International US Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

International Tourism is down 12% from where it was last year at this point. Stories like the two German women being deported from Hawaii while on vacation are making headlines worldwide.
It also goes further than worries at the points of entrance. Citizens of countries that Trump is being hostile to simply have no interests in supporting the US economy going forward. That’s the case for me and most Canadians right now. We’ll spend our tourism dollars up here, and abroad, just not in the US.
 
I'm known for being quite harsh, some might say unfairly, to so called "centrists" and "independents" who I feel are really just right wingers trying to smuggle in their partisan viewpoints as nonpartisan. However I don't get that sense from you even if I've disagreed with you in regards to important matters in the last year or so.

I'm biased as you and I have had a cordial relationship here going back a few years now but as some others know I'm not that afraid to burn bridges on this forum over the merits of an argument and especially if I feel the person I'm talking to is acting in bad faith or making poor arguments in favor of objectionable viewpoints. I don't think that's the case with you though.

Really my main issue isn't with the right generally, its specifically the MAGA movement. Right now a lefty who bends the knee to MAGA is someone I'd respect far less than a principled conservative who stands up to MAGA like Adam Kinzinger or Susan Collins or Mitt Romney or Lisa Murkowski. Whatever disagreement I might have with those folks about immigration or the economy is less important than the shared values around the importance of the Constitution and the threat to it from MAGA and I feel like you and I have those shared values whereas I can't say the same about MAGA and its fellow travelers.
Regular conservatives are a wet fucking dream compared to these maga idiots we're stuck with. Even the Tea Party is reasonable by comparison.
 

Apparently these two got separated during questioning. One of them admitted to them both working in Costa Rica prior to arriving. Had no place reserved to stay etc etc. Just too many red flags to ignore.
 
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I promise you the Metlife stadium in New York/New Jersey will be packed. This goobtuber is good at getting clicks though.



If the U.S. government is willing to do that to two teenage girls from Germany, what hope does someone from Iran have?

I'm not willing to roll those dice.
 
Apparently these two got separated during questioning. One of them admitted to them both working in Costa Rica prior to arriving. Had no place reserved to stay etc etc. Just too many red flags to ignore.
That is important context
 


If the U.S. government is willing to do that to two teenage girls from Germany, what hope does someone from Iran have?

I'm not willing to roll those dice.

Those two girls were caught in a couple red flag answers that didn't rehearse properly. Plus they each had different answers to a few questions. Just too many red flags.
 
Regular conservatives are a wet fucking dream compared to these maga idiots we're stuck with. Even the Tea Party is reasonable by comparison.
I agree with the first part but MAGA absorbed the tea party--it didn't displace it.

They are the same people dressed in a different costume as far as I'm concerned. And what I'm concerned about is pretty clear. It's been the same shit since Reagan, much less the Tea Party.

The Tea Party of the Obama years didn't full on attack the constitution and every American institution and norm the way Trump and his minions are doing. That's all I meant.

Okay, yeah, this is something new and not good.
 
Apparently these two got separated during questioning. One of them admitted to them both working in Costa Rica prior to arriving. Had no place reserved to stay etc etc. Just too many red flags to ignore.
You can’t just say “etc. etc.” and then talk about too many red flags.

Tourists picking up side gigs to pay for their trip in a foreign country? Sure. Landing somewhere before finding a hostel or place to crash? Reasonable. I did both these same thing when I was traveling the US. Mowed lawns for cash in Amarillo. I’d meet people who’d put me up about half the time.
 
You can’t just say “etc. etc.” and then talk about too many red flags.
It was reported pretty loosely by NY times so obviously they didn't mention all the red flags.
Tourists picking up side gigs to pay for their trip in a foreign country? Sure.
Yes I know. Working on the down low isn't new. Some get caught and some don't.
Landing somewhere before finding a hostel or place to crash? Reasonable.
Very much depends on the surrounding details.
I did both these same thing when I was traveling the US. Mowed lawns for cash in Amarillo. I’d meet people who’d put me up about half the time.
awesome
 
You can’t just say “etc. etc.” and then talk about too many red flags.

Tourists picking up side gigs to pay for their trip in a foreign country? Sure. Landing somewhere before finding a hostel or place to crash? Reasonable. I did both these same thing when I was traveling the US. Mowed lawns for cash in Amarillo. I’d meet people who’d put me up about half the time.
Lock him up!!
 
They are the same people dressed in a different costume as far as I'm concerned. And what I'm concerned about is pretty clear. It's been the same shit since Reagan, much less the Tea Party.



Okay, yeah, this is something new and not good.
That moment you realize you actually yearn for the good ole’ days of the Tea Baggers holding congress hostage…

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