War Room Longue V. 73: Royal Rumble

[Higus]

Cabbage turnip with ground meat and whip cream.

Peak Teutonic cuisine?

 

[Falsedawn]

It's not really a concession on anything but professionalism. What constitutes "natural" hair, and should there be any limits on it, whether it's a black guy with a 3 foot afro, or a white guy with hair down to their ass? When is it okay to ask them to look professional and cut it, because they have a business meeting coming up, and appearances do matter?

Is it just a free for all now?

Natural black hair isn't unprofessional.

If you knew how much time some of these hairstyles took for maintenance, you might reconsider what exactly constitutes unprofessional. A white guy with 3 feet long hair is not the same as a black guy with a high flat top. That comparison is just asinine, yet people make the connection out of nothing more than wanting to control what other people are doing.

 

[Higus]

Natural black hair isn't unprofessional.

If you knew how much time some of these hairstyles took for maintenance, you might reconsider what exactly constitutes unprofessional. A white guy with 3 feet long hair is not the same as a black guy with a high flat top. That comparison is just asinine, yet people make the connection out of nothing more than wanting to control what other people are doing.

link to this hair thread? I might stir the drink

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's not really a concession on anything but professionalism. What constitutes "natural" hair, and should there be any limits on it, whether it's a black guy with a 3 foot afro, or a white guy with hair down to their ass? When is it okay to ask them to look professional and cut it, because they have a business meeting coming up, and appearances do matter?

Is it just a free for all now?

I don't know the specifics of the law and I bet details like that will be hashed out in court over the years. But no I don't think its a free for all, I think all it means is that a company cannot deem a protective hairstyle inherently unprofessional. That doesn't mean that you can get away with a crazy hairstyle just because it happens to be a protective one as well. So if you have rainbow colored cornrows that can probably be deemed unprofessional but not merely on the basis of being cornrows. Or for instance if there's a rule that limits the length of a man's hair that should also apply to protective hairstyles for black men but they should be allowed to have such hairstyles so long as they're within the rules, they shouldn't be categorically deemed unprofessional.

And I don't see it as a concession on professionalism, I don't see what's wrong or unprofessional about black hairstyles.

 

[Falsedawn]

@HereticBD

This was an example of a hairstyle that's supposedly unprofessional, and the comparison pic was some dude with just a raw unstyled grow.

Just looking at this guy's lineup tells me he's meticulous about his hair's appearance. You don't get that from just letting your shit grow for a month.

 

[Falsedawn]

link to this hair thread? I might stir the drink

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...mination-based-on-natural-hairstyles.4023375/

 

[TeTe]

Well at least he doesn't seem to have a thing for scat porn, which seems unusually common here.

Can't just post normal porn, gotta go grossing everyone out in the process.

Bastards.

 

[MMAisGod]

@HereticBD

This was an example of a hairstyle that's supposedly unprofessional, and the comparison pic was some dude with just a raw unstyled grow.

Just looking at this guy's lineup tells me he's meticulous about his hair's appearance. You don't get that from just letting your shit grow for a month.

A dude shows up with that hairstyle to work for my team, and I'm not hiring him. That goes for a white dude with a fresh mohawk too. It's just not happening.

 

[Andy Capp]

More evidence Vietnamese is God's language.


Why are some languages spoken faster than others?
https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...prGllxqSn4XRkVGvn6NO-PJv7gAllL-kIh6WxMkUwOyTk

New research suggests that different tongues, regardless of speed, transmit information at roughly the same rate

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Sep 28th 2019
WERE THIS article written in Japanese, it would be longer. A Thai translation, meanwhile, would be shorter. And yet those reading it aloud, in either language or in its original English, would finish at roughly the same time. This peculiar phenomenon is the subject of new research which finds that languages face a trade-off between complexity and speed. Those packed with information are spoken slower, while simpler ones are spoken faster. As a result, most languages are equally efficient at conveying information.

In a study published this month in Science Advances, Christophe Coupé, Yoon Mi Oh, Dan Dediu and François Pellegrino start by quantifying the information density of 17 Eurasian languages, as measured by the ease with which each syllable can be guessed based on the preceding one. Next, they record the rate at which 170 native speakers read 15 texts out loud. Finally, armed with data about the information contained in a piece of text and the speed at which it can be spoken, the authors derive the rate at which information is communicated.

This appears to back my belief that Japanese is an extremely easy language to learn relative to most others. With less information per syllable, there is less need to understand complex background context, unlike say, colloquial English which now has expressions such as "because reasons." On the other hand, I know absolutely nothing about Vietnamese, but looking at that chart, I don't think I will attempt to learn it at this late stage.

 

[Falsedawn]

A dude shows up with that hairstyle to work for my team, and I'm not hiring him. That goes for a white dude with a fresh mohawk too. It's just not happening.

I probably wouldn't want to work for you, tbh.

I got my first corporate job with dreadlocks literally down to the small of my back. Judging someone based on their hairstyle is a great way of telling people you're not very good at assessing their talent.

As a talented individual, any organization that can't recognize my talent isn't somewhere I'd care to be. Y'all have a funny way of misusing assets.

 

[HereticBD]

Natural black hair isn't unprofessional.

