UFCs current Champs are all better than every previous champion

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Thread 'Welterweight is a joke'

Feb 22, 2025

The only reason Usman isn’t champ anymore is because he’s too old now. Prime usman would still melt all of these welterweights. Now we are stuck with cock eyed inbred belal , the most boring champion to ever hold the belt

Welterweight is a joke now. Prime usman melts all these bums

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Thread 'Jiri must save LHW'

Mar 9, 2025

Now we have yet another boring ball sniffer as champion , one of the most boring and pathetic title fights of all time. Jiri prochazka is the next title contender in line , and I believe his style and takedown defense might enough to take Ankalaev, and restore order to the UFC

War Jiri

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Thread 'I propose a bet with hhj'

Mar 7, 2025

If pereira loses I will delete my account , if pereira wins you have to jump off a building

Unfortunately he declined the bet.

Your account is worthless to me. I don't care what you do with it.

I won this one though

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Post in thread 'UFC 313 is utterly garbage'

Mar 8, 2025

UFC is relying on Amanda Lemos star power to carry the entire card, and the entire card is pretty mid, seems like the type of match-ups for a fight night card, only excited for gaethje , pereira, and of course Lemos.

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[MMAFanCal]

Dricus is not bigger than any of the guys you mentioned.

Dricus fights at 215 lbs (officially released fight night weight from his Strickland fight). Rockhold himself had said he fights around 200 lbs and Dricus is DEFINITELY is much more powerful and stronger than those guys.

 

[JKS]

He also lost to Yoel Romero in 2018 who was never a top tier fighter. Need more? That was 6+ years ago when he was in his early 30s at the time. You will define based on what suits your argument the most. Bottom line, Dricus has never had those losses that the other people except Anderson in your list. He has only won and finished most of his opponent, no matter the competition. Add to the fact, that Dricus is bigger, stronger, more powerful who can impose his will on his opponents. Other than your subjective opinion, there is ZERO evidence to back up your claim.

Romero was never a top tier fighter?? Probably top 3 mma fighters of all time to never win a belt. Yah, Yoel was a top tier fighter. You're basing if off him never winning the belt.

The reason why Dricus has been beating everyone, is because the competition he's facing is easier compared to the MW era. He would not be rolling through guys like Romero, Mousasi, Jacare, Anderson and as a I pointed out Weidman and Rockhold. His resume is quite thin. He's got an elite win over Izzy, but guys like Strickland, Brunson are not elite compared to the fighters of the mid 2010s at MW.

Well the evidence is quite simple. Rockhold and Weidman simply fought and beat better skilled fighters. Not only that, they themeslves were better and more skilled fighters. If you know the sport, it's not hard to see this.

 

[Michael Wetzel]

HW: Jones has a tough time with prime Cain, Ngannou, Tim Sylvia could give him troubles.
LHW: Ankalev loses to Jones, Cormier, maybe prime Rashad.
MW: DDP loses to Silva, Hendo, maybe prime Franklin and Weidman.
WW: Belal loses to prime GSP, Hughes.
LW: Islam has a 50/50 chance against prime Penn, Khabib, Bendo.
FW: Ilia forfeited the belt; he has a tough time with prime Aldo and Brown.
BW: Merab loses to prime Cruz, Dillashaw, Barao.
FlyW: Pajonta gets tooled even today by Johnson, maybe Cejudo.

 

[TITS]

Dricus fights at 215 lbs (officially released fight night weight from his Strickland fight) and he DEFINITELY is much more powerful and stronger than those guys.

All those other guys already fought at LHW and are 6'2/6'3", and weigh more than 215. Dricus is a manlet compared to them.

 

[Bork Neslar]

Belal could beat GSP. It doesn't matter what the latter's fanwhores think. And I'm not even a fan of Belal.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Romero was never a top tier fighter?? Probably top 3 mma fighters of all time to never win a belt. Yah, Yoel was a top tier fighter. You're basing if off him never winning the belt.

