UFN 90 - RDA vs Alvarez - Las Vegas
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Still liking Pedro over doane, pedro should be more skilled and better in most areas and should get the W.
I watched some of lopes previous fights and he looked bit wild and unpredictable and not the best in some areas but I see many mention of his guillotines, may have overlooked lopes here especially with that 18-2 record and 12 subs, birchak is tough as nails and I originally picked him but if lopes has a chin I think lopes maybe worth a play, will be checking his sub and r1 finish props.
True about baghdad planting his feet, I did actually like how he mixes in softer punches with heavier and faster punches something that threw me off in his past fights, but I do feel makdessi should have the footwork and volume to edge the fight here. I guess if baghdad is landing that lovely long jab due to his big height advantage over the smaller mak may have to lb him small too. Great fight for lb.
Still like jouban over belal, think jouban will be the much bigger and taller guy coming in and has a good pace and power, belal decision maybe worth a stab (5 decisions recently but last was ko of carl)
Still like pyle over mina, much better experienced vet with killer instinct but yeah that chin is a concern, maybe take a stab on mina decision or r3 pyle finish.
Lewis is an interesting dog with his power and speed at times, but yeah not going against the roy supporters, just don't like hw clashes where 1 punch can change a fight.
Still like RDA but hoping eddie can make that line more interesting.
I watched some of lopes previous fights and he looked bit wild and unpredictable and not the best in some areas but I see many mention of his guillotines, may have overlooked lopes here especially with that 18-2 record and 12 subs, birchak is tough as nails and I originally picked him but if lopes has a chin I think lopes maybe worth a play, will be checking his sub and r1 finish props.
True about baghdad planting his feet, I did actually like how he mixes in softer punches with heavier and faster punches something that threw me off in his past fights, but I do feel makdessi should have the footwork and volume to edge the fight here. I guess if baghdad is landing that lovely long jab due to his big height advantage over the smaller mak may have to lb him small too. Great fight for lb.
Still like jouban over belal, think jouban will be the much bigger and taller guy coming in and has a good pace and power, belal decision maybe worth a stab (5 decisions recently but last was ko of carl)
Still like pyle over mina, much better experienced vet with killer instinct but yeah that chin is a concern, maybe take a stab on mina decision or r3 pyle finish.
Lewis is an interesting dog with his power and speed at times, but yeah not going against the roy supporters, just don't like hw clashes where 1 punch can change a fight.
Still like RDA but hoping eddie can make that line more interesting.
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Agreed... very solid lines this card.
I also asked myself that about Luque... but Herrera is pretty freaking bad.
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Interesting thoughts on Lopes. Birchak does get sloppy with his grappling, like his fight with benoit before getting into the ufc.
Count me in on Munhoz, he has a clear advantage striking imo.
I guess I am in the minority on Mina, I think he has value with a +. He displayed a good chin vs Akiyama and he throws similar kinds of flurries to the one Mein koed Pyle with. I will be looking for the pyle round 3 prop as a hedge.
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I might end up with you guys once Sanders by dec line comes out. You're all right regarding Sanders having a path to victory, and if Jabouin could take Arantes down I have to believe Sanders can too. Very torn on this fight, prob just look for some degen value on a prop
EDIT anyone know where Arantes trains? That might become a factor for me. Know hes from NJ, but not sure if he trains here
EDIT AGAIN if wikipedia is to be believed and he trains out of a no name camp here in NJ, thats a concern. Thought he might be with Almeida Jiu Jitsu
EDIT anyone know where Arantes trains? That might become a factor for me. Know hes from NJ, but not sure if he trains here
EDIT AGAIN if wikipedia is to be believed and he trains out of a no name camp here in NJ, thats a concern. Thought he might be with Almeida Jiu Jitsu
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For me, Akiyama won that fight. Just look at the third round, Mina was so gassed it's not even funny!
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I think Pyle wins in the third or second or maybe even by dec so imma be on that and I also like Nelson +600 dec aswell as BB +1200 dec. Imma be on that. BOL to us.
