UFN 103: Rodriguez vs. Penn - Phoenix

[Joseph Budden]

So you actually don't play an instrument?

Yup, knew this ignorant old guy response was coming lol once you realize how dumb you really are you are pretty predictable

Entire genres of music are made using the tech I use, and you are a guy who can't even admit he was stupid for inputting his opinion on rap when you don't even listen to rap. Just gonna say welcome to the 21st Century, not going to try to enlighten you on what you can do with virtual workstations like Logic

 

[SeverianB]

You were completely wrong about your entire assessment of that fight while guys like myself, Mulder and Goodfella were spot on. If you genuinely think he just didn't show up you are doing yourself a disservice and dk what you're looking at

I agree with this. Jouban *does* like to brawl, but he has shown a lot more technique when needed than Perry ever has. Watching Perry get frustrated over basic boxing techniques on the lead up video kinda summed it all up. This was not "Perry not showing up", this was Perry getting schooled by a much better fighter who has enough power to make Perry turn into a scared little wallflower by the 3rd round.

I wasn't as confident in this fight as the Waterson/Paige fight, because of the one-punch power of Perry. I *KNEW* Waterson was going to murk Paige worse than Rose did and told everyone that. That was BEFORE Waterson stripped off her clothes at the open workouts and revealed an absolutely ripped body.

 

[Oblivian]

Yup, knew this ignorant old guy response was coming lol once you realize how dumb you really are you are pretty predictable

Entire genres of music are made using the tech I use, and you are a guy who can't even admit he was stupid for inputting his opinion on rap when you don't even listen to rap. Just gonna say welcome to the 21st Century, not going to try to enlighten you on what you can do with virtual workstations like Logic

What was predictable was how easily I can make you jump.

 

[Joseph Budden]

I agree with this. Jouban *does* like to brawl, but he has shown a lot more technique when needed than Perry ever has. Watching Perry get frustrated over basic boxing techniques on the lead up video kinda summed it all up. This was not "Perry not showing up", this was Perry getting schooled by a much better fighter who has enough power to make Perry turn into a scared little wallflower by the 3rd round.

I wasn't as confident in this fight as the Waterson/Paige fight, because of the one-punch power of Perry. I *KNEW* Waterson was going to murk Paige worse than Rose did and told everyone that. That was BEFORE Waterson stripped off her clothes at the open workouts and revealed an absolutely ripped body.

Yup, and since you brought it up just to debunk his "Jouban usually brawls" argument, thats not true either. The Belal fight especially was a great example of Jouban being very tactical and dominating a cleaner boxer for 2 rounds doing so (with a broken hand btw)

 

[Joseph Budden]

What was predictable was how easily I can make you jump.

Sure Oblivian, whatever makes you feel better about being more ignorant than most the trolling teens in UFC section

 

[Oblivian]

The funny thing is the more that I hear about you, the more it fits the exact stereotype that I figured you were. Some stoner white boy driving to work blaring his rap, going into his shitty job at a national retail bank, posting on Sherdog claiming he's the betting god and claiming what bands are GOAT, then going home and getting stoned again while making beats, and finally going to bed listening to Radiohead thinking it's so deep.

 

[LEMONZEST]

Guys just stop or take it to PMs no one cares about your spat. This is just clogging up the thread.

As the saying goes" winning an argument on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win you are still..."

 

[Joseph Budden]

The funny thing is the more that I hear about you, the more it fits the exact stereotype that I figured you were. Some stoner white boy driving to work blaring his rap, going into his shitty job at a national retail bank, posting on Sherdog claiming he's the betting god and claiming what bands are GOAT, then going home and getting stoned again while making beats, and finally going to bed listening to Radiohead thinking it's so deep.

Yes bro listening to Radiohead and endulging in the goddess mary jane is such a hard insult. Def worse than being so ignorant you argue your opinion on subjects you literally know nothing about


I see the high level of triggeredness you feel right now. Its over Oblivian. Try to realize you're 35 with a family and still act this way. Then try to realize, i've put you to bed playboy

 

[iGnP]

I have made a point on how pathetic you are.

The original point I was making when talking with Brick is you shouldn't judge someone on whether or not they watch tape, cause he has watched tape and made bets as atrocious as Perry over Jouban. If he wants to act like you can't be taken seriously without watching tape, that was the counter argument I laid out.

And than low and behold, the old guy with a family who hates his life so much he consistently fights with single 20 year olds on a forum has to join in.

