Media USADA tests under 100 picograms per ML

[Draxton]

fair enough. i just watch the fights.

You average about 3000 posts a year, or roughly 8 posts per day. I would say you are more invested than “just watching the fights”.

 

[WaylonMercy5150]

You average about 3000 posts a year, or roughly 8 posts per day. I would say you are more invested than “just watching the fights”.

i bet on the fights

 

[TimeToTrain]

Bro, you just told me that you haven't done any reading on this topic at all, but now you're certain about how detailed the lab results are?

They can't tell with certainty the source of every aberrant substance in urine or blood work, which is why they were forced to raise the thresholds.

A bunch of people proved the previous standards wrong in arbitration.

That is based on my job experience working in the biotech industry and reading reports for labs. That’s all I know. What I don’t know is how does a picogram of turinabol change the performance of an athlete? In Jon Jones case, he was tested positive for 33 picograms before the Gus 2 matchup. Now with USADA’s new requirements, athletes can now have 99 picograms of who knows what substance per 1 mL drop of urine or blood.

We don’t know what 99 picograms of something like turinabol or an anabolic steroid can do to one’s performance. These small amounts of traces are detected after substances have been in the system for weeks or months, that I don’t know either but that’s my guess.

 

[MMAcolyte]

Cash cows fabricio werdum and Paulo costa also used substantial assistance. Do you know what it was? No, you don’t. Do you assume it’s fake and an excuse?

Jon jones legitimacy is of course questioned all over the place.

As for the usada science director who’s making a (decent) salary, don’t you think he could make more money in the private sector? And don’t you think discrediting yourself by being blatantly corrupt (as you’re suggesting) would diminish his earning power? And usada would need a science director without the ufc. He makes slightly more than the prior science director made from before usada had the ufc.

Resorting to "whataboutisms" now, are we? Even if that is the case, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they're using that dubious excuse to give reduced sentences to well-known names now that a precedent has been set. Jon Jones: blazing the trail for all PED flunkies. Another feather in his cap, but a piece of his lofty legacy few will realize.

Then there's the fact he hid from USADA under an octagon for hours. Could have been only because of recreational drugs. With Jon's immaculate PED record, he deserves the benefit of the doubt, eh? <45>

Then there's his wacky as fuck out-of-competition T:E ratio way back in 2014 iirc. More extenuating circumstances can probably exonerate him, I suppose. At least if you ask Jeff, Dana, USADA, and company. And you, apparently. Jon's just a really unlucky guy. Very honest and trustworthy too. All these cheating allegations are paranoid and hateful. Just look at his in-cage conduct for proof of that <45>

 

[MMAcolyte]

They publicize them very selectively*

 

[Viper2]

You think there are literally zero clean UFC fighters? That’s almost impossible.

It's not impossible at all. It's actually extremely likely that there are zero clean UFC fighters.

 

[Viper2]

Believing any UFC fighters are clean is like believing Santa Claus exists.

 

[TimeToTrain]

It's not impossible at all. It's actually extremely likely that there are zero clean UFC fighters.

does someone like Tai Tuavasa look like he’s on PEDs? Brandon Moreno? They both look 100% natural. Heck, even Shavkat’s body looks like he doesn’t hit the weights much.

 

[Viper2]

does someone like Tai Tuavasa look like he’s on PEDs? Brandon Moreno? They both look 100% natural. Heck, even Shavkat’s body looks like he doesn’t hit the weights much.

It doesn't matter what someone looks like. People respond differently to PEDs as far as physical appearance. But PEDs help immensely with physical performance.

Royce Gracie didn't look like he was on PEDs but he got caught.

 

[icemun]

does someone like Tai Tuavasa look like he’s on PEDs? Brandon Moreno? They both look 100% natural. Heck, even Shavkat’s body looks like he doesn’t hit the weights much.

This is why there are people who think pro fighters are Natty.

Theyre not just ignorant of the sport, its history and athletics in general, they think steroids are for big muscles or aesthetic physiques.

