UFCs current Champs are all better than every previous champion

[MMAFanCal]

LOL, again, what bias? I am not even a Rockhold fan, nor do I dislike DDP. I just happen to think that Rockhold is a better fighter and would win against him.

That interview was from 2018 when he was a MW and he always said he was around 210-215lbs as a MW and the cut was tough. I never said anything about fight night weight but referred to his walk around weight. The whole point is you're claiming DDP would manhandle him and was much bigger. DDP may weight more, but the difference is not much size wise. Luke never had a problem being outsized by anyone.

You have too much time to waste. It is laughable how you cannot still see how the objective facts completely refute your claim. You have no credibility at all and I am only wasting my time. He literally looks "skinnier" than a 210 lbs Jan in the picture. Also, the fact that Luke himself admitted he weighs only 200 lbs fight night. You had shown ZERO evidence on that. You did not read a single thing I wrote above on how Rockhold's record does not compare with Dricus. Stop trying to sell me your obsession with Luke Rockhold. Find something better to do, dude.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

LOL, again, what bias? I am not even a Rockhold fan, nor do I dislike DDP. I just happen to think that Rockhold is a better fighter and would win against him.

That interview was from 2018 when he was a MW and he always said he was around 210-215lbs as a MW and the cut was tough. I never said anything about fight night weight but referred to his walk around weight. The whole point is you're claiming DDP would manhandle him and was much bigger. DDP may weight more, but the difference is not much size wise. Luke never had a problem being outsized by anyone.

Rockhold would get his shit rocked by DDP and I like Luke. He has some of the best top control MW will have ever seen and one of the best question mark kicks in MMA, but DDP would bully him, he's built much thicker and his style is meant to crash into a guy that wants to be patient from the outside before taking an opportunity to take the fight to the mat. DDP would end up TKOing him on the ground after rocking him on the feet like many of Luke's losses 9/10 times.

I feel like DDP is going to continue being somewhat...maybe not disrespected but definitely underrated as a champion even if he beats Khamzat ("Fraud checked") + 1.

 

[JKS]

You have too much time to waste on your blatant bias. Find something better to do, dude.

LOL, you're not too bright my friend. You are the keeping this conversation going as much as I am. And yet I am the one that has too much time and needs to find something better to do? That's some pretty dumb logic.

Just say you don't agree and move on.

 

[MMAFanCal]

LOL, you're not too bright my friend. You are the keeping this conversation going as much as I am. And yet I am the one that has too much time and needs to find something better to do? That's some pretty dumb logic.

Just say you don't agree and move on.

You are making it personally now, jerk. You are blatantly biased and have the audacity there. Refuting all objective facts that don't line up with your selective argument, makes you biased. I literally posted a screenshot of Rockhold saying he weighs 200 lbs refuting your biased claim and you have the audacity to insult me? You are talking about bright? I can assure you, I have accomplished a lot more in life than you could ever imagine. You probably sit in your mom's basement and profess your obsession with Rockhold.

You want to make this personal, be careful of what you wish for.

 

[JKS]

You are making it personally now, jerk. You are blatantly biased and have the audacity there. You are talking about bright? I can assure you, I have accomplished a lot more in life than you could ever imagine. You probably sit in your mom's basement and profess your obsession with Rockhold.

You want to make this personal, be careful of what you wish for.

I am not making it personal at all. All I said is that you're using dumb logic by telling me I have too much time to waste on this and should find something better to do. While at the same time, you are doing exactly the same thing by talking about this topic just as much as me. Think about that for a moment.

And I can tell you're not the brightest person now. You don't even know anything about me and are coming at me with this moms basement BS and talking about life accomplishments. My friend, you're on a mma forum talking to complete strangers getting personal and claiming your life is so much better than my.

But I would be happy to get personal if you wish. I happen to live a very good life so go for it lol. Tell me how accomplished you are?

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Islam, Merab and Ilia are strong champions and would have a good chance against any other champ ever.

The rest? no way.

 

[YourBoss]

Ngannou, current Aspinall and many others would finish Jones, Khabib would beat Islam, GSP and prime Usman would beat Belal, Jon Jones and Cormier would murk Ankalaev. Also Khamzat beats DDP.

 

[Vehap1]

If there is anytime in this history of the UFC where I would say this is the weakest line up of champions to the past, this is the period.

HW Jones - Francis, Cain, JDS, Prime Stipe beat him. Werdum would be a tough fight.
LHW Ankalaev - Jones, Cormier beat him, a few others would give him a hard fight and 50/50.
MW DDP - Anderson, Weidman, Rockhold Franklin beat him.
WW Belal - GSP, Usman, Hendricks, Lawler beat him, Woodley also has a great shot.
LW - No one aside Khabib
FW Volk or Lopes - This is one is tricky cause Ilia just vacated
BW Merhab - TJ and Cruz would beat him
FW Pantoja - DJ and Figueredo beat him.

Nope

The sport has evolved, obviously.
Do you think Rashad, Machida, Rampage would be top 10 LHWs? wayy to fucking undersized.
Even Reyes was able to beat Jon, whats his rank, 8?

