UFN 103: Rodriguez vs. Penn - Phoenix

[t6p]

He should've kept it short and straight to the point in his reasons why he didn't wanna fight Vera then. All that extra daughter / bully shit or whatever was unnecessary. And he shouldn't have accepted it in the first place if he felt that strongly about his morals.

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Anyways ! Anticipating these props and if they are reasonable I'm going to gun for another thousand dollar parlay hopefully I get some nice odds.

Yea I agree. I'm a Rivera fan but I'm a little disappointed with how he handled this.

 

[Timurd123]

What is WEAK about his skills? All we've really seen worth judging is his kickboxing which is not even close to bad.

Sherman is a 27 yr old HW. Not sure why you're writing him off. Can't fully grasp his potential yet, but he definitely has some.

Nothing about his kickboxing impressed me, his talent level is low , his roof is as well imo

 

[rille31]

When I was watching tape before that ledet fight I remember thinking sherman looked pretty sloppy but my memory is a bit blurry

 

[Buddy Brown]

OH MY GOD I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!

Guys.. Sherman is NOT good! What are we talking about here?

Poor striking. No grappling. No head movement. No footwork. Slow.

Sloppy sloppy sloppy

Not a guy you trust with your money

Stop this madness

@Joseph Budden be like

 

[Joseph Budden]

His striking isn't poor. We haven't seen his grappling. His head movement could use work but tbh at least he was trying to slip and duck under, dk if i've ever seen Harris do any of that. No footwork is an absurd comment when Harris is the opponent, a guy who stands right in front of you and just tries to time a left.

Dog or pass, i'll take the dog

 

[Buddy Brown]

His striking isn't poor. We haven't seen his grappling. His head movement could use work but tbh at least he was trying to slip and duck under, dk if i've ever seen Harris do any of that. No footwork is an absurd comment when Harris is the opponent, a guy who stands right in front of you and just tries to time a left.

Dog or pass, i'll take the dog

Young Joseph

His striking is poor

 

[Joseph Budden]

Young Joseph

His striking is poor

How? People (you and Timurd really) keep saying this with no retort to my breakdown a page back, just its bad and bad head movement. Is that it?

 

[Buddy Brown]

How? People (you and Timurd really) keep saying this with no retort to my breakdown a page back, just its bad and bad head movement. Is that it?

All he's shown us is a slow 1-2 with no setup and a leg kick. Always wide open for a counter. Head is always on the center line with his chin in the air. Plodding.

He's going to get KTFO multiple times and cut in the next 2 years. He's not UFC level.

 

[Joseph Budden]

All he's shown us is a slow 1-2 with no setup and a leg kick. Always wide open for a counter. Head is always on the center line with his chin in the air. Plodding.

He's going to get KTFO multiple times and cut in the next 2 years. He's not UFC level.

This is completely false. He has shown much more than that, and I broke it down a page back. For someone who preaches tape watch, you clearly did not rewatch the Ledet. I don't think he used a one two at all in that fight lol

 

[Buddy Brown]

This is completely false. He has shown much more than that, and I broke it down a page back. For someone who preaches tape watch, you clearly did not rewatch the Ledet. I don't think he used a one two at all in that fight lol

He did a few times. The other 95% was him throwing a labored jab that got countered every single time and a leg kick that just left him open for counters too.

All we have to go off is his performance in the Ledet fight, which was a fucking TERRIBLE performance. He was just a punching bag.

Harris sucks too but at least he has wins over fighters with positive records.

 

[Joseph Budden]

He did a few times. The other 95% was him throwing a labored jab that got countered every single time and a leg kick that just left him open for counters too.

All we have to go off is his performance in the Ledet fight, which was a fucking TERRIBLE performance. He was just a punching bag.

Harris sucks too but at least he has wins over fighters with positive records.

His leg kick leaves him wide open for counters, yet Ledet wasn't able to counter once and before Sherm gassed Ledet had to resort to being cognizant of checking them cause they were working so well......

I don't know what you mean by a few times, but I shit you not there is a solid chance he didn't use a 1-2 even once.

It wasn't a terrible performance at all. He had a solid first round than completely gassed from elevation. Even after the first he still showed good offensive tools along with chin + heart

Why are you debating me when you clearly did not rewatch the Ledet fight? If you're going to preach tape watching, don't you think you should abide by your own rule? Don't you think its detrimental to the forum and to proper debate when you say things that he didn't even do?

 

[Buddy Brown]

His leg kick leaves him wide open for counters, yet Ledet wasn't able to counter once and before Sherm gassed Ledet had to resort to being cognizant of checking them cause they were working so well......

I don't know what you mean by a few times, but I shit you not there is a solid chance he didn't use a 1-2 even once.

It wasn't a terrible performance at all. He had a solid first round than completely gassed from elevation. Even after the first he still showed good offensive tools along with chin + heart

Why are you debating me when you clearly did not rewatch the Ledet fight? If you're going to preach tape watching, don't you think you should abide by your own rule? Don't you think its detrimental to the forum and to proper debate when you say things that he didn't even do?

