USADA only tested Jon Jones 7 times/11 samples in 2019

So they have their own database now? What the hell

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@-Dim- has there been two databases for a long time or...? I’ve always just used the.. ”main one”

:rolleyes:
Its the same database, just different landing page, but its been a mess the last few weeks
 
Why does it even matter how many times? He gets a free pass.
 
1. Didn't they say he was going to be tested every two weeks so they wouldn't miss any short-term pictograms?

2. What were the results, is he still pulsing picos or not?

Anyone know?

he's provided 11 samples not 7

Change your thread title
 
I agree USADA should be testing Jones more frequently to ensure that there are no short term metabolites.
 
The science proved that he was innocent. Why would they test him more than anyone else?


science?

science proved that he still has steroid traces in his system

its more like, USADA policy failed to find him guilty enough for the UFC to stop making money off him
 
The science proved that he was innocent. Why would they test him more than anyone else?

Lol how did the science prove he was innocent??

Because a bunch of non scientists said so???
 
What rule? Specifically?
Maybe he means the USADA Athlete handbook.


Anti-Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs)
Doping, as defined by the Code, is the occurrence of one or more of the following anti- doping rule violations (ADRV):
• Presence of a prohibited substance or its metabolites or markers in an athlete’s sample

No need to look further down the list when you burn on the first one

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he gets a pass to take PEDs anyway, why waste USADA employees' time testing him? doesn't matter wether he test positive or not
 
On one hand, Sherdoggers call Jones a dirty cheater.

On the other hand, they jerk off to Romero, Costa, Ubereem, the nostalgic Pride fighters and the likes and blames USADA for ruining the sport.

{<huh}

If Jones wasn’t a scumbag outside the ring then no one would give a shit if he was on PEDs.
I can't stand Costa and Romero either. In the case of the Pride fighters you can argue that the playing field was more level.
You're kinda right about a lot of people on here though.
 
The science proved that he was innocent. Why would they test him more than anyone else?
The science proved that he likely had not re-ingested the banned substance he was already suspended for having in his system.
Having any banned substance in your system and being innocent of consuming PEDs are mutually exclusive.
 
Maybe he means the USADA Athlete handbook.


Anti-Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs)
Doping, as defined by the Code, is the occurrence of one or more of the following anti- doping rule violations (ADRV):
• Presence of a prohibited substance or its metabolites or markers in an athlete’s sample

No need to look further down the list when you burn on the first one

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Thats from the summary of terms at the end.

Thats just explaining what an ADRV is.. Yes, an ADRV is when an athlete has an AAF, but that does not mean that all AAF's are ADRV's..

An ADRV is when an athlete has provided samples with the presence of prohibited substances or markers, that does not mean that all instances where athletes have provided samples with the presence of prohibited substances or markers are ADRV's. For example, there are countless cases where the sample contained traces of clenbuterol, but the athlete was not charged with an ADRV.

Good job on finding the summary of terms, but you havnt really understood what it is explaining.


as far as rules go there are two types of "positive" test (a positive test in itself isnt really a thing)

there are

ATF - Atypical Findings
AAF - Adverse Analytical Finding

An AAF is what would be considered a "positive test". That is the presence of a substance has been detected in levels that are unequivocally the result of administration of a prohibited substance, or makers unequivocally indicate the administration of a prohibited substance

An ATF is a finding that is unusual or "atypical" but on its own isnt the basis for an athlete being charged with a violation. It generally means further investigation is needed, or further testing required. (A good example of an atf would be a t/e ratio of 5:1 - in intself not a violation - or an aaf - but points to more testing being required)



Jones' samples were arguably ATF and not AAF

However, thats largely irrelevant because Jones has already been charged and served a suspension for the original turinabol administration. You cannot continue to suspend a fighter for the same ingestion UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE ITS A FRESH INGESTION

Just as a burgler may be put in prison for 2 years for a crime where he went into a property and stole a tv, you cannot then, on his release re-imprison him because you learn that at that crime he not only stole a tv but also a radio. Hes already been punished for the crime.

USADA do not have the evidence to prove its a fresh ingestion.
 
Maybe he means the USADA Athlete handbook.


Anti-Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs)
Doping, as defined by the Code, is the occurrence of one or more of the following anti- doping rule violations (ADRV):
• Presence of a prohibited substance or its metabolites or markers in an athlete’s sample

No need to look further down the list when you burn on the first one

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just to clarify...

ATF - Atypical Finding (Jones' samples)

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procedure for review

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An ATF does not automatically become an AAF



Also, you appear to have gone from the general USADA handbook, not the specific UFC/USADA handbook which is different in several instances. Helps if you are using the correct handbook/rules

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