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I put a certain retard on ignore. Wonder if it’s the same one!
Was it me?
I put a certain retard on ignore. Wonder if it’s the same one!
No I like you.Was it me?
That is not why they commit crime though.
Terrorism implies a means (violence/crime) to an end (social or political goals). Cartels do not exist as organizations dedicated to enacting political change.
Ensuring compliance is a means to the end goal of making money, so unless we are going to redefine the word terrorism to mean "using violence to achieve the goal of making money, instead of or in addition to, the goal of enacting political, social, or religious change", then you and Rob have it backwards.
You're literally describing a financial goal."The goal of making more money...by intimidating government officials, so that the government works in tandem with the cartels to protect their illegal business."
Just shut the fuck up, retard.
Yeah, and that is totally separated a political one at all times? Even when they're killing politicians to advance their goals?You're literally describing a financial goal.
He’s a retard. He’s misunderstanding the definition.No, this is a retarded take because in the end power is the end goal, money is just a means to power and sometimes that gets convoluted.
This is just a "its not real socialism" the terrorist version.
The goal is to put fear into civilian population for political goals, goals that a lot of times do entail enriching themselves
The term "political" relates to the system or activities of governing a country or area, including the exercise of power, decision-making, and the distribution of resources. It can also refer to a person's beliefs, affiliation with a political party or cause, or their involvement in the processes of government.
There's a line where it crosses over and you have a better argument for FTO designation, like Noriega or Escobar where you have serious state capture.I do think it's a bit grey like I said in my original post a few pages back.
I mean, they commit drug crimes to sell drugs, I get that. But they also target police and politicians and civilians for anyone who gets in the way.
I mean, say the Mafia back in the day (I could be wrong), they would generally get pissed at anyone who targeted cops because of the heat it brought.
The cartels actually go after the cops and politicians so that poltiicians wanting to crack down on them don't apply for the job. Is intimidating and murdering politicians so they don't apply for the job or don't pursue policies a goal of changing government through violence some form of terorristic regime change? Not sure if it is, but if it's not, it's a very close sibling.
So it feels like there's two types of crimes going, one that is drug dealing, and others that has a different twist to it which is trying to control society around resisting those crimes. Can one be considered non-terrorist crime (the drug dealing part) while the other part of targeting police and politicians and civilian dissidents terroristic????
I can see how some might say yes.
Funny enough I think it's me because I called him out for claiming Tesla's Dojo chips were going to be this great advance in semiconductors, only for Tesla to cancel the project less than a month later. The man believes anything ChatGPT tells him and can't admit when Musk is wrong.Was it me?
What the hell are you even talking about in regard to silicone!? Each chip design is specialized to a specific use case. Dojo is incredible for its use case. How ignorant are you?
At a certain point in every conversation I ask myself “is this guy retarded?”.
Remember when you were telling me Dojo is amazing and then couldn't back up your argument and tell me why or how it compares to rival silicon?
Tesla realized they couldn't compete and tossed in the towel.
"Bloomberg News on Thursday cited people familiar with the matter as saying Musk had ordered the Dojo team to be disbanded, with team leader Peter Bannon departing the company."
I told you that Tesla has an integrated production line. They still do. Consolidating AI efforts only increases that fact.
It was, in fact, the retard I thought it was.Yeah, and that is totally separated a political one at all times? Even when they're killing politicians to advance their goals?
LOL, good Lord. I repeat, shut the fuck up, retard.
So you can't provide any testimony from the bill's drafters mentioning 219 was aimed at drug cartels?Yeah, and that is totally separated a political one at all times? Even when they're killing politicians to advance their goals?
LOL, good Lord. I repeat, shut the fuck up, retard.
"The bill's drafting of 219...something, something...drug cartels who kill/intimidate politicians, are totally not not committing terrorism in a political sense."So you can't provide any testimony from the bill's drafters mentioning 219 was aimed at drug cartels?
Do you even know who drafted the bill or sponsored it?
Brilliant. You still have no idea what the bill's sponsors had in mind when pushing it along."The bill's drafting of 219...something, something...drug cartels who kill/intimidate politicians, are totally not not committing terrorism in a political sense."
Shut the fuck up, retard.
Can't blame you. He's too fun to play with, though. I feel like I'm looking into a fishbowl watching some strange species eating it's own dick.It was, in fact, the retard I thought it was.
