UFN 90 - RDA vs Alvarez - Las Vegas

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Baghdad-Makdessi
Odds are off in this one IMO. I think Makdessi is being overrated here. He has only ever shown the ability to strike and is incorrectly viewed as great-excellent on the feet by most people. I see him as a low output striker who prefers to kick and is relectant to throw his hands. His side-on stance leaves his legs wide open for kicks which isn't a good idea against a pretty good Muay Thai striker in Baghdad. Makdessi has also never really attempted to grapple with any opponents and has only been credited with 2 takedown attempts on his official UFC page. I noticed one takedown attempt at about 4:59 of round 2 against Njoukuani despite being outworked and outsruck throughout that fight. Baghdad is far from perfect. He doesn't throw much output, his hands are subpar, and below-average defensive grappling. His positives are his diverse offensive skill set, above average defense/chin, powerful. I think he matches up well with makdessi and view them as close to equal on the feet. Makdessi has edges in output, octagon control, and technical boxing. Baghdad has edges in power, kicks, ability to mix up offense. In the end, I see slight value in Baghdad as a moderate underdog.
 
VandelayIndstry said:
Baghdad-Makdessi
Odds are off in this one IMO. I think Makdessi is being overrated here. He has only ever shown the ability to strike and is incorrectly viewed as great-excellent on the feet by most people. I see him as a low output striker who prefers to kick and is relectant to throw his hands. His side-on stance leaves his legs wide open for kicks which isn't a good idea against a pretty good Muay Thai striker in Baghdad. Makdessi has also never really attempted to grapple with any opponents and has only been credited with 2 takedown attempts on his official UFC page. I noticed one takedown attempt at about 4:59 of round 2 against Njoukuani despite being outworked and outsruck throughout that fight. Baghdad is far from perfect. He doesn't throw much output, his hands are subpar, and below-average defensive grappling. His positives are his diverse offensive skill set, above average defense/chin, powerful. I think he matches up well with makdessi and view them as close to equal on the feet. Makdessi has edges in output, octagon control, and technical boxing. Baghdad has edges in power, kicks, ability to mix up offense. In the end, I see slight value in Baghdad as a moderate underdog.
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i don't agree w/the "prefers to kick" bit - he has a great jab, for example. baghdad edge in power? not buying that, either.

i think makdessi is about a 2:1 favorite.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Trying to hedge off Roy with BB dec. Betvictor limited me to £15 @ +1200 and Unibet limited me to £10 @ +900. Next best price i can see is Betway +750. Any Euro guys know a better line? PP has BB dec all the way down @ +550 which is where i think it should be.
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why not hedge with the over 1.5 rounds? if it's practical , that is (if i'm not misunderstanding)
 
I'd like Baghdad's chances a lot more if I didn't see his stint on TUF. He almost lost to Artem. Artem is a different type of striker and hits like a truck when guys engage him, but for someone who is suppose to be a muay thai champion (I think) Mehdi was pretty unimpressive in that fight. And then he lost a striking battle to Juicy fucking J if i'm not mistaken? Yikes.
 
Yes. Mehdi is not the most active fighter. Both fights were probably one-one entering the third round on the show (he happened to win one and lose one by majority decision with neither fight seeing the third round). He hit both of them with some real powerful shots that they just ate though.

Makdessi has struggled in the past with long, rangy fighters (Njou, Cerrone, Meideros). I have to finish watching his fight with yancy still.
 
EzFlyer said:
i don't agree w/the "prefers to kick" bit - he has a great jab, for example. baghdad edge in power? not buying that, either.

i think makdessi is about a 2:1 favorite.
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agree Makdessi has a very good lead hand. His jab and hook are both very good. He needs to let his right hand go more but when he does use it its very effective too (see Campbell ko). Haven't bet this fight yet, for the record, just wanted to say I like his boxing.
 
I read somewhere about baghdad being a MT champ somewhere, just can't find it any more but ufc profile does say he has a 24-4 MT and K1 record. Certainly says also he trains MT 3 times a week, also mentions he spars with anderson silva 2 times a week.

I think with his low output mak should be able to get points via jabbing alone, doubt either one goes for take downs or grappling here feels like a striking only bout, but yeah concerns due to baghdad height and reach making it ideal over the small mak.
 
VandelayIndstry said:
Yes. Mehdi is not the most active fighter. Both fights were probably one-one entering the third round on the show (he happened to win one and lose one by majority decision with neither fight seeing the third round). He hit both of them with some real powerful shots that they just ate though.

Makdessi has struggled in the past with long, rangy fighters (Njou, Cerrone, Meideros). I have to finish watching his fight with yancy still.
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makdessi dominated that fight. yancy got a robbery decision IMO and i had money on him.
 
Just got a chance to glance at whats there so far. Duffy dec at +190 is a round robin play for sure. Clarke is tough as nails.
 
feeling o2.5 on both muhammad-jouban and doane-munhoz. -160 and -165 respectively.
 
Okay I'm experiencing some straight fuckery again. I can't place my bet every time I type in my password to place a bet it logs me out
 
Rebel_LioN said:
Okay I'm experiencing some straight fuckery again. I can't place my bet every time I type in my password to place a bet it logs me out
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that honestly sounds like something on your end.. idk.. have you called them?
 
I like Makdessi here. Will wait for the prop lines to see if it's a dec play or just money line.

Watching some tape on Mehdi, I didn't see anything particularly frightening for Makdessi. No clinch work or takedowns to worry about. The clinches I have seen him do damage with (some brutal elbow work) were all from charging opponents look for a trip takedown, not something Makdessi will ever do.

His boxing game is well rounded if a little sloppy. He leans forward with his head and slightly hunches his shoulders, which isn't a good trait for a range finder like makdessi. It is also something I don't like visually and will offset some of Makdessi bad mojo with the judges. I can certainly see Makdessi dropping him with something short and even piling up points with leg kicks
 
Rebel_LioN said:
Okay I'm experiencing some straight fuckery again. I can't place my bet every time I type in my password to place a bet it logs me out
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I had something similar happen to me this week, I had some java-script thingie that wasn't in proper order for firefox though. You tried switching browsers? Worked fine for me in google chrome. Doesn't sound like a purposeful shut-out or anything, they'd straight up tell you if they would.
 
thesharktank said:
I like Makdessi here. Will wait for the prop lines to see if it's a dec play or just money line.

Watching some tape on Mehdi, I didn't see anything particularly frightening for Makdessi. No clinch work or takedowns to worry about. The clinches I have seen him do damage with (some brutal elbow work) were all from charging opponents look for a trip takedown, not something Makdessi will ever do.

His boxing game is well rounded if a little sloppy. He leans forward with his head and slightly hunches his shoulders, which isn't a good trait for a range finder like makdessi. It is also something I don't like visually and will offset some of Makdessi bad mojo with the judges. I can certainly see Makdessi dropping him with something short and even piling up points with leg kicks
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props are up
 
Thanks guys I tried using a different browser other than Safari on my iPhone and it worked

But Oliver Sudden I'm able to place bets through safari now -_-

I keep missing these opening lines such bad luck man.
 
Rebel_LioN said:
Okay I'm experiencing some straight fuckery again. I can't place my bet every time I type in my password to place a bet it logs me out
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I had some problems using Chrome, think it was a cookie issue
 
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