Hot Take Could Volk be considered the GOAT with a second win over Lopes + Evloev?

[Limit Smasher]

Volk already is the 145 GOAT

 

[gosuasus]

We still discussing GOAT in 2026?



You'd think people move from puberty topics to real thing.

 

[BFoe]

What would volk need to do to surpass Aldo in your eyes?

Could he even? He hasn’t surpassed Aldo at ranked wins, title wins, or title defenses and Aldo set those numbers in one reign. Volk is a beast but Aldo is too far ahead in accomplishments at FW.

 

[Subline]

Jones moved up and became champ and never lost except by DQ at LHW. Volk is not close to Jones in the goat discussion. 145 goat sure, but not all-round goat.

He has a bad loss to Topuria. GSP has avenged all the losses on his record. Jones has no real losses on his record.

Jones has a clear unavenged loss to Reyes though, it's an indisputable 48-47 Reyes to any objective viewer.

Losing to Reyes by decision, who went on to get slumped 3 times back to back (including a loss to Ryan Spann), is a worse look than getting KOd by Ilia, who went on to be a double champ who was P4P no. 1 for a time, and the first man to KO Holloway.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Goat curry taste good. I like volk. He's into food.

Im 100% carribean, and i will say curry goat is the best carribean dish there is.

 

[fortheo]

Could he even? He hasn’t surpassed Aldo at ranked wins, title wins, or title defenses and Aldo set those numbers in one reign. Volk is a beast but Aldo is too far ahead in accomplishments at FW.

That's why I'm asking. I want to see what people think he'd need to do to surpass aldo. Like lay out the fights he needs to win. I definitely don't see him catching aldo on the numbers, especially since he only fought once last year.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Nope. Not as long as Illia draws breathe

 

[Dr. Rose]

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Something that a lot of people are not talking about is the opportunity Volk has to really elevate his case for GOAT in 2026.
I know the fight game is unpredictable, but this is a highly feasible outcome and I'm sure the majority are actually favoring Volk to beat Lopes + Murphy/Evloev winner.

Should he rack up these two wins, where would you place him on the GOAT list?
I would make the argument that his resume would be stronger than the current consensus GOAT... Jon Jones.

• Volk's only loss at FW is to Ilia, which is much less of a slight than losing to Dominick Reyes at LHW.
• Volk had to fight a GOAT in Islam for double champ, gave him his toughest fight. Jones got the HW strap handed to him with the Gane fight, Stipe fight counts for naught.
• Volk's win over 2022 Max is the equivalent of Jones' against 2015 DC, both guys have similar standings in their division, maybe DC slightly more, Volk won more dominantly.
• Volk's 30-27 over Aldo is more notable than Jones' R2 TKO of Shogun, Aldo is the more legendary fighter and had a stronger standing in the UFC after these respective fights.
• Volk's win over 2019 + 2020 Max are more notable than any of Jones' remaining title wins.
• Volk's win against 2018 Mendes is more impressive than Jones' against 2018 Gus, considering Gus lost to Anthony Smith mere months later.
• 10 fight win streak Evloev/Murphy would be a better title defense than any of Jones'.

You seem to be mistaken on Reyes. I am sure the stats says a "W."

Whether we agree with that or not is really irrelevant.

 

[orca]

Jones has a clear unavenged loss to Reyes though, it's an indisputable 48-47 Reyes to any objective viewer.

Losing to Reyes by decision, who went on to get slumped 3 times back to back (including a loss to Ryan Spann), is a worse look than getting KOd by Ilia, who went on to be a double champ who was P4P no. 1 for a time, and the first man to KO Holloway.

do you want me to post jones resume
so that you could see he only lost once via re arranging another mans face
we could debate about other fighters like gsp or fedor having fights that where too close like the hendricks fight

bottom line he only lost once
he has won 17 titles
no memes of him gettikg ko'd and tapping to strikes

 

[Thy]

Im 100% carribean, and i will say curry goat is the best carribean dish there is.

Nice! goat goes so well with curry, cause the strong flavors of the 2 stand up against each other well. I love the fatty parts when they render down and mix in real well. Soooo good.

I dunno too much about carribean food. I do love seafood. I'm guessing there's a bunch of ceviche kind of things too. Is conch popular there? I loooove conch, but it's not popular by me so it's hard to find.

 

[Fight Professor]

Jones has a clear unavenged loss to Reyes though, it's an indisputable 48-47 Reyes to any objective viewer.

Losing to Reyes by decision, who went on to get slumped 3 times back to back (including a loss to Ryan Spann), is a worse look than getting KOd by Ilia, who went on to be a double champ who was P4P no. 1 for a time, and the first man to KO Holloway.

Fights are judged by the athletic commissions not fans.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Nice! goat goes so well with curry, cause the strong flavors of the 2 stand up against each other well. I love the fatty parts when they render down and mix in real well. Soooo good.

I dunno too much about carribean food. I do love seafood. I'm guessing there's a bunch of ceviche kind of things too. Is conch popular there? I loooove conch, but it's not popular by me so it's hard to find.

Yeah, actually the roti place by be does serve conch, and it's popular out that way but here (canada) it's seasonal and you can only get it sometimes apparently. I've never had it. It's not cheap.

 

[kkthx]

not even close, and i'm talking 145 and not overall lol

 

[Preston broadus]

Hes on the goat list that has 100 people on it

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

What would volk need to do to surpass Aldo in your eyes?

A win over movsar would go quite a ways. Let's say he beats Lopes and then Murphy and or Evloev, he'd be pretty hard to argue at that point.

 

[Thy]

Yeah, actually the roti place by be does serve conch, and it's popular out that way but here (canada) it's seasonal and you can only get it sometimes apparently. I've never had it. It's not cheap.

Dang, yea i hear ya. It gets cheaper as u get closer down that way. Atleast u still got tons of good food.

 

[BFoe]

That's why I'm asking. I want to see what people think he'd need to do to surpass aldo. Like lay out the fights he needs to win. I definitely don't see him catching aldo on the numbers, especially since he only fought once last year.

Ah I see
My feeling on it is that if Volk put together another crazy string of defenses, then at some point we might have to consider if all his defenses across two reigns are greater than all of Aldo’s in one reign, but he would need like 5+ defenses or something. There’s just no way that happens.

 

[jeff7b9]

10 title wins is pretty much the price of entry and he is at 7. (7-3)

This is old. I think Jones got to 16









Fedor won 18 straight with the biggest target in the sport on his back.

He is closing the gap. You can make an argument that he had caught Jose Aljo for 145 goat but you will rightly get push back because it is debatable.

He hasn't got there.

2 more title wins would help.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

Still have Volk at #2 behind Aldo, his duration and domination of all comers with all time epic performances would be very hard to duplicate.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

I thought you were talking about only men's Featherweight... this is a horrible thread.... Volk isn't even close ... he's not top 10 all time all weight classes