Wanderlei Silva gets lifetime ban

[TheWolfsHowl]

Lawyer.



My Lexis access doesn't cover Nevada, and Google isn't helping much. Here's the rub: If Silva wasn't licensed at the time, he may be able to argue a lack of jurisdicition. It really depends on how the statute reads.

Interesting. He may well be able to make that argument. I hope he does. Even if he stays retired, he should have that blemish removed from his record. He's a legend and shouldn't be shafted by the NSAC like that.

Did they even have the jurisdiction to test him? He should not have run away, definitely. But I'm wondering about their jurisdiction here, since they seem to have granted themselves a whole lot of authority (including outside the US for fighters not currently licensed with them).

 

[KSchwarz]

"A fighter showing intention to fight" simply has to be enough if there's going to be any serious effort to address PED use. Fighters need to be able to take fights and be licensed on short notice, or injuries would completely wipe out most cards rather than merely degrade them like they do now, but if fighters could just tacitly commit to a fight months beforehand and then not apply for a license until a week before the fight and thereby avoid pretty much all in-camp testing that would amount to a loophole that would effectively end enforcement.

Instead of "licensing" fighters the way they do, for single bouts, the commission should have some kind of contract, permanent license, or anything like this, that gave them the right of testing fighters whenever they wanted. It's more of a flaw in the commission's system. Nothing wrong about having jurisdiction over fighters when they're not fighting. But it must be clearly stated somewhere, and not based on "it seems he's gonna fight".

 

[iwhoopedbatman]

Do you even sarcasm, bro?

Damn it. Getting my sensors replaced is going to be expensive. Its not like im an nsac commissioner here.

 

[daprodigal2]

i think the lifetime ban is a little harsh. but i guess it's just a ban from fighting las vegas. he isn't suspended from fighting anywhere else that would grant him a fight license.

NSAC is just like NFL's goodall. they either do nothing at all or they go overboard.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Fuck the NSAC. I hope Wand doesn't pay them a dime.

Wand is the man.

Yea, do they have legal grounds to collect from either Wandy or Chael?
Both won't compete again, and the commission is not a Law Enforcement or state/federal government Judiciary body.
What if Wand/Chael refuse to pay?

 

[countswagula]

But he was in Las Vegas promoting the fight. They certainly have "personal jurisdiction" over him, the question is whether the legislature intended to give the NSAC authority over fighters that have yet to actually receive their license. I doubt Wanderlei will prevail on this argument, but you never know.

He wasn't promoting the fight in LA as far as I'm aware, nor had he applied for a license yet. If we are to believe Chael, he hadn't even signed the contract for the fight(keywords: If we are to believe Chael).

 

[IThinkNot]

chael,overeem,bigfoot,etc,etc all these guys get a suspension but wanderlei gets lifetime ban?? what a joke.

 

[Pious]

wand did this to himself by running away. if he had just pissed hot he'd just be suspended for a year most likely.

he'll always be a legend of the sport, but the fact remains that he fled a random drug test. i'm not defending the NSAC's lifetime ban or the fine (good luck enforcing that) but you have to expect you'll be punished severely for pulling a stunt like that.

 

[KoreanZawmbie]

Lol @ Wandy..

 

[Timurd123]

He saw the writing on the wall and retired before they could give him his life time bad

 

[Iwearspeedos]

No precedence for this. Should have warned fighters that from now on if you refuse a test you will be banned for life. Should have banned Wand 2 years like Chael. They are setting an example with Wanderlei.

Again....no precedence. Overeem ran and got a 9 month suspension. That is it.

Bullshit decision. Give him 2 years (which is still harsh) at the most and then announce "From this day forward if you run you will have a lifetime ban"


Commission:

Commisioner to Overeem: Overeem, you ran but we like you and you are polite so you only get a 9 month ban.

Commisioner to Wanderlei: Wanderlei, even though there is no precedence we are giving you a lifetime ban for your 1st offense.

Bunch of clowns

Exactly what I

 

[tasticles]

No precedence for this. Should have warned fighters that from now on if you refuse a test you will be banned for life. Should have banned Wand 2 years like Chael. They are setting an example with Wanderlei.

