervor. Little distinction is made between mainstream liberals and “enemy combatants.” The tone evokes a siege mentality.

Authoritarian–Libertarian Spectrum​

EvidenceLeaning
Advocates extreme punitive state actions against political enemiesAuthoritarian
Calls for banning entire platforms, criminalizing opponents, and endorses violenceHard-Authoritarian
Frames political disagreement as betrayal deserving punishment or repressionProto-fascist rhetoric
Supports strongman politics, downplays due process, and celebrates crueltyAnti-democratic authoritarianism
Assessment: Hard Authoritarian
The poster exhibits authoritarian instincts cloaked in populist rage. There is no trust in pluralism, negotiation, or institutional constraint. Political power is viewed as a weapon to be wielded, not a trust to be debated.

🎭 Archetype Match
“The Aggrieved Reactionary”

Fueled by perceived cultural loss, this archetype lashes out with contempt at a world they believe has been overrun by weakness, degeneracy, and betrayal. Debates are not for persuasion — they are battlegrounds. Uses dehumanization, ridicule, and apocalyptic predictions to rally the like-minded and shame opponents into submission. Sees themselves as a lone realist in a sea of sheep.

⚖️ Summary Table
TraitAssessment
PolitenessExtremely Low — openly hostile
Rudeness/KindnessAbusive and confrontational with no effort at kindness
Anger LevelVery High — often gleefully so
Intellectual DepthLow to Moderate — capable but uninterested in complexity
Political LeaningFar-Right Reactionary
Authority PreferenceHard Authoritarian — celebrates domination and punishment
You don't say? <mma4>

Thanks, Neph, no surprise here or why he dismissed them off hand. He might have low to moderate intelligence but he knew his results would be something like this.

@Mr Holmes yours looks like it was for the Pope compared to this one. 😁
 
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