(I did watch the Ledet fight. My only take away was he's a slow, plodding punching bag who doesn't know how to defend strikes)

 

[Joseph Budden]

(I did watch the Ledet fight. My only take away was he's a slow, plodding punching bag who doesn't know how to defend strikes)

You either didn't watch it and you're lying, didn't pay attention, or don't know what you're seeing. Seriously I don't mean to be harsh, but when you are saying things that didn't even happen in the fight its hard to be polite about it. Doesn't set up leg kicks, yet in the first round most of them came at the end of a combo. Easy to counter cause he doesn't set them up, yet Ledet didn't counter one. He does nothing but throw 1-2s, yet I shit you not he might not have thrown even one 1-2 in the fight. Dk what else to say....

 

[Buddy Brown]

You either didn't watch it and you're lying, didn't pay attention, or don't know what you're seeing. Seriously I don't mean to be harsh, but when you are saying things that didn't even happen in the fight its hard to be polite about it. Doesn't set up leg kicks, yet in the first round most of them came at the end of a combo. Easy to counter cause he doesn't set them up, yet Ledet didn't counter one. He does nothing but throw 1-2s, yet I shit you not he might not have thrown even one 1-2 in the fight. Dk what else to say....

Twisting my words

I said all he does is throw slow 1-2s with no set up and leg kicks. This applies to his previous fights too

He did throw a few 1-2's in the Ledet fight but mostly labored jabs and leg kicks. Feel free to rewatch again

Everything he did got countered because he wasn't exiting or resetting. He was standing there with a square stance, head on the center line, chin in the air.

It's extremely clear that he's very low level. Not UFC level. He's BEGGING to get KO'd or taken down (especially KO'd). I'd bet my kidneys that he doesn't last more than 2 years in the UFC.

Literally all we've seen from this guy is 3 rounds of being a punching bag and you think he's a good bet?

 

[Sham5916910]

I think christiansen and klose are good bets if possible to change the subject! Their opponents are terrible. Would love to know how powell got that decision in his penultimate fight too...

 

[Buddy Brown]

Just skimmed through round 1.

First of all, good round for Sherman? No. Clearly lost. Threw a few leg kicks but got his face boxed off just like the whole fight.

BTW I counted at least 5 Sherman 1-2's in round 1 alone. Most got countered

 

[Joseph Budden]

Twisting my words

I said all he does is throw slow 1-2s with no set up and leg kicks. This applies to his previous fights too

He did throw a few 1-2's in the Ledet fight but mostly labored jabs and leg kicks. Feel free to rewatch again

Everything he did got countered because he wasn't exiting or resetting. He was standing there with a square stance, head on the center line, chin in the air.

It's extremely clear that he's very low level. Not UFC level. He's BEGGING to get KO'd or taken down (especially KO'd). I'd bet my kidneys that he doesn't last more than 2 years in the UFC.

Literally all we've seen from this guy is 3 rounds of being a punching bag and you think he's a good bet?

I don't need to rewatch. Again, either you are lying or don't know what you are watching. The 1-2 was not even close to being a weapon for him. He would combo on the inside after getting past Ledet's jabor closing the distance. That was his main offensive weapon with the hands.

I'm honestly just going to leave it at that, cause when you are insisting the 1-2 is his main weapon when I don't think he even threw it in the fight (edit will take your word he threw it in round 1 which you conveniently skimmed through despite insisting you tape watched lol but it still wasn't an effective weapon for him and DEF not all he has) I have nothing further to discuss w you

 

[Buddy Brown]

I don't need to rewatch. Again, either you are lying or don't know what you are watching. The 1-2 was not even close to being a weapon for him. He would combo on the inside after getting past Ledet's jab.

I'm honestly just going to leave it at that, cause when you are insisting the 1-2 is his main weapon when I don't think he even threw it in the fight I have nothing further to discuss w you

Once again twisting my words. Not said "his 1-2's were his main weapon". I just said when he did throw them he got countered. Mostly labored jabs and leg kicks. 95% of the fight was him getting his face boxed off and failing to adapt to it. Can't blame it on gassing when it was happening from the first minute of the fight onwards lol.

Disregard everything I've said if you like but all this guy has shown is leg kicks and being a punching bag. If he was fighting someone with power he would have been laid out. He's shown literally nothing that should make you want to put your money on him.

Won't last more than 2 years in the UFC. Just too low level.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Once again twisting my words. Not said "his 1-2's were his main weapon". I just said when he did throw them he got countered. Mostly labored jabs and leg kicks. 95% of the fight was him getting his face boxed off and failing to adapt to it. Can't blame it on gassing when it was happening from the first minute of the fight onwards lol.

Disregard everything I've said if you like but all this guy has shown is leg kicks and being a punching bag. If he was fighting someone with power he would have been laid out. He's shown literally nothing that should make you want to put your money on him.

Won't last more than 2 years in the UFC. Just too low level.

All he's shown us is a slow 1-2 with no setup and a leg kick. Always wide open for a counter. Head is always on the center line with his chin in the air. Plodding.

He's going to get KTFO multiple times and cut in the next 2 years. He's not UFC level.

Its not his main weapon, just "all hes shown"....

Debate this with someone else man, I can't be bothered with this nonsense

 

[Sham5916910]

Sherman walt just got interesting. Whos right whos wrong - tune in same bat time same bat channel...