Crime United Healthcare CEO assassinated in NYC

[KAZSoliloquy]

If I had started investing in my twenties I would easily have 3X. There is no excuse to be poor in America. Buy food in bulk. Have roommates. Don't go out to bars or restaurants. Buy clothes at Walmart. Invest the savings. Compound interest wins.

in order to not actually be poor in america, you have to live the lifestyle of a person with literally zero dollars to their name lmao

 

[DoctorTaco]

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Thanks papa bear

 

[PoundForPound]

in order to not actually be poor in america, you have to live the lifestyle of a person with literally zero dollars to their name lmao

Lmao that guy thinks he's done something. Lived a life full of compromises to have a million dollars while other make that in a year.

 

[Cajun]

This reminds me of something I was looking at about Dickens and my favorite Christmas tale, A Christmas Carol. Like most people I always was under the impression that Ebenezer Scrooge represented the wealthy class, but he doesn't. He represents the middle class. This was mindblowing to me because it makes his backstory of how he became a greedy miser over the years even MORE tragic and made him a more sympathetic character to me, whereas I used to think of him as an embodiment of greed. But realistically, in Englad in his day, who were the wealthy? The wealthy are absent from the tale as they are absent from the daily lives of citizens. The Royals, the legislators. You dont even see them, just their effect on the classes.

Scrooge is a small business owner. So small he only has one employee and himself puts in long hours. Scrooge has poverty trauma not from being very poor, but from the idea that marrying the woman he loves would bankrupt him. So he focuses his entire being on financial security. He becomes the model of frugality often regailed by modern conservative thought. He saves all his money, denies himself the fruits of his labors, indulges in no simple merriment that would just be a waste of money (though many modern people who tout this as the way to be do buy themselves their pleasures and vices, but look down on poor people who do). And he had success, on paper. Although he is isolated, has alienated his loved ones, and is shown he will die alone and unloved. "He worked hard."

Bob Cratchit is the true representation of the working poor. Works just as long and as hard as Scrooge, but it afforded only a percentage of the spoils. And come to think of it what is the one thing he desires most of all despite barely being able to feed and house his Family? Well lookie here, its health care for Tiny Tim. Then there's those in abject poverty, the Family under the bridge...the people subject to the work houses and treadmills that Scrooge recommends they seek out, supported by his tax dollars, without knowing what those institutions are like because they're not better invested in.

When I look at those charts, and the hours vs the perceived financial success of the salaries, it makes me think the medical boards make an army of Ebenezer Scrooges out of most Doctors.

Interesting take bud. Makes sense.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Lmao that guy thinks he's done something. Lived a life full of compromises to have a million dollars while other make that in a year.

all jokes aside, it's pretty horrifying and gutwrenchingly sad. i also don't think he's making any of those sacrifices in HIS personal life, to be clear. these are just the things people think will convince others that capitalism is a good system.

"you don't have to be poor, just make every decision in your life as if you're homeless, and live the same lifestyle as if you were, and you'll be rich" like great suggestion man.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

He knows it doesn’t have anything to do with it. @nostradumbass also knows he’s wrong and can’t win on the merits of the actual argument. That’s why he tries to change what we are arguing about. It’s childish and stupid but hey I guess it makes him feel good

he will also lash out, call everyone else every name in the book, try to make you engage him on personal attacks, and swear it's everyone else who's having a "meltdown"

 

[WhiteMousse]

Any new pics of pookie been released?

What's a pookie? Sounds like a character from Winnie the Pooh

 

[Andy Capp]

What's a pookie? Sounds like a character from Winnie the Pooh

I'm pretty sure it's referring to the alleged assassin.

 

[nostradumbass]

right, i very clearly said unrealized capital gains. again, you are completely failing to read anything ive said.

lmfaoooooooooo honestly i don't even have to argue anymore you just said it for me.

getting paid by the government is slavery.

crashing the stock market when you abolish the capitalist economic structure is good actually. fucking lol @ forcing people to work against their will. if they don't want to accept tax money as payment, they can literally quit and find another for-profit health care country to live in, since you seem to think they exist everywhere.

Ah, you totally knew that, and just gave the total market cap of the S&P for your calculation because reasons.

If people who can put their money anywhere didn't leave when they paid lower taxes than they would anywhere else, then surely they wouldn't leave when it's the highest and they would keep more of their money in literally any other country.

