Economy US manufacturers see higher metal prices as tariffs near

[oldshadow]

meanwhile, the "pro-job" party is busy firing most of their federal workers and then telling them that god has a plan for them.



"the plan is for you not to have a job anymore because the world's richest man thinks you're a waste of money."

Cutting taxpayers money being spent when it not necessary.

Maybe they can get jobs working in the steel mills.

 

[avenue94]

Hold the increase to the minimum possible and increase US portion.

How do you hold price increases to a minimum? Or for that matter make US labor costs competitive with other countries?

It sounds like you're advocating for a state controlled economy.

 

[oldshadow]

How do you hold price increases to a minimum? Or for that matter make US labor costs competitive with other countries?

It sounds like you're advocating for a state controlled economy.

Maybe tax benefits to help boost the expansion. There are ways to help.

I'm waiting to see if and how they can do what they say they can.

 

[avenue94]

Maybe tax benefits to help boost the expansion. There are ways to help.

I'm waiting to see if and how they can do what they say they can.

So after hurting the consumer through higher costs, the government needs to then forgo revenue to permanently subsidize an economically unviable industry. Genius policy.

 

[Andy Capp]

Bread goes in, toast comes out.

You can't explain that.

Somewhat related to that, it's funny to me who you don't see in these kinds of threads.

 

[SandisLL]

Of course things will go up. We will see what is done to help hold it.

Isn't the object to get American metal back up and running strong. You know creating more American jobs. Are democrats anti American job now.

Agreed they have to also have a plan to hold the prices down as much as can be down while pushing American metal production.

Dems wanted to relocate chips production from Taiwan to U.S.


Aluminium production requires a lot of cheap electricity...
Dunno how quickly U.S might boost up production of cheap electricity in order to produce cheap high quality aluminium.

Dreams are dreams.

 

[Osculater]

Trump's America

 

[Osculater]

Buckle up, prices are only going to go up with tariffs - ain't no 2 ways about it.

First Trump presidency was all about 4D chess, this presidency shifts it to 1D checkers.

 

[deviake]

Weird how quiet Dump fan girls are....especially considering they kept saying tariffs were awesome.



Absolute morons.

I'm just watching online and IRL to see how much longer they can continue clinging to his shriveled nuts. The level of excuses for the insanity and authoritarian measures and sieg heils is wild, we're gonna see how much pain they have to collectively take before they undo the nipple clamps from the car battery.

I watched a town hall of people getting pissed at their conservative congressman (I believe it was a congressman) who spoke well of what Trump was doing.

You wanted this, thanks dudes. Cool. We'll all enjoy. I've yet to hear someone try to defend the Nazi salutes IRL and that's probably for the better. I've no patience or understanding for Nazi shit.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Trust the plan!

 

[avenue94]

Dems wanted to relocate chips production from Taiwan to U.S.


Aluminium production requires a lot of cheap electricity...
Dunno how quickly U.S might boost up production of cheap electricity in order to produce cheap high quality aluminium.

Dreams are dreams.

It wasn't about relocating, it was mostly ensuring Intel fabs stay afloat and TSMC diversified a bit. There's next to no bleeding edge chips completely produced in the US just yet because domestic packaging hasn't caught up.

Having said that, chips are a bit more important than steel at this point since we can get steel from allies.

 

[SandisLL]

It wasn't about relocating, it was mostly ensuring Intel fabs stay afloat and TSMC diversified a bit. There's next to no bleeding edge chips completely produced in the US just yet because domestic packaging hasn't caught up.

Having said that, chips are a bit more important than steel at this point since we can get steel from allies.

Steel from allies with tariffs.
Aluminium is fun...cheapest stuff might produce Iceland, NZ, Canada and after this Russia.

U.S does produce chips from 0 to hero and military chips usually does have 130 nm or " larger " litography.
Small stuff like 16 nm and smaller litography usually is for Taiwan and Co.
Slicers are usually produced in Netherlands.

 

[TrueBias]

I expected some obvious differences, but I'm comfortable with it.

Biden made us worse gradually and the reasons were blatant to anyone with a memory.

That said, I'm skeptical. I know biden was to blame for a lot but the covid damage wouldve affected anyone....I believe. Trump hit the ground running and with some risky moves. I have faith, but I'm watching the cause and effects.

This is how any god damn person should approach any of these political choices. Things have SUCKED a certain way, so let's try another way. Risky, sure, but I can confirm usa was awful with Biden and ok with trump. If it fails, I'll share the guilt. That's all there is to it.

Let's see if the billionaire that has come back from bankruptcy a few times is onto something. He knows how to recover and he is not a politician, but a businessman in a capitalist country.

 

[avenue94]

Steel from allies with tariffs.
Aluminium is fun...cheapest stuff might produce Iceland, NZ, Canada and after this Russia.

U.S does produce chips from 0 to hero and military chips usually does have 130 nm or " larger " litography.
Small stuff like 16 nm and smaller litography usually is for Taiwan and Co.
Slicers are usually produced in Netherlands.

The US doesn't really do bleeding edge at the moment since Intel opted for TSMC for Lunar Lake and TSMC is going to handle most of the important chiplets for Panther Lake, at least until late 2026.

That's why tariffs on Taiwanese chips are so dumb, it's not only TSMC that eats the cost, it's going to be Intel too since they have to import them and TSMC Arizona is focused on Apple orders. Ditto if you put tariffs on lithography equipment, which I woulnd't put past the idiots to do.

 

[SandisLL]

The US doesn't really do bleeding edge at the moment since Intel opted for TSMC for Lunar Lake and TSMC is going to handle most of the important chiplets for Panther Lake, at least until late 2026.

That's why tariffs on Taiwanese chips are so dumb, it's not only TSMC that eats the cost, it's going to be Intel too since they have to import them and TSMC Arizona is focused on Apple orders. Ditto if you put tariffs on lithography equipment, which I woulnd't put past the idiots to do.

There are ....litography equipment, slicers and dopping equipment & micromanipulators etc stuff.

Yes, Trump does wants to apply tariffs for all this.
Also for crystals and other stuff.

 

[Blunderbuss]

Bread goes in, toast comes out.

You can't explain that.

You know what they say, all toasters toast toast

 

[italiamusica]

So long as the libtards lost, it doesn't matter how expensive or poor or sick or hungry or tired or weak or homeless or jobless the people are. U S A. U S A.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Cutting taxpayers money being spent when it not necessary.

Maybe they can get jobs working in the steel mills.

not necessary? do you have any facts and data to back this up with, or are you just going off of "daddy and elon said so"?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

So long as the libtards lost, it doesn't matter how expensive or poor or sick or hungry or tired or weak or homeless or jobless the people are. U S A. U S A.

this is republican politics in a nutshell. they'll chop their own dicks off and make their own lives worse if it means spiting a libtard or two. they'll clap like seals as they start to pay more in taxes, pay more for their groceries, and start to lose their health insurance, their jobs, and their social security while their favorite politicians enrich themselves, just as long as they get some mean tweets out of it and some libtard out there is upset. that's all the validation that they need. that's all politics is to them. it's not about trying to better any of their lives. it's trying to make peoples lives worse of people who they don't like.

 

[curryjunkie]

It wasn't about relocating, it was mostly ensuring Intel fabs stay afloat and TSMC diversified a bit. There's next to no bleeding edge chips completely produced in the US just yet because domestic packaging hasn't caught up.

Having said that, chips are a bit more important than steel at this point since we can get steel from allies.

You're getting steel from North Korea?