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Arantes trains with Thomas Almeida doesn't he? I think it was him that was doggin Garbrandt at the hotel or some shit.
Anyways, I'm gonna be on Sanders too but I'm expecting to lose. He's got no striking and he will dive for legs at all costs. He doesn't have much set ups for his TDs either. I'm only putting up enough cash on him that I won't kick myself with if he loses. It would be a huge mistake for anyone to play this guy with your stakes.
He won't last long in the UFC but lucky for him he's facing a guy with bad TDD. But I could see Arantes landing something significant or snatching up a submission in the later rounds.
So basically how I see it in my head, Arantes the better finisher and is more well rounded, but Sanders excels at getting the fight to the floor where Arantes is a willing guard player and can lose him rounds if he isn't able to sweep or submit Sanders.
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True, gassed to hell and he looked like a zombie. He did show a good chin tho, which could be important here in first 2 rounds.
It is bad gas tank vs bad chin + 40 years old. I understand both sides, but with the line movement I will take mina. I think mina will have the advantage at range and hopefully his BB in Judo will keep him safe in the clinch, where pyle is most dangerous. I think he gets the tko before he gases or hopefully gives me a chance to hedge when he starts to fade.
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Regarding his training, idk if he did move camps to Brazil to train with Almeida, but if thats the case still kind of cause for concern. That Chute Boxe affiliate camp has literally no one of note but Almeida, who is not going to help him with Sanders' style.
I could be misreading things, but it seems like a lot of people are weighing the intangibles over the skills. Pyle is literally better everywhere. Even at range, Mina is so sloppy and wild, I have a hard time seeing him beat Pyle there. I have no doubts in the clinch Pyle will eat him alive too, Mina was getting grappled in there by Shinsho Anzai at one point iirc
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Disagree with pyle being better at range. Pyle is pretty poor at range tj waldburger was out striking him at range lol. He is very good in the clinch tho. Pyle will only win at range imo once/if mina gasses. Mina has power akiyama was prob saved by the bell.
Its a lb fight for me chin vs cardio
Its a lb fight for me chin vs cardio
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Fair enough, i'm sure range striking is an area a lot of people feel the same way as you, even if i'm underwhelmed with how wild he is there. But lets put it this way, how can Mina keep it there? We are talking about a guy who fought short notice Shinsho Anzai who had a very obvious mindset/strategy of ''I'm coming in on short notice, I can't go three rounds, lets just charge forward with reckless abandon and kill or be killed'" and Mina had zero tools to hold him off. If he had no answer for Shinsho just charging forward, I don't see how he can dictate the spacing vs a crafty vet like Pyle
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I don't see much logic behind the pyle is literally better everywhere argument.
Yea Mina was wild against Ansai, but much more controlled against akiyama and outsruck him for 2 rounds until he gassed.
Chin and gastank aren't intangibles imo, and I think if the fight plays out like I expect it to they will be key issues.
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Shinzo is an ADCC level wildman grappler, yea he got one brief takedown but he did nothing with it and got his back taken 10 seconds later.
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Pyle >>> Akiyama.
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Damn it I really need to step up my tape game. The euro cup is taking so much of my time since I watch all the games that im lagging way behind in research for these three events.
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True, but Akiyama has never had a sense of spacing, or how to strike outside the pocket. Jake Shields kept him at mid range and basically had his way with him on the feet from there. Plus, Akiyama was coming off a pretty harsh layoff. Having Amir Sadollah, who was also coming off a giant layoff, as your only win in a 6 year time frame at the time of that fight is pretty harsh. And many thought he was undeserving of the win he did have in that time (Belcher).
Personally, I value skills over chin. Gastank is one of the most important elements a fighter can have, so I concede that point if I made it sound like thats an intangible. Was referring more to the chin argument against Pyle. I just see a few posts about this being 'gastank vs chin' but I don't look at it that way.
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