And also we need to crash the stock market and "abolish the capitalist structure", because crashing and abolishing the entire source of funding for your plans sounds like a solid plan. You could take 100% of the 1%'s income(which includes doctors btw), confiscate and liquidate 100% of their assets(not sure who you'd sell them to) and you would be out of money again in less than 1 presidential term with nobody left to take it from.



Either way, I think you should run for office on these plans. It sounds like you definitely thought it through.

 

[deadshot138]

What's a pookie? Sounds like a character from Winnie the Pooh

Apparently s/he is into twinks

 

[WhiteMousse]

Apparently s/he is into twinks

And what the hell is a twink? Thought that was a goddamn pastry with cream in it. What the hell is happening to this planet??

 

[deadshot138]

And what the hell is a twink? Thought that was a goddamn pastry with cream in it. What the hell is happening to this planet??

A small gay man

 

[Seano]

in order to not actually be poor in america, you have to live the lifestyle of a person with literally zero dollars to their name lmao

There's actually some truth to this. I feel like this a lot.

 

[44nutman]

tax unrealized gains in the stock market and raise the top tax brackets to a 90% marginal tax rate like we had under eisenhower. we wouldn't have to even touch the middle class.

im sorry, if you mandate anything you're admitting the opposite of it (or just not doing it) is inferior? or is it just this one hyperspecific example? and inferior in what way?

i do suppose that i shouldn't have used the term "business model" in that case. what i meant is that your dollar goes further with the USPS than any other business in this country. the amount of money they generate in revenue versus the labor and production they get out of it, is astounding.

also you noted yourself the specific time the USPS's actual business model started to struggle. it coincides perfectly with the booms of fedex and ups. when was fedex founded? when did UPS expand nationwide? the same time the USPS got gutted and forced to fund itself, the mid 1970's.

Taxing unrealized gains will destroy the stock market. Tax when they sell.
People’s retirement is tied to the stock market. Even left leaning billionaires like Mark Cuban will tell you it’s a dumb idea.
I have a bunch of money in the market for my retirement. So some of my opinion is based on not fucking my retirement.
I am not sure why taxing unrealized gains has started gaining traction.

 

[Ballsaque]

When is the next one getting taken out?

 

[Andy Capp]

Thanks papa bear

This is cool too: you can limit your search to just the current thread with the drop down menu next to the search box (where it says "Everywhere" with up and down arrows).

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Queen B never stops. ...

Americans will be pushed to cheer for murder but not pushed enough to actually vote for UHC.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Americans will be pushed to cheer for murder but not pushed enough to actually vote for UHC.

We are not a bright group of people and tend to emotionally buy into the shit we see/hear without context.

People who stand to profit with the system as is will spend hundreds of millions of dollars fighting change. They pay for ads, lawyers, “grass root” campaigns. They buy influencers and politicians whom people trust and listen to so that their message gets disseminated.

 

[44nutman]

We are not a bright group of people and tend to emotionally buy into the shit we see/hear without context.

People who stand to profit with the system as is will spend hundreds of millions of dollars fighting change. They pay for ads, lawyers, “grass root” campaigns. They buy influencers and politicians whom people trust and listen to so that their message gets disseminated.

Just looked at Corporate Media's united front on this story.
They focus on the CEO getting murdered, pointing out people dont care or cheering on the murder, but they no longer run stories of people dying because of denied coverage or people working all their life then having to file bankruptcy when they retire just so they can pay for medical bills.
Heatlh Care is less than ideal and news organizations when they used to do news, instead of covering for their corporate owners, would run stories about how fucked is our health care. Now their bosses are like no, you can no longer run those stories, but use tried and true rage porn, to get the Rubes to ignore the problems with our current health care, and maybe they can turn the murder of a CEO into a left and right issue.
The only redeeming part of this story, is right wing corporate influences like Tiny Shapiro and everything goes back to Trannies Matt Walsh, tried that bullshit, and got bodied by their fans in the comments section.
As I said earlier in this thread, Rome did not do Bread and Circus to feed the poor but to keep the poor from murdering the rich. The US is reaching pre–French Revolution levels of wealth disparity and that is never a good thing. Sure, social media will keep the Rubes distracted but for how long? It is becoming Robber Barons 2.0 in the US.