Josh Barnett has popped more times than any fighter, even when there was no testing.. Big Timmeh as well.

 

[deucesarewild]

Wtf are you talking about ? : https://www.usada.org/athletes/testing/whereabouts/

VADA, on the other hand, doesn't do permanent testing.

Don't compare USADA to the joke VADA is please.

They do as long as you pay for it. Sorry I didn't say that, but it's true.

 

[RageQuitLord]

USAHAHADA

I laughed out loud

 

[DougieJones]

They publicize them very selectively*

 

[RageQuitLord]

I am martial artist and i have competed in BJJ and would to compete soon in full contact martial arts i can tell u without a doubt i have never taken any peds..and i know several people just like me...

Not everyone cheats or uses peds .. this is a bullshit cope cheaters use to claim innocences ..

Like a girl who cheats and says well everyone cheats/experiment's in college...nope...no they dont

You're girlfriend cheated when she left for college huh lol

 

[turbotime]

Pay to play, as long as it's Uncle Dana paying for it. USADA is a good thing. VADA is some weird underground stuff.

 

[TimeToTrain]

This is why there are people who think pro fighters are Natty.

Theyre not just ignorant of the sport, its history and athletics in general, they think steroids are for big muscles or aesthetic physiques.

Josh Barnett has popped more times than any fighter, even when there was no testing.. Big Timmeh as well.View attachment 972929 View attachment 972931

those are images showing their physique years of steroid abuse and what the outcome was not being on it. But I do agree with you that roids don’t make their bodies look muscled up. Jones didn’t look shredded against Gane, but I’m still not convinced he was 100% clean under USADA’s old testing requirements.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

That is based on my job experience working in the biotech industry and reading reports for labs. That’s all I know. What I don’t know is how does a picogram of turinabol change the performance of an athlete? In Jon Jones case, he was tested positive for 33 picograms before the Gus 2 matchup. Now with USADA’s new requirements, athletes can now have 99 picograms of who knows what substance per 1 mL drop of urine or blood.

We don’t know what 99 picograms of something like turinabol or an anabolic steroid can do to one’s performance. These small amounts of traces are detected after substances have been in the system for weeks or months, that I don’t know either but that’s my guess.

It looks like legal cheating.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

those are images showing their physique years of steroid abuse and what the outcome was not being on it. But I do agree with you that roids don’t make their bodies look muscled up. Jones didn’t look shredded against Gane, but I’m still not convinced he was 100% clean under USADA’s old testing requirements.

I'm not sure in any circumstances but I dont anybody.

 

[kflo]

Resorting to "whataboutisms" now, are we? Even if that is the case, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they're using that dubious excuse to give reduced sentences to well-known names now that a precedent has been set. Jon Jones: blazing the trail for all PED flunkies. Another feather in his cap, but a piece of his lofty legacy few will realize.

you don't seem to know what "whataboutism" means. you tried to pretend this was unique to jones and when presented with proof it's not you just move the post.

Then there's the fact he hid from USADA under an octagon for hours. Could have been only because of recreational drugs. With Jon's immaculate PED record, he deserves the benefit of the doubt, eh? <45>

Then there's his wacky as fuck out-of-competition T:E ratio way back in 2014 iirc. More extenuating circumstances can probably exonerate him, I suppose. At least if you ask Jeff, Dana, USADA, and company. And you, apparently. Jon's just a really unlucky guy. Very honest and trustworthy too. All these cheating allegations are paranoid and hateful. Just look at his in-cage conduct for proof of that <45>

and again, you'll just ignore the facts that don't align with your narrative (like when you tried to pretend there was a huge financial gain for lying for jones, and when confronted with proof this isn't true you just move on).

there is alot of hateful talk, yes. it goes way beyond whether he may have used at one point - it's to the point where people ignore anything that goes against a narrative that he's roided to the gills for every fight.

 

[kflo]

It looks like legal cheating.

if it was an easily exploitable loophole everyone would do it. there's no evidence it's an easily exploitable loophole.