Nostalgia is pathetic, move on with your life mate

 

[JKS]

Rockhold would get his shit rocked by DDP and I like Luke. He has some of the best top control MW will have ever seen and one of the best question mark kicks in MMA, but DDP would bully him, he's built much thicker and his style is meant to crash into a guy that wants to be patient from the outside before taking an opportunity to take the fight to the mat. DDP would end up TKOing him on the ground after rocking him on the feet like many of Luke's losses 9/10 times.

I feel like DDP is going to continue being somewhat...maybe not disrespected but definitely underrated as a champion even if he beats Khamzat ("Fraud checked") + 1.

DDP is no question a dangerous fight for Rockhold. If he can push him back and constantly pressure Luke to point he's got no space to work and his defense is open, then I can see DDP wearing Luke down and landing his power punches. But I can also see a fight where Luke is moving quite well and using his kicks to maintain distance and having the speed advantage over DDP and out striking him that way. DDP tends to be pretty stataionary and doesn't apply much movement so that works well for Luke.

I honestly think it's a 50/50 fight in that scenario where either DDP gets the TKO from pressure or Luke gets the decision from fighting well at range.

But where I see Luke winning this fight and having the advantage is in the grappling. Luke was excellent in the clinch using underhooks to control position and working for TDs from there. DDP has strength, but Luke has great technique and I think he would be able to get DDP down from there. DDPs TDs are strong, but they are not very well controlled in maintaining position, a guy like Luke who's got among the best scrambles and transitions to maintain top position, IMO would end on on top most of the time. And from there like you said, Luke has some of the best top control.

That's why I say Luke wins this fight. I think it would be even standing, but Luke would get the decision from top control.

 

[joy2day]

I agree with the OP entirely aside from HW, LHW, MW, WW, LW, and FW. Those division all had someone that was better before.

 

[JKS]

Nope

The sport has evolved, obviously.
Do you think Rashad, Machida, Rampage would be top 10 LHWs? wayy to fucking undersized.
Even Reyes was able to beat Jon, whats his rank, 8?

Nostalgia is pathetic, move on with your life mate

Nostalgia, that is you're claim?? That's a pretty stupid point and to make on this.

The fighters that I picked to beat the current champs have all been active in the past 5-10 years, the sport has not evolved much since 2015/2020 to now. I am not going back to 2005 and claiming fighters of that era are better.

HW - Jones is past his prime now and older, to say that trur HWs like Cain, JDS and Francis would beat him make sense. And Jon is a fighter from 2010 lol, he is the older generation and an example that fighters from that era can be champ today. He ate Gane alive like nothing.

LHW - Jones and Cormier were champions at LHW in the past 5-7 years and among the greatest fighters of all time. To claim they would beat Ankaalev makes sense.

MW - This is a division that has dropped in talent. The best years or MW were 2012 to 2017 with the most skilled fighters.

WW - Belal is a weak champion in my opinion. The fighers I said would beat him are GSP who is goat, Usman who was just champ a few years ago and Hendricks, Woodley and Lawler who are bad style match ups. And again, all these guys were active the past decade as champions.

LW and FW - I made it pretty clear I don't see anyone from the past beating these guys.

BW - Cruz and TJ are BW goats and they have the style match up to beat Merab. And you're claiming the sport has evoled?? Merab is among the most one dimensional and devloved fighters there are. And agai, both champs in the past 10 years

FW - Figueredo already beat Pantoja, and DJ who is FW goat would beat him as well. Again, two champions in the past 5-10 years.

To answer your question, yes those guys would be top 10 LHWs today. And you know why?? It's because the LHW division is weak today in terms of skill and level. Oezdemir has been a top 10 LHW since 2017. Johnny Walker has been top 10 for years. You got Krylov who's been raked for years. And you're gonna with a straight face tell me that Rampage Jackson or Machida wouldn't beat those guys?? Rampage would walk through them. BTW, Rampage walked around 225-230 lbs before cutting weight, he was a big LHW.

 

[MMAFanCal]

I am not making it personal at all. All I said is that you're using dumb logic by telling me I have too much time to waste on this and should find something better to do. While at the same time, you are doing exactly the same thing by talking about this topic just as much as me. Think about that for a moment.

I am using dumb logic? You are trying to use reverse psychology by projecting exactly how you a presenting yourself. I cannot believe the lengths you are going to, which everyone considers forgettable. He was a strikeforce champion with 2 title defenses against nobodies before he moved to UFC and lost to an over the hill Vitor. His record is not even remotely comparable to Dricus. Literally, before you, no one has ever praised Rockhold, which is why I am just so surprised. He used to train with much smaller Dagestani fighters and they used to have a field day with him. Everything I wrote was backed by 100% facts I showed sources for. You are literally saying objective facts are dumb because they don't line up with your own subjective, personal opinions. You are just so smitten by 2nd rated fighters that you have all of the time in the world to prop them up like no one else. You know what. Here is the best way to see who is telling the truth. Why don't you try conducting a poll and see how many people agree with you? I can bet it would be 90% in favor of what my conjecture is.

