Unpopular MMA opinions

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MMA judges are almost always right. If I disagree with them its almost always on a fight that could go either way, rarely a robbery. Its hard to balance volume, damage, and control and the judges do a surprisingly consistent job at it.

 

[Daelh]

Now that is an unpopular opinion

So I've noticed hanging around her for the last year.

 

[dominion]

As to the OP.. Dana was clearly very instrumental in making the UFC what it is today. But, I do believe it’s time to move on. He is such a neanderthal compared to any other successful CEO of a multi billion dollar company.

Just like the fighters of yesterday. The UFC will be fine without him. And it might even go more main stream without such a vulgar heathen as it’s figurehead.

It's just his style of speaking and appearance, mentally he's a shark and one of the smartest business minds for the job. The people who based their judgement on comportment are the true neaderthals.

 

[dominion]

What are your unpopular opinions?

mine:

-Dana White is great for the sport and I think UFC will take a major hit when he’s gone. It will lose a lot of its luster without a controversial and outspoken figure like him. It’s rare to see someone like him not get Me Too’d or cancelled yet, and he’s said a lot of bad shit. Somehow he’s Teflon to PC culture

-I don’t really give a shit about fighter pay, I like having one major organization without 15 different champions in each weight class who never fight each other like boxing.

-I think Jimmy Smith was absolutely terrible as a commentator, seems like a nice guy though

-I miss Mike Goldberg dearly, but a simp like Jon Anik was a necessary evil for the UFC during the Fox/ESPN era

None of those are unpopular bro, QFT actually.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

USADA is pure bullshit and PEDs make the sport better

-I think Jimmy Smith was absolutely terrible as a commentator, seems like a nice guy though

Completely agreed. All he did was scream about how everyone needs to fight slower and safer and how every fight should be a decision.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

Fighters in the mid 2000 era would absolutely fuck up fighters of today

Someone like Phil Baroni would be champion

This is due to fighters of today skirting around USADA and not juiced to the gills anymore, despite a good majority of them still picodosing, its not the same as in the heyday when smaller guys like Rich Franklin had 12 packs

 

[Shaddows]

As to the OP.. Dana was clearly very instrumental in making the UFC what it is today. But, I do believe it’s time to move on. He is such a neanderthal compared to any other successful CEO of a multi billion dollar company.

Just like the fighters of yesterday. The UFC will be fine without him. And it might even go more main stream without such a vulgar heathen as it’s figurehead.

I always contend that Scott Coker should have replaced the baldfather when they got him with Strikeforce.
Sad that it did not happen

 

[r-harper-1]

Jimmy smith was awful

 

[SpedDaddyV]

As to the OP.. Dana was clearly very instrumental in making the UFC what it is today. But, I do believe it’s time to move on. He is such a neanderthal compared to any other successful CEO of a multi billion dollar company.

Just like the fighters of yesterday. The UFC will be fine without him. And it might even go more main stream without such a vulgar heathen as it’s figurehead.

I disagree, and I don't think MMA can ever go much more main stream

At the end of the day its cage fighting, no matter how many rules or whatever you want to impose. There is a reason why main events are held at 12AM EST. How many wives and older people would stay up for that shit? It can never be football or soccer. You will never have 6 year old kids wearing a Reebok Francis Ngannou shirt like they would a Dallas Cowboys jersey (unless he has retarded parents)

It isn't a sport you can watch during Sunday dinner with your wife and grandma. You can call it a legitimate sport all you want, but when you see women fighters getting elbowed on the ground splattering blood everywhere, or Derrick Lewis pounding an unconscious man's skull repeatedly against the ground when the fight is over, you are going to be alienated from a good majority of casual sports fans

Dana White represents the sport and caters to the target demographic

Once Dana White is gone and there is a politically correct douche as the figure head, MMA will fall behind boxing which due to the less graphic nature can attract more casual sports fans

When Dana White is gone I see a guy with no spine being put at the realm, someone who caters to fighter pay and politically correct opinions (which will alienate hardcore fans and still not attract new fans), I see more divisions being created, more titles, and eventually it will turn into boxing in regard to fighters having more of a voice

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Anderson is one of my favs but he didn't want any of Jon Jones. Can't blame him.

I like Rogan and what he brings.

 

[Talon81]

I don’t hold that against him, he popped after he had a freak leg injury and was in his 40s already

No he wasn't

 

[SpedDaddyV]

Anderson is one of my favs but he didn't want any of Jon Jones. Can't blame him.

I like Rogan and what he brings.