What soured is the that the last 2 elections where an american puppet (Guaidó and Corina) didnt recognize the elections and claimed fraud. US backed them (guaido actually tried to make a parallel cabinet). BTW I'm not pro Maduro and specially the last election was really shady. I'm just pointing out what made everything go downhill.Yeah but something soured that. Remember they held some US Oil execs in prison and it seemed "diplomatic relations" took a turn after that. It's weird because US oil companies seem to have no real issues paying into the democratic socialism of Nordic Countries, or even funding f the UBI that exists in Alaska. But something about Latino and African Nations requires guerilla soldiers. I wonder what it could be...
What soured is the that the last 2 elections where an american puppet (Guaidó and Corina) didnt recognize the elections and claimed fraud. US backed them (guaido actually tried to make a parallel cabinet). BTW I'm not pro Maduro and specially the last election was really shady. I'm just pointing out what made everything go downhill.
Also, this whole thing has nothing to do with drugs, if it was the case Trump would be going in Colombia. I dont think it's only oil though. I think getting some foot in the amazon, that is rich in minerals, is part of Trump's goals as he needs alternatives to China. It's Colombia, Brazil or Venezuela. Brazil and Colombia current presidents doesnt have a good relationship with Trump but they're properly elected. Maduro is the easier target since he's an international pariah.
It also appease the military complex a little bit, since he's not straight up funding Ukraine anymore, gotta have new targets to creat demand.
What soured is the that the last 2 elections where an american puppet (Guaidó and Corina) didnt recognize the elections and claimed fraud. US backed them (guaido actually tried to make a parallel cabinet). BTW I'm not pro Maduro and specially the last election was really shady. I'm just pointing out what made everything go downhill.
I can agree with most of this. Oil and minerals. On Maduro, you know I have tried to do a deep-dive on the last election with multiple sources, I can read Spanish so I used both languages, and it was really really difficult to find a lot of information on what all went down. I did this to respond to a thread here a long time ago, but eventually just forgot about it and I have the sources I found saved. Apparently his administration DID invite UN witnesses and other such International bodies, and they refused to come. Only like 3 Countries sent representatives and I could only find any reporting on what 2 of them said and both said the election was legitimate. Given everything Empire Files has published on the meddling that has plagued then since Chavez, I cannot just be convicting of Maduro because it suits a narrative especially given we openly tried to coup them and are likely trying to do the same thing right now. This stinks of Iraq War, just on this side of the Atlantic.
If this was true Maduro would simply be normalized, its not like America is above dealing with dictatorship in exchange of resources.I can agree with most of this. Oil and minerals.
Low quality garbage that's still expensive? No wonder Trump wants his name on it.
I'm not american and I'm not defending Maduro legitimacy. When I say Guaido was an american puppet it's not about legitimacy, it's because he didnt have a strong internal base and was meeting with the american government before the whole thing went down. He was being backed up by the US and public asking for foreing intervention. Most of the countries who recognized Guaido didnt have an idea of who he was and only did so by US request.Guaido was the speaker and considering Maduro banned all political opposition i think its fair to claim he became illegitimate at that point so Speaker of the House would the be the legitimate president.
When i hear American say stupid shit like "Oh Maduro is legitimate everyone else is US puppet" it really really makes me want Trump to succeed at its power grab
The thing is... in venezuelan elections they always release the "actas de escrutinio", some minutes related to the voting. They didnt release it in the last one, even after saying they would. Even some former allies had trouble with it. So it was really shady.I can agree with most of this. Oil and minerals. On Maduro, you know I have tried to do a deep-dive on the last election with multiple sources, I can read Spanish so I used both languages, and it was really really difficult to find a lot of information on what all went down. I did this to respond to a thread here a long time ago, but eventually just forgot about it and I have the sources I found saved. Apparently his administration DID invite UN witnesses and other such International bodies, and they refused to come. Only like 3 Countries sent representatives and I could only find any reporting on what 2 of them said and both said the election was legitimate. Given everything Empire Files has published on the meddling that has plagued then since Chavez, I cannot just be convicting of Maduro because it suits a narrative especially given we openly tried to coup them and are likely trying to do the same thing right now. This stinks of Iraq War, just on this side of the Atlantic.