How do you explain the fact that Luke Rockhold himself is saying in the twitter that he weighs 200 lbs and it is further corroborated by the fact that he looks smaller than 210 lbs Jan. You got caught in a lie and you could not produce one single shred of evidence, yet you did not apologize that you stood corrected. Instead, you double down on your lies. And no, the 205 lbs statement does not count.

Also, you gave so much props and fanboying over Yoel Romero's cr*ppy record, but had ZERO respect for the three finish wins Dricus has over people who lost to Yoel. Your excuse of moving the goal past by defining your own prime, makes you biased.

And I can tell you're not the brightest person now. You don't even know anything about me and are coming at me with this moms basement BS and talking about life accomplishments. My friend, you're on a mma forum talking to complete strangers getting personal and claiming your life is so much better than my.

How could someone so blatantly biased as yourself assess logic and objective facts when literally everything I wrote is backed by objective facts? The fact that reverse pyschology works in this case. You are most likely someone who never studied logic, science, rational reasoning, objective facts that are the most fundamental basis of my profession I have been practicising for 23+ years and have acamedic standing in at the grad level. You keep trying to project your own blatant bias to me, but everything you write, when you find the facts don't line up, your excuse is 'oh this person was injured' or 'he was past prime' [in the early 30s] or when you consider Yoel so elite, yet refuse to acknowledge the fact that Yoel lost 3 fights against people who Dricus ran through. Yeah, you are biased.

But I would be happy to get personal if you wish. I happen to live a very good life so go for it lol. Tell me how accomplished you are?

I wrote a pretty blunt response here to your insulting and passive aggressive demeanor, but sooner or later a mod is going to catch a glimpse of this. You want to talk credentials? I am a Senior Engineer of 23+ years who works in the Telecommunication industry as a Senior Software Architect/Technical Team Lead. You are literally trying to drag me down to your level by making personal attacks on intelligence. For me to accomplish the things and listening to an internet fanboi attacking me personally and insulting my intelligence simply because my objective facts don't line up with your bias, truly speaks to the state of your own mind and how troubled you are as a person. Get a life and get some help, seriously.

 

[jeskola]

None of these guys would stand a chance against guys like Focused BJ, Sea-Level Cain, Chuck with that look in his eye, and TRT Vitor.

 

[witt1021]

If there is anytime in this history of the UFC where I would say this is the weakest line up of champions to the past, this is the period.

HW Jones - Francis, Cain, JDS, Prime Stipe beat him. Werdum would be a tough fight.
LHW Ankalaev - Jones, Cormier beat him, a few others would give him a hard fight and 50/50.
MW DDP - Anderson, Weidman, Rockhold Franklin beat him.
WW Belal - GSP, Usman, Hendricks, Lawler beat him, Woodley also has a great shot.
LW - No one aside Khabib
FW Volk or Lopes - This is one is tricky cause Ilia just vacated
BW Merhab - TJ and Cruz would beat him
FW Pantoja - DJ and Figueredo beat him.

ankalaev wouldnt have made it past rumble johnson to even get a title shot. rumble johnson destroys every LHW in the UFC right now. no one is a strong enough wrestler to beat him, much less dc or jones..... RIP rumble.

 

[MetaIIica]

ankalaev wouldnt have made it past rumble johnson to even get a title shot. rumble johnson destroys every LHW in the UFC right now. no one is a strong enough wrestler to beat him, much less dc or jones..... RIP rumble.

Ankalev would wrestle him and hold him against the cage easily, dc made rumble quit

 

[witt1021]

Ankalev would wrestle him and hold him against the cage easily, dc made rumble quit

rumble a junior collegiate national champion wrestler. ankalev couldnt do shit to alex he isnt doing shit to someone who can wrestle. "dc made rumble quit" so ankalev has olympic level wrestling now?? cause i dont understand why you would even bring up DC. there is only one person in all of MMA who could stop DC..... rumble easily avoids clinching with the weak ass wrestler ahnkalev and absolutely destroys him standing up. all of rumbles losses come from RNC. ahnkalev has never submitted anyone ever....

 

[JKS]

ankalaev wouldnt have made it past rumble johnson to even get a title shot. rumble johnson destroys every LHW in the UFC right now. no one is a strong enough wrestler to beat him, much less dc or jones..... RIP rumble.

No doubt

 

[JKS]

Ankalev would wrestle him and hold him against the cage easily, dc made rumble quit

LOL, Ankalaev couldn't even get a TD on Perreira and went 0 for 13. Rumble can actually wrestle and has fantastic TDD.

And you're comparing Ankalaev to Cormier as if the are even the same level in wrestling? DC is among the best wrestlers ever in the sport.

 

[Mittens]

If one needed any more proof why Megadeth is vastly superior...

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

DC and Jon Jones alone would ruin today's LHW champions, they'd probably ruin the next 3-4 generations of upcoming LHW champions too.