Rumored Usyk vs Wilder - April/May in the US

HuskySamoan said:
Didn't Usyk already beat Joe Joyce in like a weird semi pro thing?
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Yeah and he clowned him. A 12 round fight would look exactly the same, usyks gas tank is even better than big Joe’s, and it’s still the most interesting of the other 2 options. I think Warren will likely match up fury and Joyce next so I doubt usyk gets to fight him first
 
Jonny Ninja said:
Yeah and he clowned him. A 12 round fight would look exactly the same, usyks gas tank is even better than big Joe’s, and it’s still the most interesting of the other 2 options. I think Warren will likely match up fury and Joyce next so I doubt usyk gets to fight him first
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Usyk is a good bit older than Fury, they might be waiting this one at Fury headquarters until they see him start to slip up and look bad.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Usyk is a good bit older than Fury, they might be waiting this one at Fury headquarters until they see him start to slip up and look bad.
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I think it’s very likely fury falls off before usyk does even if he is slightly older. That last wilder fight probably took as much out of fury as usyks last few. Usyk has almost no miles on the clock relatively speaking.

factor in how these guys live between fights as well. Usyk lives and breathes boxing, we know fury doesn’t. I think fury is already past his peak. He looked sloppy in the last wilder fight, and chisora/Whyte are tough plodders that Tyson can beat beat on an off night with his right hand tied behind his back. If they are gonna fight then the sooner the better for fury imo
 
Jonny Ninja said:
I think it’s very likely fury falls off before usyk does even if he is slightly older. That last wilder fight probably took as much out of fury as usyks last few. Usyk has almost no miles on the clock relatively speaking.

factor in how these guys live between fights as well. Usyk lives and breathes boxing, we know fury doesn’t. I think fury is already past his peak. He looked sloppy in the last wilder fight, and chisora/Whyte are tough plodders that Tyson can beat beat on an off night with his right hand tied behind his back. If they are gonna fight then the sooner the better for fury imo
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I'm skeptical, at 36 Usyk has plenty of miles considering his hundreds of amateur fights before turning pro. We also can't be sure of his injury history. He's 36 to Furys 33 and unless Usyk retires very soon I think there's a a good chance we will see the size and power difference catch up if he keeps taking hard fights. Fury is rich and a celebrity at this point, I don't think he's the confident hungry man he once was.
 
HuskySamoan said:
I'm skeptical, at 36 Usyk has plenty of miles considering his hundreds of amateur fights before turning pro. We also can't be sure of his injury history. He's 36 to Furys 33 and unless Usyk retires very soon I think there's a a good chance we will see the size and power difference catch up if he keeps taking hard fights. Fury is rich and a celebrity at this point, I don't think he's the confident hungry man he once was.
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furys 35 in august. There’s only 18 month difference and Usyk hasn’t lost a step yet. Fury on the other hand hasn’t looked the same the last 3 fights imo. The longer this fight is left, the more detrimental it is to Tysons chances of winning. I think usyk beats him right now as well. He does everything fury does well, but better.

i think a fight further down the line will be almost impossible to make. If they fight next year is fury gonna still be the a side? He hardly ever fights. Usyk said he’ll only accept 70/30 if the fight on April 29th. This is the only chance this fight ever gets made
 
Jonny Ninja said:
furys 35 in august. There’s only 18 month difference and Usyk hasn’t lost a step yet. Fury on the other hand hasn’t looked the same the last 3 fights imo. The longer this fight is left, the more detrimental it is to Tysons chances of winning. I think usyk beats him right now as well. He does everything fury does well, but better.

i think a fight further down the line will be almost impossible to make. If they fight next year is fury gonna still be the a side. He hardly ever fights. Usyk said he’ll only accept 70/30 if the fight on April 29th. This is the only chance this fight ever gets made
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Smaller age gap than I had thought, my bad.
 