The reason why Dricus has been beating everyone, is because the competition he's facing is easier compared to the MW era. He would not be rolling through guys like Romero, Mousasi, Jacare, Anderson and as a I pointed out Weidman and Rockhold. His resume is quite thin. He's got an elite win over Izzy, but guys like Strickland, Brunson are not elite compared to the fighters of the mid 2010s at MW.

Well the evidence is quite simple. Rockhold and Weidman simply fought and beat better skilled fighters. Not only that, they themeslves were better and more skilled fighters. If you know the sport, it's not hard to see this.

So your prime definition stopped when Rockhold lost when he was still in his early 30s 7 years ago. ROFL Jan broke his jaw when he was still in his 30s. He was 100% in his prime when he lost badly to Jan. He also admitted he was of no match for a 155 lbs'er Islam when they were sparring together. I saw the fight myself and his trash talking before the fight. I am not going to waste time arguing with such a biased analysis. Yoel Romero lost against Paulo Costa. Let me guess, Yoel was not in his prime when he lost to Paulo. Right? ROFL Dricus beat 3 fighters decisively who won against Yoel. All of the objective facts support what I am saying. Also, Dricus fights at 15 lbs heavier than Rockhold (215 lbs vs 200 lbs). Much bigger and way stronger. Dricus would bully both Rockhold and Weidman. That is a 100% fact.

 

[BJJ4Tone]

He uses his dagestani ball hugging techniques to defeat his opponents.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Didn't I read this same thread like two weeks ago?

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

You make some good points, but this could have and has been said for every generation of champs, so nothing new at the same time.

 

[Lycandroid]

you own post proved you wrong.

 

[JKS]

Yeah. your prime definition stopped when Rockhold lost when he was in his early 30s. ROFL Jan broke his jaw when he was still in his 30s. He was 100% in his prime when he lost badly to Jan. Dricus would murder him. Period. I am not going to waste time arguing with such a biased analysis. Yoel Romero lost against Paulo Costa. Let me guess, Yoel was not in his prime when he lost to Paulo. Right? ROFL Also, Dricus fights at 15 lbs heavier than Rockhold. Much bigger and way stronger. Dricus would murder Rockhold and Weidman. That is a 100% fact.

Bias?? LOL, I dont even like Luke Rockhold. You just can't form a reasonable argument and don't agree with me so you play the bias card. But you're completely full of S%$T because you clearly don't know Luke's history post his title run and just throw his age around as prime.

First, age doesn't always play a factor when it comes to prime. A fighters like Shogun was nearly shot in his early 30s because of multiple injuries. Those things play a factor. So when Luke lost to Jan, he was 35 and coming of a 16 months lay off a serious leg injury. And prior to that, he pulled out of fights with Gustaffason and Weidman because of leg injuries. After he lost his title he also pulled out of a fight because or a serious back injury. So yeah, Luke was not in his best form or prime after multiple injuries and surgeries that stalled his career when he fought Jan. He was inactive and had 3 fights in 3.5 years leading up to the Jan fight where he pulled out of 4 fights. And after the Jan fight he continued to have back problems and took 3 years off to heal his injuries.

BTW, Luke was 215 lbs as a MW and the same size as DDP. The fact you say he would murder Luke and Weidman clealry shows you're clueless.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Bias?? LOL, I dont even like Luke Rockhold. You just can't form a reasonable argument and don't agree with me so you play the bias card. But you're completely full of S%$T because you clearly don't know Luke's history post his title run and just throw his age around as prime.

I am using objective facts to argue every single point. Nothing is subjective. You are subjectively moving the argument to suit your bias. Rockhold was in his early 30s when he lost to Bisping, to repeat for the bazillionth time. There is no way on earth he was not in his prime unless you are moving the goal past to make the loss look not as bad.

First, age doesn't always play a factor when it comes to prime. A fighters like Shogun was nearly shot in his early 30s because of multiple injuries. Those things play a factor. So when Luke lost to Jan, he was 35 and coming of a 16 months lay off a serious leg injury. And prior to that, he pulled out of fights with Gustaffason and Weidman because of leg injuries. After he lost his title he also pulled out of a fight because or a serious back injury. So yeah, Luke was not in his best form or prime after multiple injuries and surgeries that stalled his career when he fought Jan.

