Opinion Brain drain? Trump cutbacks force scientists to seek jobs in Europe

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By Olivia Le Poidevin, Kate Abnett and Gloria Dickie

  • Trump's cuts prompt some scientists in U.S. to seek opportunities in Europe
  • EU countries are increasing funding to attract U.S. researchers
  • Major challenges remain for Europe to match U.S. research investment
GENEVA, April 11 (Reuters) - David Die Dejean is passionate about studying tuna. Last year, he landed a dream job at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in Miami to pursue his research. By January, he was settled in, had received a good review and loved working with his colleagues, he said.

Then in mid-February he received an email to vacate the premises within 90 minutes.

He and hundreds of others had been dismissed in job cuts targeting probationary workers as U.S. President Donald Trump's new administration began slashing funding for universities and research bodies.

Now Die Dejean is applying for positions in Europe.
"I want to work wherever they allow me to do the research," said the scientist, who studies fish stocks to ensure tuna is being fished sustainably.
"I'm eagerly waiting for some of the things that are coming from the European Union...increasing the opportunities for scientists like me to come back," said Die Dejean, who was born in Spain but has spent most of his career in the U.S. and Australia.
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Trump's administration says billions of dollars in cuts are needed to curb the federal deficit and bring the U.S. debt under control.

His cutbacks on research come amid a broader clash that has seen Trump criticise universities as discriminatory for their diversity policies and denounce what he sees as a failure by some institutions to protect Jewish students from antisemitism.

The threat to academics' livelihoods at universities including Yale, Columbia and Johns Hopkins has given Europe's political leaders hope they could reap an intellectual windfall.

A letter, reviewed by Reuters, signed in March by 13 European countries including France, Germany and Spain, urged the EU Commission to move fast to attract academic talent.

The European Research Council, an EU body that finances scientific work, told Reuters it would double the relocation budget for funding researchers moving to the EU to 2 million euros ($2.16 million) per applicant. That goes towards covering the cost of moving to a European institution, which may involve setting up a laboratory.
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- Don't worry, Peter. My dear friend. Trumps administration will never put someone incompetent in charge of the health!

In Germany, as part of coalition talks for a new government, conservatives and Social Democrats have drawn up plans to lure up to 1,000 researchers, according to negotiation documents from March seen by Reuters that allude to the upheaval in U.S. higher learning.

Reuters spoke to 13 European universities and research institutes that reported seeing an increase in U.S-based employees considering crossing the Atlantic, as well as half a dozen U.S.-based academics pondering a move to Europe.

"Regulatory uncertainty, funding cuts, immigration restrictions, and diminished international collaboration create a perfect storm for brain drain," said Gray McDowell at U.S. digital consultancy firm Capgemini Invent.

A White House official said the administration is analysing research grants and prioritizing funding for areas likely to deliver returns for taxpayers "or some sort of meaningful scientific advancement". The NOAA cuts were designed to avoid compromising its ability to do its duties, the official added.

EUROPEAN MOMENTUM

Pulling in U.S. talent to Europe requires more than good will though. It requires money.
For decades, Europe has lagged far behind the U.S. on investment in its seats of higher learning.

Total expenditure on research and development in the EU among businesses, governments, universities and private non-profit organizations in 2023 was 381 billion euros ($411 billion), according to the latest figures by Eurostat - the statistical office of the European Union.
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That same year, total research and experimental development in the U.S. was estimated at $940 billion, according to the National Center for Science and Engineering Statistics, a federal agency that provides data on the performance of science and engineering in the U.S.
And while the U.S's richest university, Harvard, has an endowment worth $53.2 billion, that of Britain's wealthiest, Oxford, is only 8.3 billion pounds ($10.74 billion).

One academic and an expert in academia said, even with a concerted and substantial effort, Europe would likely need a long time to overturn that spending advantage.

"I don't foresee a rapid build-up of additional scientific capability that could match what the U.S. now has...for several decades", Michael Oppenheimer, a Professor of Geosciences and International Affairs at Princeton, told Reuters.

The White House official said even with the cuts, the U.S. would still account for the most global research funding, adding: "Europe is not going to and cannot fill the void."
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- This formula will permit that i find humanity true potential. And even if it's fail and i became a gigantic, angry monster. That cant be as destrutive as Trump administration. Right?

Dozens of scientists have taken to social media encouraging peers to stay in the U.S., while others acknowledge a number of drawbacks may deter them from moving.

Michael Olesen, director of an infection prevention program for a healthcare system in Washington, D.C., said language barriers were one potential drawback, as were unfamiliar laws and employment practices.