Radiohead is the greatest band ever to me from my objective point of view. I'm allowed to have an opinion I can debate, seems pretty normal.

I make music using Logic Pro on my macbook. So let this be a lesson. You've assumed its laughable Kanye is a legend when you don't listen to rap. You assume I don't even play an instrument for literally no reason at all. You should do some self reflection man, you are one of the most braggadocious, ignorant people i've ever seen on here (trolling teens included).

And just one last time since months later you are still so ignorant you insist on acting correct, its FACT Kanye is a legend. Whether you like his music or not, anyone who isn't a complete retard like you and actually follows hip hop knows this. Its not debatable in the same way 2pac being a legend is not debatable

Did u just compare Kanye to Tupac...

<{cruzshake}>

 

[weedreference]

Even at -200, I'm a fan of the over in the Pettis/Moraga fight. It's two guys who don't attack, don't seem to have the power to stop guys at the higher levels, have the ability to defend themselves off their back if they get dropped, have good sub defense unless totally gassed and mentally beaten... and this fight is very even, so it's unlikely for one guy to ever get a big edge.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Did u just compare Kanye to Tupac...

<{cruzshake}>

Just as an example of how undebatable both of their statuses are.

 

[rille31]

So you actually don't play an instrument?

 

[Slohog]

Even at -200, I'm a fan of the over in the Pettis/Moraga fight. It's two guys who don't attack, don't seem to have the power to stop guys at the higher levels, have the ability to defend themselves off their back if they get dropped, have good sub defense unless totally gassed and mentally beaten... and this fight is very even, so it's unlikely for one guy to ever get a big edge.

Yea, I like it even more so given that Pettis has shown that he's ok with taking his foot of the gas and coasting when he's ahead and Moraga being very tentative last time around.

 

[cagebrain]

Hey guys, I know most of you hate Luca, but he did a podcast talking about the changes he's made to his betting. There's one point in there that I feel would benefit a lot of us here (including myself!)

TLDW; its to not bet so many fights, and to just bet the ones you're the most solid on. If there are unknowns in a fight on one or both sides its better to steer clear, and wait for opportunities where the variables are much more known to you. Basically, avoiding being a degen and erring on the side of betting a fight just because you like having lots of bets, like having action, etc.

The video is time-marked. The relevant segment is maybe 5 minutes long.

 

[Rebel_LioN]

Even at -200, I'm a fan of the over in the Pettis/Moraga fight. It's two guys who don't attack, don't seem to have the power to stop guys at the higher levels, have the ability to defend themselves off their back if they get dropped, have good sub defense unless totally gassed and mentally beaten... and this fight is very even, so it's unlikely for one guy to ever get a big edge.

I like the idea of the over but I think if there were a finish it would be Moraga by sub. I'm not too trusting of lil Pettis yet. He's been finished twice in the UFC via sleeping on the job and Moraga trusts his guillotine. Otherwise it SHOULD go decision but I'm not 100.

 

[vkram]

I like the idea of the over but I think if there were a finish it would be Moraga by sub. I'm not too trusting of lil Pettis yet. He's been finished twice in the UFC via sleeping on the job and Moraga trusts his guillotine. Otherwise it SHOULD go decision but I'm not 100.

I pretty much agree, the most likely result is Pettis by decision with a possible hedge of Moraga by submission.

 

[EzFlyer]

so for people betting lauzon -- i'd recommend maybe live betting him? held is the better wrestler/grappler when he's fresh and they're pretty close on the feet, imo. if i knew held's cardio would be better than it was against sanchez i'd say he is an easy pick, but yea, that freakin cardio is bad. it's a really intriguing matchup.

 

[EzFlyer]

o1.5 is probably the best way to play the fight

what fight? all four fights are 2.5

 

[EzFlyer]

I think winning some scrambles is literally all Held has going for him here.

Prepare to be surprised cause I think its highly likely Held gets crushed just as bad as he did vs Diego

you're seriously underestimating held, imo.

 

[EzFlyer]

Held was doomed to begin with in the UFC with a leg lock style. He built everything around it.

Joe will give him another veteran UFC beat down.

Paul Sass, Marcin Bandel, Ian Entwhistle, Ryan Hall (soon), Paul Harris, anyone else?

held is much more than just a leg lock guy

bandel, sass, and entwistle were more of those bottom game leg lock type guys (sass with the triangle,o bviously) -- paul harris, hall, held are more than that. held has solid striking when he's fresh. solid wrestling. paul harris has excellent offensive takedowns when he commits and has power. hall has way more than leg locks, period.