International UK Government unveils plans to force pubs to close early

[Fox by the Sea]

Lol, a nation of children, innit.

 

[ssBaldy]

They want to limit the social interaction between people who are likely to take part in protests.

 

[Renard]

Closing at midnight was already early lol

 

[Bubzeh]

Good. The sooner we all embrace Islam the better. Next step, ban alcohol sales past certain hours (maybe 5pm or something), then slowly stop selling it all together.

This is what we voted.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

What could possibly be fuelling a decision that'll undoubtedly be a major hammer blow to UK pubs?

Force more to close opening up the property/land to be sold to property developers so they can build glass towers that sit empty because they were bought as a investment not as places to live?

 

[jefferz]

Pubs, yeah. Pubs are very different to bars, in the UK - bars can stay open til 6am if they have the right licence. Some nightclubs are more or less open 24hrs give or take a few hours. I really don't see this sticking, though. A lot of people have had enough of small pleasures being stripped away incrementally and with the country struggling financially they need all the pounds into the economy they can get.

What's the difference between a pub and a bar in the UK?

 

[The_Renaissance]

What's the difference between a pub and a bar in the UK?

A pub tends to be smaller, cosier, and more community orientated (regulars, no pumping music etc, serve food until 10pm).

Bars are bars - DJs / bands, open until 2-4am, party atmosphere.

A typical night out in the UK would be something like 'local pub until 10pm, get lubed up, then hit the bars in the centre of town/city'.

 

[jefferz]

A pub tends to be smaller, cosier, and more community orientated (regulars, no pumping music etc, serve food until 10pm).

Bars are bars - DJs / bands, open until 2-4am, party atmosphere.

A typical night out in the UK would be something like 'local pub until 10pm, get lubed up, then hit the bars in the centre of town/city'.

Can you get liquor, like whiskey or vodka, in a pub?

 

[JSnake]

Revenge.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Can you get liquor, like whiskey or vodka, in a pub?

Yeah, there's not much difference. It's just that bars tend to be grouped together in the same areas, whereas a pub is usually in a residential area.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Can you get liquor, like whiskey or vodka, in a pub?

Yeah of course. It tends to be more of a 'sit down affair' though with pints of beer/lager/ale etc. It's not particularly 'party. Google image 'British pub' to see what the interior looks like - as you can see, it's not exactly wild looking. It's like a place for warm up drinks or for older people who have an earlier night. Some pubs in places like London can be fucking mad places, though.

 

[The Big Yin]

Ironic considering it was that war criminal Blair and his Labour government that introduced late licences to encourage a "cafe culture"

They also Kickstarted the turbo taxation on alcohol therefore creating the "preload" culture of getting fucked up on booze at home before hitting the bars at 10-11pm creating war zones in the town centres

A pint used to cost me £1.50 in the 90s.

 

[jx820]

plans to force UK pubs to close early. British pubs typically open until midnight.

Midnight is already early for a bar.

I'm not too familiar with British drinking culture, but this seems like a misdiagnosis. Business hours are not the root cause of dangerous binge drinking.

 

[oldshadow]

That's early here last call is 2am.

One thing I learned when I worked one was if you had a DJ was you got him to slow down the music when it gets close to last call.

You get them to play as much belly rubbing music as possible the last half hour. This helps no matter the music country or rock.

I never worked rap or hip hop clubs so I have no idea about them.

I even had bands that would make their last set full of belly rubbing music.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

A country wanting a healthier population is a slippery slope. Rules like this are needed to help change the culture. There is no safe level of alcohol or tobacco consumption. It can look authoritarian, and it is. I just say increase the tax on alcohol after a certain point. Glorifying alcohol and tobacco in media is being reduced, but more needs to be done to change the culture.

 

[The Big Yin]

Midnight is already early for a bar.

I'm not too familiar with British drinking culture, but this seems like a misdiagnosis. Business hours are not the root cause of dangerous binge drinking.

Prior to the late 90s, drinking culture was a two stage affair

Pubs where you'd generally drink from 7-11, then late bars/night clubs for those wanting to pull or dance.

In the 2000s, alcohol price increases meant that a whole night in the pub drinking slowly, before moving to a late venue, become horrendously expensive. So people then bought bottles of vodka at home before heading straight to the bars to nurse a single drink inside.

The British pub has been absolutely decimated to the point most can only survive through serving food. They used to be hubs of the community

 

[The_Renaissance]

That's early here last call is 2am.

One thing I learned when I worked one was if you had a DJ was you got him to slow down the music when it gets close to last call.

You get them to play as much belly rubbing music as possible the last half hour. This helps no matter the music country or rock.

I never worked rap or hip hop clubs so I have no idea about them.

I even had bands that would make their last set full of belly rubbing music.

This sounds like a bar though. Our bars are open til like 2-4am, here. Pubs are a different thing - you don't get the sort of live music you're describing with a big crowd in a British pub. It's difficult to describe to non-Brits/Europeans but there's a difference between pubs and bars over here. You'd never go to a pub to spend the entire night with the intention of getting fucked up, partying and dancing.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Prior to the late 90s, drinking culture was a two stage affair

Pubs where you'd generally drink from 7-11, then late bars/night clubs for those wanting to pull or dance.

In the 2000s, alcohol price increases meant that a whole night in the pub drinking slowly, before moving to a late venue, become horrendously expensive. So people then bought bottles of vodka at home before heading straight to the bars to nurse a single drink inside.

The British pub has been absolutely decimated to the point most can only survive through serving food. They used to be hubs of the community

Great summary, this is kinda what I was trying to get across.

 

[jx820]

The British pub has been absolutely decimated to the point most can only survive through serving food. They used to be hubs of the community

Damn.... That's sad. I think everyone could use more of a sense of community these days.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Outside of going straight to a brewery, is the pub the only place you can still find Cask Ale? Is that still even readily available?