Salary is another.
"My impression is that I would get paid a lot less as an anaesthesiologist in Europe," said Holden K. Groves, an Assistant Professor of Anaesthesiology at Columbia University, which received funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH). "It's a huge ordeal to change."

'HUGE OPPORTUNITY'

Still, Europe's political leaders feel the stance of the Trump administration has put the wind in their sails.

"The American government is currently using brute force against the universities in the USA, so that researchers from America are now contacting Europe," Germany's chancellor-in-waiting, Friedrich Merz, said last month.

"This is a huge opportunity for us."

John Tuthill, a American neuroscience professor at the University of Washington in Seattle, is assessing his options. He cannot apply for new funding to plan beyond 2027 because grant applications have now been frozen.
The lab of 17 people he runs gets about three-quarters of its funding from the NIH, where the Trump administration has earmarked major cuts.

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- Please american scietists. Come to Europstan, to create a army of Dolph Lundgrens to fight for us!

"Europe is the obvious one, because it is the other hub of biomedical research in the world," said Tuthill, who is originally from Maine, adding he is weighing up a move with his wife and daughter.

Aix Marseille University in France told Reuters it had received interest from 120 researchers at institutions in the U.S., including NASA and Stanford, for a 15-million euro 'safe space for science' programme launched on March 7. The initiative aims to attract U.S. staff from fields including health, LGBT+ medicine, epidemiology and climate change.

"Our colleagues were frightened...It was our duty to rise to the occasion," university director Eric Berton said, noting 10 European universities have contacted him about launching similar programs.

In the Netherlands, the government wants to establish a fund to attract top foreign scientists and bolster the EU's 'strategic autonomy' aims, Education Minister Eppo Bruins said in a letter to parliament on 20 March.

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- Heey, leftists. These are women. They dont come with worms btw their legs. It's science!

That marks a policy shift as the government had previously announced plans to cut half a billion euros in research and higher education.
Eindhoven Tech University President Robert-Jan Smits told Reuters that bringing in U.S. scientists could boost Europe's technological sovereignty in areas like semiconductors.

Belgium's sister universities Vrije Universiteit Brussel and Université Libre de Bruxelles have launched a scheme encouraging U.S.-based researchers to apply for 36 postdoctoral positions. And the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation, which promotes the exchange of top scientists to Germany, plans to increase its programs by about 20 percent.

The Grantham Institute at Imperial College London, which specialises in climate change research, is creating at least two more research fellowship posts for early-career climate researchers from the U.S. and has already seen an clear uptick in applications, said its Director of Research, Joeri Rogelj.

Sarah Weisberg, a fisheries biologist at the National Marine Fisheries Service, based in Woods Hole Massachusetts, said she was fired in February's probationary cuts and has since been offered a job in Europe.

"I had not ever considered taking [my career] to Europe," she told Reuters. "Now, I kind of have no choice but to think that way."
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https://www.reuters.com/world/scientists-us-harried-by-trump-cuts-turn-towards-europe-2025-04-11/
 
The environmentalist quack trade is on borrowed time throughout Europe too. Especially if they want to make good on their national re-industrialization and re-militarization pouting. They’ll all but have to abandon all that “sustainability” dogshit only possible by being apart of NATO and globalization.

But I like how the article doesn’t really match the thread title

“Brain drain? No. Not really”
 
They are stripping every single person that protects you. SS? They are stripping it of workers. The DMV? I tried to make an appointment. There was no appt available in a 100 mile radius.
 
By Olivia Le Poidevin, Kate Abnett and Gloria Dickie

  • Trump's cuts prompt some scientists in U.S. to seek opportunities in Europe
  • EU countries are increasing funding to attract U.S. researchers
  • Major challenges remain for Europe to match U.S. research investment
GENEVA, April 11 (Reuters) - David Die Dejean is passionate about studying tuna. Last year, he landed a dream job at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in Miami to pursue his research. By January, he was settled in, had received a good review and loved working with his colleagues, he said.

Then in mid-February he received an email to vacate the premises within 90 minutes.

He and hundreds of others had been dismissed in job cuts targeting probationary workers as U.S. President Donald Trump's new administration began slashing funding for universities and research bodies.