It depends. Just like natural white hair. Like I said, a 3 foot afro is "natural". Is it not okay to ask the guy to trim it down so he's not such an eyesore?

If you knew how much time some of these hairstyles took for maintenance, you might reconsider what exactly constitutes unprofessional. A white guy with 3 feet long hair is not the same as a black guy with a high flat top. That comparison is just asinine, yet people make the connection out of nothing more than wanting to control what other people are doing.

Just because it takes time and skill for certain styles, it doesn't mean they are professional looking in all settings. A punker spiked out style takes time and effort. It doesn't make it professional.

"Professional" is subjective anyways, which is part of my point. Are companies not allowed to have any standards on appearances at all now, because there is no actual definitive term of "professional looking"? Just let it all hang out, and try to close deals with Willie Nelson, and Kid n Play in your entourage?

 

[Deleted member 539235]

Natural black hair isn't unprofessional.

If you knew how much time some of these hairstyles took for maintenance, you might reconsider what exactly constitutes unprofessional. A white guy with 3 feet long hair is not the same as a black guy with a high flat top. That comparison is just asinine, yet people make the connection out of nothing more than wanting to control what other people are doing.

mate he called dreadlocks lazy, don't bother lol

i'm only

 

[TeTe]

I do think visible piercings and tattoos are unprofessional though. For me if its a tattoo you can cover up with a short sleeve shirt its fine. So basically, no neck tats or sleeves/forearm tats.

It's a bit normal in the tech world though, especially if you aren't in a customer facing position. Hair isn't a big deal as long as you take of it, but I can see why people would be put off by face tats or gaudy face piercings.

But hey, it's 2019. I work for the fifth largest tech company in the world and have long hair just past my shoulders although I tie it up in a bun at work. Got hired no problem with my hair like that. I have no tats or piercings though.

Region probably matters though. The workplace environment differs quite a bit in here in California as opposed to Chicago where I'm from. In SoCal they're just happy to have someone with drive and career goals that isn't going to be a flake.

At the end of the day, if you are amazing at your job, it's amazing what people let slide.

 

[Gregolian]

I hate this fucking world.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/new...Cj6AYSArdnoWSCBU_CBPYcJPYkU3R0FEi-J2Hg6K0Be-k

@Gregolian @Fawlty

Someone want to plan a with me?

 

[Falsedawn]

It depends. Just like natural white hair. Like I said, a 3 foot afro is "natural". Is it not okay to ask the guy to trim it down so he's not such an eyesore?



Just because it takes time and skill for certain styles, it doesn't mean they are professional looking in all settings. A punker spiked out style takes time and effort. It doesn't make it professional.

"Professional" is subjective anyways, which is part of my point. Are companies not allowed to have any standards on appearances at all now, because there is no actual definitive term of "professional looking"? Just let it all hang out, and try to close deals with Willie Nelson, and Kid n Play in your entourage?

Why do you jump to three foot afros as if the scope of hairstyles under question isn't exponentially wider?

Oh yeah, because that argument doesn't make sense when it's a finger curl lmao.

The ignorance, I tell ya.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

mate he called dreadlocks lazy, don't bother lol

i'm only

*i'm only 1/4 black, not kinky but super wavy haired and in my youth the thought of dreads crossed my mind. looking into the work and maintence shut that shit down QUICK

 

[Islam Imamate]

It depends. Just like natural white hair. Like I said, a 3 foot Afro is "natural". Is it not okay to ask the guy to trim it down so he's not such an eyesore?

Its one thing to set standards that can be enforced upon both whites and blacks and another to simply say that hairstyles that are better suited for black people are inherently unprofessional.

In the case of your example I think its okay to tell a black person to keep their Afro a certain length but not okay to say they're not allowed to have an Afro at all.

 

[HereticBD]

Why do you jump to three foot afros as if the scope of hairstyles under question isn't exponentially wider?

Because it applies. Why are you ducking and dodging to avoid addressing the potential issues that may arise by making such a ruling? "Natural" hair is very broad spectrum.

 

[Falsedawn]

mate he called dreadlocks lazy, don't bother lol

i'm only

I tried to correct him in the last thread about the fundamental differences between kinky hair dreads and straight hair dreads, but he decided he knew better than someone who maintained them for the better part of a decade.

And now he's in here talking about three foot afros like every black dude is secretly plotting to gain height via hair follicles.

 

[MMAisGod]

I probably wouldn't want to work for you, tbh.

I got my first corporate job with dreadlocks literally down to the small of my back. Judging someone based on their hairstyle is a great way of telling people you're not very good at assessing their talent.

As a talented individual, any organization that can't recognize my talent isn't somewhere I'd care to be. Y'all have a funny way of misusing assets.

I mean yea, you could be the absolute most talented worker on the team, but I am going to have a certain level of judgement based on your appearance in the corporate atmosphere. I have hired a guy with dreads before, but he/it was very "fresh" as was his appearance and demeanor. That hairstyle in that pic if I'm being blunt looks ghetto to me.

When I conduct interviews, it is more than just the on-paper qualifications, school, etc. I judge based off of their word choice, body language, appearance as well. If I see a guy with that haircut they already start one notch down in my book. It isn't racial, as like I mentioned if I see a white guy come in with a Mohawk I'm probably not hiring him either. Appearance is a big deal for me for a number of reasons.