USADA is a facade until fighters get tested 4+ times a month.

[GOATER]

Lol

TS is clueless on so many levels ....

UFC shill, who thinks everything is possible because the UFC establishment says so...LMFAO

 

[Gorkle]

Thats nothing...cut the bald headed motherfuckers bonus to put snow in his las vegas driveway!!!!!!


Logistics wouldnt be unfeasible....If NFL/Soccer teams can make A level fighters relocate where they live....UFC can get fighters to be tested that often and be required to be in places where they can get that often tested.....Its very fucking possible.

So... Half the gate of the biggest fight the UFC could put on right now is not over the top for some frivolous attempt to remove PEDs?

Regimenting drug tests doesn't work. If you know you have 4 tests that month, once you've had 4 you're free to go. If they spread them to approx 1 a week, once you've had your weeks test you're free to go.

The whole idea of random testing is you do not know when you will be tested. You can be tested 2 days in a row (which has happened). You can have nothing for 6 months, then have 4 tests in then next couple of weeks. The whole idea is to catch PED users off guard, not knowing when a test will actually come.

Of course players will move for their club. Fighters move for their gyms too. Or do you think it's just a coincidence loads of fighters seem to live in fucking Albuquerque? However, people who miss tests are banned too. Of course you can say your general whereabouts, but stuff happens. You now have 48 different times a year that you cannot afford to be in a different location for any reason or you risk getting banned.

 

[cade187]

Let's pretend the cost isn't an issue (it is), fighters just aren't going to agree to that level of inconvenience. They are going to start choosing Bellator over the UFC simply to not have to commit one day a week to getting tested.

 

[physiology]

Jon Jones...Known/Confirmed roider...Only tested once this year.....8 months into the year...thats a lot of time to roid.


Conor..tested 3 times a year.....8 months into the year...lots of time to roid.

Yoel romero...has been tested once a month......once a month LMFAO.

Brock, career roider....comes back from PED suspension and gets a title shot asap.

USADA is a joke....its just virtue signaling that they are anti-roids but its #1 bullshit.


If WME/UFC truly care, they need to test fighters 4+ times a month...then we will know they are serious and not virtue signaling cunts.

UFC guys use roids? No way lol

 

[Shaddows]

Jon Jones...Known/Confirmed roider...Only tested once this year.....8 months into the year...thats a lot of time to roid.


Conor..tested 3 times a year.....8 months into the year...lots of time to roid.

Yoel romero...has been tested once a month......once a month LMFAO.

Brock, career roider....comes back from PED suspension and gets a title shot asap.

USADA is a joke....its just virtue signaling that they are anti-roids but its #1 bullshit.


If WME/UFC truly care, they need to test fighters 4+ times a month...then we will know they are serious and not virtue signaling cunts.

seems you miss the point entirely, just to be an ass.
Jon is suspended.
Why the fuck should they test him? Use the money to test active fighters.

Conor is out for the past 2 years.
Why the fuck would they spend resources on him?
Note: On him though, I would use the same approach they used on Lesnar. 6 months prior to their fight he starts getting tested again.

Yoel gets tested once a month. Only HE does not know the day and time. That means he can't roid based on when they come.

The only joke here is you hating on them for doing their job.
I mean, you picked names USADA already found them to be dirty and punished them.
That clearly means they are indeed doing their job.

 

[GOATER]

So... Half the gate of the biggest fight the UFC could put on right now is not over the top for some frivolous attempt to remove PEDs?

Regimenting drug tests doesn't work. If you know you have 4 tests that month, once you've had 4 you're free to go. If they spread them to approx 1 a week, once you've had your weeks test you're free to go.

The whole idea of random testing is you do not know when you will be tested. You can be tested 2 days in a row (which has happened). You can have nothing for 6 months, then have 4 tests in then next couple of weeks. The whole idea is to catch PED users off guard, not knowing when a test will actually come.