Now Die Dejean is applying for positions in Europe.
"I want to work wherever they allow me to do the research," said the scientist, who studies fish stocks to ensure tuna is being fished sustainably.
"I'm eagerly waiting for some of the things that are coming from the European Union...increasing the opportunities for scientists like me to come back," said Die Dejean, who was born in Spain but has spent most of his career in the U.S. and Australia.
bane-batman-and-robin.jpg

Trump's administration says billions of dollars in cuts are needed to curb the federal deficit and bring the U.S. debt under control.

His cutbacks on research come amid a broader clash that has seen Trump criticise universities as discriminatory for their diversity policies and denounce what he sees as a failure by some institutions to protect Jewish students from antisemitism.

The threat to academics' livelihoods at universities including Yale, Columbia and Johns Hopkins has given Europe's political leaders hope they could reap an intellectual windfall.

A letter, reviewed by Reuters, signed in March by 13 European countries including France, Germany and Spain, urged the EU Commission to move fast to attract academic talent.

The European Research Council, an EU body that finances scientific work, told Reuters it would double the relocation budget for funding researchers moving to the EU to 2 million euros ($2.16 million) per applicant. That goes towards covering the cost of moving to a European institution, which may involve setting up a laboratory.
Doctor-octopus-Cropped.v1.jpg

- Don't worry, Peter. My dear friend. Trumps administration will never put someone incompetent in charge of the health!

In Germany, as part of coalition talks for a new government, conservatives and Social Democrats have drawn up plans to lure up to 1,000 researchers, according to negotiation documents from March seen by Reuters that allude to the upheaval in U.S. higher learning.

Reuters spoke to 13 European universities and research institutes that reported seeing an increase in U.S-based employees considering crossing the Atlantic, as well as half a dozen U.S.-based academics pondering a move to Europe.

"Regulatory uncertainty, funding cuts, immigration restrictions, and diminished international collaboration create a perfect storm for brain drain," said Gray McDowell at U.S. digital consultancy firm Capgemini Invent.

A White House official said the administration is analysing research grants and prioritizing funding for areas likely to deliver returns for taxpayers "or some sort of meaningful scientific advancement". The NOAA cuts were designed to avoid compromising its ability to do its duties, the official added.

EUROPEAN MOMENTUM

Pulling in U.S. talent to Europe requires more than good will though. It requires money.
For decades, Europe has lagged far behind the U.S. on investment in its seats of higher learning.

Total expenditure on research and development in the EU among businesses, governments, universities and private non-profit organizations in 2023 was 381 billion euros ($411 billion), according to the latest figures by Eurostat - the statistical office of the European Union.
images


That same year, total research and experimental development in the U.S. was estimated at $940 billion, according to the National Center for Science and Engineering Statistics, a federal agency that provides data on the performance of science and engineering in the U.S.
And while the U.S's richest university, Harvard, has an endowment worth $53.2 billion, that of Britain's wealthiest, Oxford, is only 8.3 billion pounds ($10.74 billion).

One academic and an expert in academia said, even with a concerted and substantial effort, Europe would likely need a long time to overturn that spending advantage.

"I don't foresee a rapid build-up of additional scientific capability that could match what the U.S. now has...for several decades", Michael Oppenheimer, a Professor of Geosciences and International Affairs at Princeton, told Reuters.

The White House official said even with the cuts, the U.S. would still account for the most global research funding, adding: "Europe is not going to and cannot fill the void."
images

- This formula will permit that i find humanity true potential. And even if it's fail and i became a gigantic, angry monster. That cant be as destrutive as Trump administration. Right?

Dozens of scientists have taken to social media encouraging peers to stay in the U.S., while others acknowledge a number of drawbacks may deter them from moving.

Michael Olesen, director of an infection prevention program for a healthcare system in Washington, D.C., said language barriers were one potential drawback, as were unfamiliar laws and employment practices.

Salary is another.
"My impression is that I would get paid a lot less as an anaesthesiologist in Europe," said Holden K. Groves, an Assistant Professor of Anaesthesiology at Columbia University, which received funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH). "It's a huge ordeal to change."

'HUGE OPPORTUNITY'

Still, Europe's political leaders feel the stance of the Trump administration has put the wind in their sails.

"The American government is currently using brute force against the universities in the USA, so that researchers from America are now contacting Europe," Germany's chancellor-in-waiting, Friedrich Merz, said last month.

"This is a huge opportunity for us."

John Tuthill, a American neuroscience professor at the University of Washington in Seattle, is assessing his options. He cannot apply for new funding to plan beyond 2027 because grant applications have now been frozen.
The lab of 17 people he runs gets about three-quarters of its funding from the NIH, where the Trump administration has earmarked major cuts.

images

- Please american scietists. Come to Europstan, to create a army of Dolph Lundgrens to fight for us!