Yeah, I look at the entire fight career. I know injuries can affect the prime. I could argue the same a lot of fighters who were sidelined due to injury, but came back and were still in their prime.. You could make the same argument about Dricus who injured his foot (tore ligaments) in the Whittaker fight and resulted in a long delay with Adesanya fight (he took the Strickland fight because of that). Dricus still keeps getting better and better with every fight. He still has a long career ahead of him being only 31. His body of work is not done yet. You seem to be a huge fan of Rockhold, so you seem to be propping him up a lot. Bottom line, he was getting manhandled by Islam at 155 lbs by his own admission. All of those are hypothetical. The people he won against, were not anywhere close to the level who Dricus beat. Whittaker (x2), Adesanya. Rockhold lost to Yoel. Both lost to Paulo Costa. Paulo Cost even in his prime, has nothing for Dricus. I used exact facts and the only person who is using a biased definitely, is you.

BTW, Luke was 215 lbs as a MW and the same size as DDP. The fact you say he would murder Luke and Weidman clealry shows you're clueless.

When I said Rockhold fights at 200 lbs. For one, he does not look that big at all. He looked much smaller than 210 lb Jan (he admitted he fights around 210 lbs). Secondly, I used Rockhold's own words where he claimed he fights at 200 lbs. If you claim he fights at 215 lbs, provide actual source. Not your claim. If you cannot provide source to back it up then don't put it up here since it is just another one of your biases.

 

[tritestill]

Ank comments gave troll thread away

 

[JKS]

I am using objective facts to argue every single point. Nothing is subjective. You are subjectively moving the argument to suit your bias. Rockhold was in his early 30s when he lost to Bisping, to repeat for the bazillionth time. There is no way on earth he was not in his prime unless you are moving the goal past to make the loss look not as bad.



Yeah, I look at the entire fight career. I know injuries can affect the prime. Bottom line, he was getting manhandled by Islam at 155 lbs by his own admission. All of those are hypothetical. The people he won against, were not anywhere close to the level who Dricus beat. Whittaker (x2), Adesanya. Rockhold lost to Yoel. Both lost to Paulo Costa. Paulo Cost even in his prime, has nothing for Dricus. I used exact facts and the only person who is using a biased definitely, is you.




When I said Rockhold fights at 200 lbs. For one, he does not look big at all. He looked much smaller than 210 lb Jan (he admitted he fights around 210 lbs). Secondly, I used Rockhold's own words where he claimed he fights at 200 lbs. If you claim he fights at 215 lbs, provide actual source. Not your claim. If you cannot provide source to back it up then don't put it up here since it is just another one of your biases.

He was 33 when he lost to Bisping, yes he was in in prime and his best at that point, he was acrtive and not getting injured. You were the one that said he was in his 30s and in his prime when he lost to Jan in 2019. The discussion surrounding Lukes prime is around the Jan fight, not the Bisping fight. Luke post losing his title fell out of his prime because of all the injuries and inactivity.

So you were the one that faulted Luke for losing to Jan to suit your point that Luke would lose to DDP. I pointed out that Luke at that point was beyond his best years due to several injuries and inactitvity and the Jan fight is not indiccation of his best or prime.

And then you bring up some BS about being manhanfled in practice by Islam lol??? Are we really taling about training here as some indicaiton of ability in a fight?? That's not even worth discussing.

I said Lukes weight was around 215lbs, he walked around 210 to 215. Here is an interview where he says this. DDP walks around heavier by 10 lbs. But Luke has always kept lean shape off camp.

Rockhold: I’d ‘torture myself,’ stay at middleweight only for Bisping trilogy

Luke Rockhold’s next fight will almost certainly be up a weight class.

bloodyelbow.com

”Compared to some other guys at 205, of course, I’ll be a little small,” Rockhold said. “But I’ve never tried to just physically go for it, bulk up, lift weights. Every time I’m in training mode, I’ve had to monitor what I’m eating. I’ll break 210 and be around 215 pounds. I know what it takes to compete with the best guys at 205. I’ve trained with them.”