I remember around the time before the Jon Jones/Shogun fight, I always told myself that Anderson Silva is levels above Jon Jones, I remember posting on here (on my older account that got banned for posting Hermes Franca weigh in pics with his shorts stuffed) that Jon Jones was terrible striker and hasn't fought anyone good

but deep down... I knew I was lying to myself and hoped they never fought for Anderson's sake

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

I remember around the time before the Jon Jones/Shogun fight, I always told myself that Anderson Silva is levels above Jon Jones, I remember posting on here (on my older account that got banned for posting Hermes Franca weigh in pics with his shorts stuffed) that Jon Jones was terrible striker and hasn't fought anyone good

but deep down... I knew I was lying to myself and hoped they never fought for Anderson's sake

There are fights we don't need to see. I didn't want to see GSP, more than likely, get KTFO by Anderson and I didn't want to see Anderson, more than likely, get rag dolled by Jones.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

No he wasn't

he was in his 40s and just had a freak leg injury when he popped after the Nick Diaz fight...

 

[EnthusiastCultivator]

GSP would’ve taken Whittaker to school if his gut disease didn’t prevent him from retiring for good.

Uriah Hall and Darren Till have the highest chance of beating Izzy out of the current top 15 MW fighters.

Usman is a definite #2 GOAT WW, high quality of wins and imo is 3 title defenses away from securing the GOAT WW crown (although admittedly would be hard to accomplish given how stacked the roster is)

BJJ is a weak base for MMA and we will likely don’t see any champ in the future that is mainly a BJJ specialist. Karate and Kickboxing guys will soon takeover the sport.

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

No he wasn't

Regardless that was the era right? We all know the vast majority of fighters were using some form of PED during those days. It really is a who cares about PEDs time in MMA. It wasn't right but what I say is accurate.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

The version of Brock Lesnar that made Heath Herring look like a child and turned Frank Mir's face into hamburger meat would have mauled Fedor

That was before Lesnar had diverticulitis, lost a ton of confidence and size, became timid... while still roided to the gills and much younger

 

[Talon81]

Aldo beat a lot of good guys, but as soon as he faced elites - like Conor, Max, etc, he lost.

You could argue 2013 Edgar was elite. I mean look at the guys Aldo beat, they are def good fighters, not quite elite level.

Posts like this really make me question the intelligence of the average Sherdogger. It takes some real mental gymnastics to think there were no Elites in the division and then all the sudden several sprung up overnight, rather than believe what is obvious: Aldo wasn't the same.

If Aldo had beat those guys and was still at the top, you wouldn't be calling them elite. On the flip side, in the absence of Aldo, Mendes would have absolutely been considered elite. He was soundly beating Conor til his short notice gas tank emptied. Yes, Conor made that happen quicker with nice body work but coming in short notice definitely impacts one's cardio.

Nobody in this sport stays in their prime for 10+ years. Fedor, Jones, GSP, Aldo, Anderson, MM all pushed those limits but only because they were so good that they could still beat great competition even slightly before/ after their primes.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

Posts like this really make me question the intelligence of the average Sherdogger. It takes some real mental gymnastics to think there were no Elites in the division and then all the sudden several sprung up overnight, rather than believe what is obvious: Aldo wasn't the same.

If Aldo had beat those guys and was still at the top, you wouldn't be calling them elite. On the flip side, in the absence of Aldo, Mendes would have absolutely been considered elite. He was soundly beating Conor til his short notice gas tank emptied. Yes, Conor made that happen quicker with nice body work but coming in short notice definitely impacts one's cardio.

Nobody in this sport stays in their prime for 10+ years. Fedor, Jones, Aldo, Anderson, MM all pushed those limits but only because they were so good that they could still beat great competition even slightly before/ after their primes.

yes, people act like Chad Mendes, Frankie Edgar, Uriah Faber, Korean Zombie, etc weren't elite fighters because they look at their records since the Aldo fight

After major fights in which someone loses, they tend to regress, lose confidence, etc. Look at Dominick Reyes since he lost the Jon Jones decision. Now all of the sudden he is shit when he was a legitimate killer

People don't realize the mental dump that occurs in all sports when you get so close to the top, but lose. You aren't the same fighter anymore. Obviously not the case for everyone, but still

And not even mentioning the mileage and toll you put on your body every fight camp and every fight... you age dramatically

Watch a younger Jon Jones and a younger Jose Aldo back in WEC before his knee injuries... completely different fighters from what they are today

 

[Talon81]

he was in his 40s and just had a freak leg injury when he popped after the Nick Diaz fight...

Again, no he wasn't.
He broke his leg at 38, popped at 39. The Diaz fight happened when Silva was 39. The test he failed was from before the fight, and his usage was at least somewhat prior to the test.

To say he was in his 40's is not only factually incorrect but it has the suggestion that he was at least a couple years beyond 40. I probably wouldn't have even corrected you if you said he was "40", but 40s definitely was an attempt to create a narrative of age beyond what he actually was. When someone calls you out on a false statement maybe double check before doubling down.