Volk is Undisputed Featherweight GOAT

[Westbrick]

While in his prime he got smoked by Holloway and McGregor. How can he have a better resume? He has more names on his resume thats it.

You really think Aldo was in his peak against Conor or MAX?

Bro was out of prime against TKZ, literally the fight he fucked up his right foot and stopped kicking forever.

Saying this as someone who have watched each Aldo fight ever more than 5x

 

[jeff7b9]

Volk fought Holloway three times because Holloway was the #1 contender and Volk beat everyone. 2/3 of their fights weren't close at all, including the first one.

They fought 3x, zero finishes and the first two were competitive.

If Volk put that 50-45 beating on Max the first time, or stopped him, there would likely not have needed to be 15 rounds between them.


Contrast that to how Aldo vanquished the champs he took over for.

Mike Thomas Brown who fought Aldo riding 3 title wins wound up face down back mounted getting his head pummeled thru the mat.

Faber, the champ before him got his leg absolutely mangled like something out of a Hollywood prop department.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Aldo against other FW GOAT contenders:

0-1 McGregor KO 13 seconds
0-2 Holloway TKO round 3
0-3 Holloway TKO round 3
0-4 Volkanovski UD

but he's a Sherdog darling so he's definitely still #1 innit

 

[TheNewGame]

Aldo against other FW GOAT contenders:

0-1 McGregor KO 13 seconds
0-2 Holloway TKO round 3
0-3 Holloway TKO round 3
0-4 Volkanovski UD

but he's a Sherdog darling so he's definitely still #1 innit

When Volk starts to decline around 30 fights in, he'll start to lose to GOAT contenders too.

Oh wait what's this

 

[L0ki]

Love Aldo, but its time to admit Volk takes the crown.

Volk's less TD's(possibly), but resume is FAR better than Aldo's and its not even close:
3x Holloway
Lopes
Aldo
Mendes
Ortega
Yair
+ Many More

Reading the list like that, Holloway and Aldo are the really good ones.

Ortega and Yair are tough but the jury is still out and I'm not sure where Mendes was when he fought Volk. He had been out years, came back and split a W and L and bounced (left too soon at 31 years old, imo).

Aldo had prime Mendes, Edgar, KZ, Faber, Brown, Cub. The Vera and Buatista decisions are pretty debatable.

Outside of that, Aldo's losses are all champions save the very early loss.

Volk has the better record numbers but Aldo's still has more substance.

Aldo has lost more than Volk, too, so that also needs to be factored in.

It's pretty close.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Recency bias in GOAT discussions cracks me up

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Also 2 x champ and champ at 36.

 

[markg171]

Ok, again, when Volk is unbeaten for 10 years come see me...wait...I guess that can't happen

Awkward.

Note too how the losses were at WW and LW, divisions he has no business being in.

 

[tat2man5k]

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Awkward.

Note too how the losses were at WW and LW, divisions he has no business being in.

Not sure why it's awkward but ok tough guy. Anyway, I already acknowledged that so please read all posts before trying to be such a hardass

 

[Thatlookinhiseyes]

This x2
Also lost against the other GOAT contenders and he wasn't old

In mma fighting years he was old, remember he became best in the world at 23, volks first fight was at 23.

 

[Thatlookinhiseyes]

Absolutely terrible take. Volk was as timid as Carlos condit when he fought Diaz. All he did last night was expose the terrible juding and exposed that he’s afraid to stand in the pocket. All he did was throw pitty patter strikes the whole night and run. Sad to see what he’s become.

How is that terrible judging? At best you can give rounds 2 +4 to lopes, volk still clearly took 3 rounds.

 

[Gabe]

Blind title defenses shouldn't be the be-it end all.

Resume of who it was against should matter.
3x Max Holloway alone is better than anybody Aldo has beaten.

Aldo's best win is Mendes at best in his "domination" and has lost to virtually every other championship FW fighter.

His best win is Edgar x2 and that’s as close to Holloway as you can get. After that it’s Faber and Brown both of whom were in their prime. Then Mendes who he beat twice.

 

[Black9]

Reading the list like that, Holloway and Aldo are the really good ones.

Ortega and Yair are tough but the jury is still out and I'm not sure where Mendes was when he fought Volk. He had been out years, came back and split a W and L and bounced (left too soon at 31 years old, imo).

Aldo had prime Mendes, Edgar, KZ, Faber, Brown, Cub. The Vera and Buatista decisions are pretty debatable.

Outside of that, Aldo's losses are all champions save the very early loss.

Volk has the better record numbers but Aldo's still has more substance.

Aldo has lost more than Volk, too, so that also needs to be factored in.

It's pretty close.

If you look at Volks only losses (aside from the early loss).
It's against 2 potential all-time greats in Islam(w/ 1 being Islam's hardest/closest fight ever) & Topuria.

Aldo's resume pales in comparison in terms of all-time great wins. As i said previously the 3x Max wins alone is better than all of Aldo's wins combined historically adding the fact that he beat virtually every other all-time FW great(aside from Topuria possibly) of his era/previous era and winning fighters of the next era.

That should warrant him as the the greatest FW.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

In mma fighting years he was old, remember he became best in the world at 23, volks first fight was at 23.

This must make jones the undisputed goat, as he too was best in the world at 23 and still near the top

 

[Subline]

Aldo still has +4 ranked wins and +4 title wins, these stats aren't everything but the average level of competition is close enough for them to matter. I believe a win over Movsar would tip the scales towards Volk being the FW GOAT, but for now it's still Aldo, imo.

 

[orca]

Volk would beat everyone Aldo beat. The other way around i very much doubt Aldo would beat all the guys on Volks resume. Volk is better.

you cant just say he would beat them all
thats a decade of you being number 1 and all the other guys are watching and studying you

only aldo and jones achieved that
thats harder than being said

 

[Westbrick]

Aldo against other FW GOAT contenders:

0-1 McGregor KO 13 seconds
0-2 Holloway TKO round 3
0-3 Holloway TKO round 3
0-4 Volkanovski UD

but he's a Sherdog darling so he's definitely still #1 innit

The only 65kg GOAT contender Aldo fought in his prime was Faber.

Conor ain't a GOAT contender, and Aldo resumé is still better than Max or Volk at FW.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Aldo doesn't just have an arbitrary 10 defenses. He beat elite fighters. Mike Brown, Uriah Faber, Kenny Florian, and Frankie Edgar are serious competition. His "depth" wins would be considered top wins for other guys ATGs like Mendes, Korean Zombie, Manny.

The only 65kg GOAT contender Aldo fought in his prime was Faber.

Conor ain't a GOAT contender, and Aldo resumé is still better than Max or Volk at FW.

The guy probably thinks Faber sucks because he never won the UFC title.

 

[L0ki]

If you look at Volks only losses (aside from the early loss).
It's against 2 potential all-time greats in Islam(w/ 1 being Islam's hardest/closest fight ever) & Topuria.

Aldo's resume pales in comparison in terms of all-time great wins. As i said previously the 3x Max wins alone is better than all of Aldo's wins combined historically adding the fact that he beat virtually every other all-time FW great(aside from Topuria possibly) of his era/previous era and winning fighters of the next era.

That should warrant him as the the greatest FW.

If you say Max is a bigger win than all of Aldo's wins combined, then you're using "all time-great wins" in the wrong context.

It just sounds like recency bias.

Mendes was a bigger win than Max was, at the time.

Which one is FW GOAT is very close, I just want to point out that saying "Max is a bigger win than all of Aldo's combined" is way off.

 

[Pierce 34]

He passed Aldo already, Max might have too