"Europe is the obvious one, because it is the other hub of biomedical research in the world," said Tuthill, who is originally from Maine, adding he is weighing up a move with his wife and daughter.

Aix Marseille University in France told Reuters it had received interest from 120 researchers at institutions in the U.S., including NASA and Stanford, for a 15-million euro 'safe space for science' programme launched on March 7. The initiative aims to attract U.S. staff from fields including health, LGBT+ medicine, epidemiology and climate change.

"Our colleagues were frightened...It was our duty to rise to the occasion," university director Eric Berton said, noting 10 European universities have contacted him about launching similar programs.

In the Netherlands, the government wants to establish a fund to attract top foreign scientists and bolster the EU's 'strategic autonomy' aims, Education Minister Eppo Bruins said in a letter to parliament on 20 March.

OHVE3KPCKUWAWDNJITTYB5I62Y.jpg

- Heey, leftists. These are women. They dont come with worms btw their legs. It's science!

That marks a policy shift as the government had previously announced plans to cut half a billion euros in research and higher education.
Eindhoven Tech University President Robert-Jan Smits told Reuters that bringing in U.S. scientists could boost Europe's technological sovereignty in areas like semiconductors.

Belgium's sister universities Vrije Universiteit Brussel and Université Libre de Bruxelles have launched a scheme encouraging U.S.-based researchers to apply for 36 postdoctoral positions. And the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation, which promotes the exchange of top scientists to Germany, plans to increase its programs by about 20 percent.

The Grantham Institute at Imperial College London, which specialises in climate change research, is creating at least two more research fellowship posts for early-career climate researchers from the U.S. and has already seen an clear uptick in applications, said its Director of Research, Joeri Rogelj.

Sarah Weisberg, a fisheries biologist at the National Marine Fisheries Service, based in Woods Hole Massachusetts, said she was fired in February's probationary cuts and has since been offered a job in Europe.

"I had not ever considered taking [my career] to Europe," she told Reuters. "Now, I kind of have no choice but to think that way."
images

https://www.reuters.com/world/scientists-us-harried-by-trump-cuts-turn-towards-europe-2025-04-11/
Stupid Donald Palpatine
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The environmentalist quack trade is on borrowed time throughout Europe too. Especially if they want to make good on their national re-industrialization and re-militarization pouting. They’ll all but have to abandon all that “sustainability” dogshit only possible by being apart of NATO and globalization.

But I like how the article doesn’t really match the thread title

“Brain drain? No. Not really”
Europe does have a lot of fundamental STEAM type stuff during centuries.
This in U.S actually is developed by europeans and their offsprings. Nothing else. White americans are european immigrants offsprings....real history.

Ofc stuff like MIT and Caltech etc are good in U.S ...why...cos greatness is real merit. Real achievements. Real life.

If they will start to treat students and reasearchers only cos passport or bloodline, will be fun.
Kusk and Pump are immigrants offsprings...with european bloodline.
 
STEAM abbr in europe for applied actual science is: Science and Technology, Engineering, Art and Architecture plus Math and Medicine.
All stuff used for practical tasks where you might see outcome not in empty talks and waste of time with empty dreams.
 
Trump is the most Un American president we’ve ever had ,it’s always about himself first . It’s very ironic these idiots on here and outside this forum actually think they are the patriots when they are actually fighting for an authoritarian country run by him that is eliminating so many rights and installing his own corruption in our system you have to keep a list by the day .

Then add the circus of his hand picked administration ? He’s just weakening the country one step at a time .

Make it make sense .

 
Trump is the most Un American president we’ve ever had ,it’s always about himself first . It’s very ironic these idiots on here and outside this forum actually think they are the patriots when they are actually fighting for an authoritarian country run by him that is eliminating so many rights and installing his own corruption in our system you have to keep a list by the day .

Then add the circus of his hand picked administration ? He’s just weakening the country one step at a time .

Make it make sense .

Everything he has done since he got back into office has benefitted America's enemies and been to the detriment of it and its (now former) allies.
 
Trump is the most Un American president we’ve ever had ,it’s always about himself first . It’s very ironic these idiots on here and outside this forum actually think they are the patriots when they are actually fighting for an authoritarian country run by him that is eliminating so many rights and installing his own corruption in our system you have to keep a list by the day .

Then add the circus of his hand picked administration ? He’s just weakening the country one step at a time .

Make it make sense .

- This backwards patriotism is a righ-wing thing here also!
 