Of course players will move for their club. Fighters move for their gyms too. Or do you think it's just a coincidence loads of fighters seem to live in fucking Albuquerque? However, people who miss tests are banned too. Of course you can say your general whereabouts, but stuff happens. You now have 48 different times a year that you cannot afford to be in a different location for any reason or you risk getting banned.

You lack logic.

You do know that you could randomly test people 4 times a month right?.....randomly.

That makes a shitload harder than being tested 3 times in 8 months like the system is now.

I bet you the odds are in your favor of u roiding right after a tester leaves, seeing the pattern....once in a blue moon, perhaps they test twice, back to back days, in a row....but 99% of times they dont....so again, there is a pattern here and its easy to fool.

With 4 times testing a month..u can do 2 days in a row and still test them 2 other times......there is, infinity more ways to make it more random thus harder.

Also it can he more than 4 times to throw them off.

 

[Gorkle]

You lack logic.

You do know that you could randomly test people 4 times a month right?.....randomly.

That makes a shitload harder than being tested 3 times in 8 months like the system is now.

I bet you the odds are in your favor if u roid right after a tester leaves, seeing the pattern....once in a blue moon, perhaps they test twice in a row....but 99% of times they dont....so again, there is a pattern here and its easy to fool.

With 4 times testing a month..u can do 2 days in a row and still test them 2 other times......there is, infinity more ways to make it more random thus harder.

Also it can he more than 4 times to throw them off.

So, you're now talking about spending upwards of 20 million on this?

Do you not see why this idea is fucking stupid?

 

[dim_]

Jon Jones...Known/Confirmed roider...Only tested once this year.....8 months into the year...thats a lot of time to roid.


Conor..tested 3 times a year.....8 months into the year...lots of time to roid.

The whole pojnt is you could be tested at any moment, you dont know when you will be tested. thats the deterrent.

Yoel romero...has been tested once a month......once a month LMFAO.

NO.. he hasnt...

 

[dim_]

You lack logic.

You do know that you could randomly test people 4 times a month right?.....randomly.
.

what you are describing isnt random

 

[kflo]

They can go to USADA.com

See how many times people get tested.

See people get tested only like 3 times in 8 months.

Once USADA comes and test you....You roid right when they leave because the odds say, that they wont test until 2 or 3 months later.

Easy as fuck if u have any logic.

lol

and what about if they go to usada.com and see that some fighters get tested 10 times in a year....

lol at your logic...

 

[GOATER]

Let's pretend the cost isn't an issue (it is), fighters just aren't going to agree to that level of inconvenience. They are going to start choosing Bellator over the UFC simply to not have to commit one day a week to getting tested.

LMFAO.

As MMA fighters have that much leverage.

A level NFL/Soccer athletes bend over when their employer ask them to.....You're delusional if you think MMA fighters will join bellator over the frequency of drug testing lol.

 

[DeathStroke]

Jon Jones...Known/Confirmed roider...Only tested once this year.....8 months into the year...thats a lot of time to roid.


Conor..tested 3 times a year.....8 months into the year...lots of time to roid.

Yoel romero...has been tested once a month......once a month LMFAO.

Brock, career roider....comes back from PED suspension and gets a title shot asap.

USADA is a joke....its just virtue signaling that they are anti-roids but its #1 bullshit.


If WME/UFC truly care, they need to test fighters 4+ times a month...then we will know they are serious and not virtue signaling cunts.

You do understand that this would cost a huge amount of money right? And you do understand that the UFC is not a charity? Therefore they won't operate at loss or even at margins that Dana/WME deem unfavorable. The money for drug testing is going to come from somewhere. I'd be willing to bet it would come from fighter's salaries. Not a good thing.

 

[GOATER]

what you are describing isnt random

Yes it is...read the title...4 times + a month, meaning it can be more than 4 times....but it should be minimum 4 times
a month.

It is 100% random because it wont be "every friday of the week" like you people think.

You can still randomly test them within that month....so 2 days in a row....then once next week.....then 3 times next week.