Again....no precedence. Overeem ran and got a 9 month suspension. That is it.

Bullshit decision. Give him 2 years (which is still harsh) at the most and then announce "From this day forward if you run you will have a lifetime ban"


Commission:

Commisioner to Overeem: Overeem, you ran but we like you and you are polite so you only get a 9 month ban.

Commisioner to Wanderlei: Wanderlei, even though there is no precedence we are giving you a lifetime ban for your 1st offense.

Bunch of clowns

I love Wand as much as the next fan, but I believe he is the first to actually run from a drug test in history. Correct me if i'm wrong. That isn't behavior you want to encourage. Oh shit, i'm gonna piss hot! oh well, i will just not go.

 

[RonMachineGunJhun]

I think its really really harsh. I feel like it will be appealed just dont see it ending like that.
Especially after the Overeem ruling too. Actually wouldnt be surprised if the UFC has more sway over NSAC now that Kizer isnt there and after Wanderlei's video

 

[RockUmSockUm]

He used 'audacity' properly.

By its definition sure, but in the context he used it incorrectly. Wand simply rolled all his beef into one beefroll and fed it to the UFC/NSAC/haters in one shot.

PEDs are a part of the fight game. The UFC forces its fighters to train hard and fight, to the detriment of the fighters' health and well-being, while paying them pennies. So they take PEDs so they can recover, train, and perform. Then they get in trouble with the ACs and the UFC throws them under the bus for being cheats or for not making weight.

 

[7437]

Had Wand not announced his retirement, they would just give him one or two years. TS faked his test, which is as grave as running from NSAC, if not worse, and just got one year.

Since Wand won't fight anymore, it doesn't make much of a difference and they don't need any mercy.

Now... how enforceable is the fine? It would be funny as hell if Wand decided he "misses Brazil" and dodged the fine too.

you seem confused as to how banks work.

 

[Kneeuinthenutz]

I'm not in anyway suggesting that running from a drug test should go with no penalties. It most obviously should, and very stern penalties.

Banning Wand for life is nothing short of a joke. I have absolutely no faith this new NAC has any idea what it's doing.

 

[InsideLegKick]

The issue here isn't that they were too harsh on Wanderlei. People who run from test should receive an indefinite ban.

The issue is that Overeem, Sonnen, etc weren't dealt with harshly enough. Both Chael and Overeem should have received indefinite bans, as well...and I've swung from both of Sonnen's meaty clackers...

 

[Iwearspeedos]

No precedence for this. Should have warned fighters that from now on if you refuse a test you will be banned for life. Should have banned Wand 2 years like Chael. They are setting an example with Wanderlei.

Again....no precedence. Overeem ran and got a 9 month suspension. That is it.

Bullshit decision. Give him 2 years (which is still harsh) at the most and then announce "From this day forward if you run you will have a lifetime ban"


Commission:

Commisioner to Overeem: Overeem, you ran but we like you and you are polite so you only get a 9 month ban.

Commisioner to Wanderlei: Wanderlei, even though there is no precedence we are giving you a lifetime ban for your 1st offense.

Bunch of clowns

Exactly what this guys said.

Not a big fan of Wanderlei or PED-users but this is so fucking ridiculous it's really laughable.

 

[aker2703]

Yep.

Overeem...you ran so you only get a 9 month ban because we like you and you are polite.

Wanderlei....with no precedence we are giving you a lifetime ban for your 1st offense.

Bunch of clowns

Overeem came back and took the test idiot.


WAAH all you want.......fucking awesome decision.

 

[Boom_Ba_Ye]

"A fighter showing intention to fight" simply has to be enough if there's going to be any serious effort to address PED use. Fighters need to be able to take fights and be licensed on short notice, or injuries would completely wipe out most cards rather than merely degrade them like they do now, but if fighters could just tacitly commit to a fight months beforehand and then not apply for a license until a week before the fight and thereby avoid pretty much all in-camp testing that would amount to a loophole that would effectively end enforcement.

It's hard to argue that Wanderlei was even showing the intention to fight in the first place. Just as Chael.