America has seen a decline in research and development over the decades and China is filling that gap. We are still very good but the trump regimes policies are setting us backwards.
- Is just the natural path. America used to get minds from other contries. People need money to live. So they're gonna go were they can make a living.
 
Enrico Fermi came to the US because he had a Jewish wife who was affected by all the anti-Semitic laws in Italy and Germany.

If it wasn’t for that, then Mussolini and the Axis Powers could have gotten nuclear weapons before the Allies.

 
- Is just the natural path. America used to get minds from other contries. People need money to live. So they're gonna go were they can make a living.
And where they don't have to fear being deported for having opinions critical of the government. The brain drain in the US will be severe and help ensure the dumbing down of the population as a whole (along with cutting funding to public schools), which will allow greater control by its oligarchs. You can see it coming from a mile away. Join the cheerleading squad or be sent away. Sound familiar?
 
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The Daily Mail refers to them as the “Donald Dashers”—the increasing number of American celebrities and wealthy citizens leaving the US and relocating to upscale areas in the U.K. or other parts of Europe.

According to the Mail, left-leaning, well-heeled US citizens have become increasingly dismayed by life under President Donald Trump and have been jetting across the pond to settle, mostly in affluent parts of London such as Notting Hill, Kensington, and Hampstead. The strong dollar compared to the pound makes the move even more compelling financially.

Record Applications For UK Citizenship

The British Home Office revealed that applicants for U.K. citizenship dramatically increased by 40% in the last quarter of 2024 compared to the same time the previous year. According to Home Office data, over 6,100 U.S. citizens applied for UK citizenship last year, the most since records began in 2004 when fewer than 3,000 Americans applied. In the last three months of 2024, more than 1,700 people applied—the most in any quarter in the past two decades.

Hollywood Celebs Have Quietly Started New Lives

Well-known Hollywood celebs who have traded the sun-baked, palm tree-laced boulevards of California for the gray skies of England include Ellen Degeneres and her wife Portia de Rossi, Ryan Gosling and his wife Eva Mendes, and "Ugly Betty" star America Ferrera. Former talk show host and actress Rosie O’Donnell has moved to Ireland, where she is seeking citizenship.

Portugal And Spain Has Seen Over A 300% Increase In Americans Looking To Relocate

Richard Gere, meanwhile, has relocated to Spain with his wife Alejandra Silva, who is Spanish, and their children.

Bureaucracy.es, which helps Americans relocate to Portugal and Spain, has seen over a 300% increase in clients booking consultations for more information on the visa process in Spain since the election results, according to CNN.

“With the increasing volatility in the Oval Office and a wealth of U.K. immigration options on offer, I anticipate that we’ll see more and more of this over the next four years,” Lawyer Lynsey Blyth, an immigration partner at national law firm Michelmores, told the Daily Mail.



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Financial experts are seeing a spike in affluent working Americans looking to resettle in Europe. They say it's time for Europe to prepare for their arrival.

Russian-American *Julia had wanted to leave the United States for a couple of years, but the start of President Donald Trump’s second term forced her to start taking the idea seriously.

"I noticed people who are immigrants [like me], they were a lot more worried after the election happened," she told Euronews Next. "We saw the warning signs right away".

The anesthesiologist worked on the frontlines of the COVID-19 crisis in New York City but now wants to find a job in pharmaceuticals or biotech somewhere in Europe.

Julia is one of dozens of people who posted on the Reddit channel Amer/Exit, a play on words referring to Brexit, the UK’s departure from the European Union. Like her, users of the subreddit are trying to figure out how to leave the US for Europe or Canada in the wake of Trump’s second mandate.

Experts say it’s "too early" to tell whether this could be considered a "brain drain" but that the EU needs to prepare.

'We just could not keep up with the calls'

Arielle Tucker is the founder of Connected Financial Planning, a company that helps Americans relocate to Europe.

Tucker received more than 30 new American clients in the week after Trump’s reelection, a level of interest that’s been sustained throughout the last few months.

Many of Tucker’s clients are in their mid-30s or early 40s and work in executive roles in tech, pharmaceuticals or finance.

They are working for multinationals with offices in Europe or can self-finance their move from a major American city like New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Boston.

Her clients thought about a move "passively" for a while but then they "realised they just do not like the political climate in the US".

Alex Ingrim, founder of wealth management firm Liberty Atlantic Advisors, said more clients are contacting him with their visa processes well underway.

Countries like Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, and Germany are becoming especially popular with Americans, Tucker and Ingrim said.
 
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