Thats way more random and its way harder to time it

 

[BenjaminDuffy]

They could do it...It will cost money and require fighters to sacrafice sometime but its possible.

For fighters who live and train outside the U.S., that's more than just some money and time we're talking about here. Would USADA even honor results from a Brazilian or Chinese lab?

 

[dim_]

So this would cost between $7.6 and $15.2 million per year (costs approx 200 and 400 dollars per test approximately, 48 tests per year and 790 fighters on the roster).

Also the logistics would be completely unfeasible.

at the moment they pay around $2.5m for 2700 samples per year, so around 1000 per sample (but thats also including cost of administering the program, educational resources etc etc etc)

What TS Is suggesting is 4 visits by testers per month per athlete.

600 athletes on the roster.

4 visits per month, that's 48 visits from testers per year.

Lets presume that 50% of those visits are for a urine sample only and 50% of those visits are for both blood and urine.

Thats a total of 72 samples per fighter per year

for 600 fighters that is a total of 43,200 samples per year

total cost

$43,200,000 per annum at the price they are currently paying

FORTY THREE FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

Thats before we even look at the logistics of that....

The two wada labs in the US currently handle around 20,000 samples per year..

Just shy of 10,000 in LA (9,990 per wada 2016 anti doping reports)
Just over 10,000 in SLC (10,637 per wada 2016 anti doping reports)

So TS is proposing increasing the number of samples processed by those labs from 20,000 per annum to OVER 60,000, effectively TRIPLING the number of samples they process.


Both labs would need to be massively expanded, in fact UCLA lab would probably need to move to a totally new site and rebuilt. Both sites would need to at least double their number of staff (but probably treble the number of staff) as well as anti doping agencies worldwide significantly increasing the number of staff they employed..




So what TS Is proposing would

1) Require knocking down the UCLA Lab and moving it to a brand new site and building
2) Both UCLA and SMRTL as well as labs worldwide increasing their staff, in some cases tripling
and
3) would cost the UFC around $45 million dollars per annum...

 

[Flokk]

So this would cost between $7.6 and $15.2 million per year (costs approx 200 and 400 dollars per test approximately, 48 tests per year and 790 fighters on the roster).

Also the logistics would be completely unfeasible.

That's like a dozen birthday parties for Dana's son. No way can anybody afford that ... Oh, wait.

Tell the facade to stop fucking up fights or have GSPs doctors available for the roster to consult with.

 

[GOATER]

lol

and what about if they go to usada.com and see that some fighters get tested 10 times in a year....

lol at your logic...

You obviously lack logic.

Look at the list...Most fighters are tested like 3-4 times in 8 months.

Some fighters are tested a shitload, but Im sure you can find correlation as in, fighters who fight more frequently get tested more and closer to the fight...tho its best to roid in the off season.

The system has a pattern and it isnt that hard to fool if you actually see it.

 

[Gorkle]

at the moment they pay around $2.5m for 2700 samples per year, so around 1000 per sample (but thats also including cost of administering the program, educational resources etc etc etc)

What TS Is suggesting is 4 visits by testers per month per athlete.

600 athletes on the roster.

4 visits per month, that's 48 visits from testers per year.

Lets presume that 50% of those visits are for a urine sample only and 50% of those visits are for both blood and urine.

Thats a total of 72 samples per fighter per year

for 600 fighters that is a total of 43,200 samples per year

total cost

$43,200,000 per annum at the price they are currently paying

FORTY THREE FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

/thread

And there were go! My figure was a very quick Google search, I'm sure you know this a lot better than I do!

 

[ThunderStruck]

UFC shill, who thinks everything is possible because the UFC establishment says so...LMFAO

You are clueless.

 

[GOATER]

For fighters who live and train outside the U.S., that's more than just some money and time we're talking about here. Would USADA even honor results from a Brazilian or Chinese lab?

Like I said.

A level athletes in the NFL/ Soccer move to places because they have to.

MMA fighters could be required to do that as well.