Usyk fights Wilder
Wilder wins thanks to a big right hand knockout.
Wilder and Fury 4 to unify the belts.
 
Usyk-Wilder would be a great fight.
Potential 12 rounds of waiting for the big one to land, and it will land. The question is how will Usyk handle it?
 
GeneTunney7 said:
Wow. Usyk super dangerous fight. Can he KO Wilder? Every body Wilder ever fought he connects with and they go down. But can Usyk get back up? I got Wilder here and don't think people realize how good Fury is, and by extension Wilder.
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height doesnt help you think. fury should be a higher weightclass but theres not much competition
 
Jonny Ninja said:
furys 35 in august. There’s only 18 month difference and Usyk hasn’t lost a step yet. Fury on the other hand hasn’t looked the same the last 3 fights imo. The longer this fight is left, the more detrimental it is to Tysons chances of winning. I think usyk beats him right now as well. He does everything fury does well, but better.

i think a fight further down the line will be almost impossible to make. If they fight next year is fury gonna still be the a side? He hardly ever fights. Usyk said he’ll only accept 70/30 if the fight on April 29th. This is the only chance this fight ever gets made
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Hasnt looked the same the last three fights haha. You were probably screaming 'wallin won it was a tko, if a bum like him can do that to him wilder will kill him this time'. Afterwards hes been ducking whyte for ages if he takes the fight hell die. And now hes way past his prime and his last three fights were shit. Wow, so much delussional hate.
 
Jonny Ninja said:
Yeah and he clowned him. A 12 round fight would look exactly the same, usyks gas tank is even better than big Joe’s, and it’s still the most interesting of the other 2 options. I think Warren will likely match up fury and Joyce next so I doubt usyk gets to fight him first
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I don't think Fury will fight Joyce. I don't think Fury fancies it. But if they do fight i am pretty confident Joyce drowns Fury. Would defo put money on it if i could get good odds. He will just kill him with his pace. I actually think Fury is the easiest match up for Joyce out of wilder, joshua, usyk and Fury.
 
purpleheart said:
Hasnt looked the same the last three fights haha. You were probably screaming 'wallin won it was a tko, if a bum like him can do that to him wilder will kill him this time'. Afterwards hes been ducking whyte for ages if he takes the fight hell die. And now hes way past his prime and his last three fights were shit. Wow, so much delussional hate.
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not at all. I was a fury fan back then. His win over wallin was legit and his draw was home town cooking.

Do you think fury looked good in the 3rd wilder fight? He went life and death with a guy he destroyed previously. His last 2 fights were against tough polders that he could beat on an off night with just his left hand tbh. If you think he’s looked super impressive these last 3 fights, then good for you. I think we’ve seen the best of fury in the 2nd wilder fight.
 
Mickf said:
I don't think Fury will fight Joyce. I don't think Fury fancies it. But if they do fight i am pretty confident Joyce drowns Fury. Would defo put money on it if i could get good odds. He will just kill him with his pace. I actually think Fury is the easiest match up for Joyce out of wilder, joshua, usyk and Fury.
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joyce should be tailor made for fury with his slow feet and hands. What’s concerning for Tyson is how gassed he was in the last wilder fight. Joyce will make him work a lot harder than wilder so it’s a possibility. Still have to favour fury though. However I’d favour him over Joshua as well but he doesn’t seem to want that fight so who knows if we’ll get Joyce vs fury next. There’s surely no reason why it can’t happen?
 
Jonny Ninja said:
not at all. I was a fury fan back then. His win over wallin was legit and his draw was home town cooking.

Do you think fury looked good in the 3rd wilder fight? He went life and death with a guy he destroyed previously. His last 2 fights were against tough polders that he could beat on an off night with just his left hand tbh. If you think he’s looked super impressive these last 3 fights, then good for you. I think we’ve seen the best of fury in the 2nd wilder fight.
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Youre right, steep downhill from here. Tysons toast, done and a ducking cheater
 
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