 

[World eater]

Thread title should be changed to “Current mods are more tolerant than all the previous mods” and the OP should say: because I’m still here allowed to open silly threads.

 

[MMAFanCal]

He was 33 when he lost to Bisping, yes he was in in prime and his best at that point, he was acrtive and not getting injured. You were the one that said he was in his 30s and in his prime when he lost to Jan in 2019. The discussion surrounding Lukes prime is around the Jan fight, not the Bisping fight. Luke post losing his title fell out of his prime because of all the injuries and inactivity.

So you were the one that faulted Luke for losing to Jan to suit your point that Luke would lose to DDP. I pointed out that Luke at that point was beyond his best years due to several injuries and inactitvity and the Jan fight is not indiccation of his best or prime.

And then you bring up some BS about being manhanfled in practice by Islam lol??? Are we really taling about training here as some indicaiton of ability in a fight?? That's not even worth discussing.

I said Lukes weight was around 215lbs, he walked around 210 to 215. Here is an interview where he says this. DDP walks around heavier by 10 lbs. But Luke has always kept lean shape off camp.

Rockhold: I’d ‘torture myself,’ stay at middleweight only for Bisping trilogy

Luke Rockhold’s next fight will almost certainly be up a weight class.

bloodyelbow.com

”Compared to some other guys at 205, of course, I’ll be a little small,” Rockhold said. “But I’ve never tried to just physically go for it, bulk up, lift weights. Every time I’m in training mode, I’ve had to monitor what I’m eating. I’ll break 210 and be around 215 pounds. I know what it takes to compete with the best guys at 205. I’ve trained with them.”

I am done as you are way too biased to really give credit where it is due. You cannot even admit to objective facts that don't favor your selective argument.

p.s. Rockhold is hypothetically talking about moving up to 205 lbs and being at 210 - 215 lbs, if he moves up to 205 lbs. I am wasting my time arguing at such level of bias. Not middleweight weight. He said himself on twitter of his fight night weight that he weighs 200 lbs and he looks no bigger than 200 lbs given he is a tall guy. I can see him next to Jan who weighed 210 lbs and he looks much smaller.

 

[Skarsgard]

Except for 125, 135, 145, 155, 170, 185, and Heavyweight sure.

 

[JKS]

I am done as you are way too biased to really give credit where it is due.

p.s. Rockhold is hypothetically talking about moving up to 205 lbs and being at 210 - 215 lbs, if he moves up to 205 lbs. I am wasting my time arguing at such level of bias. Not middleweight weight. He said himself on twitter of his fight night weight that he weighs 200 lbs and he looks no bigger than 200 lbs given he is a tall guy. I can see him next to Jan who weighed 210 lbs and he looks much smaller.


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LOL, again, what bias? I am not even a Rockhold fan, nor do I dislike DDP. I just happen to think that Rockhold is a better fighter and would win against him.

That interview was from 2018 when he was a MW and he always said he was around 210-215lbs as a MW and the cut was tough. I never said anything about fight night weight but referred to his walk around weight. The whole point is you're claiming DDP would manhandle him and was much bigger. DDP may weight more, but the difference is not much size wise. Luke never had a problem being outsized by anyone.

 

[chinarice]

Flyweight - Pantoja potentially would have a tough time against prime Cejudo, and prime Mighty Mouse, but other than that he beats everyone

Bantamweight - Merab cleared out his division, he beat pretty much everyone, and will continue to do so

Featherweight - Topuria is knocking heads off former champs left and right, he already beat all of the "goats" of featherweight in 1 year.

Lightweight - Islam destroys everyone, only has 1 loss earlier in his career. Only tough matchup is Khabib, but Islam is more skilled in everything not wrestling/grappling

Welterweight - Belal Muhammad had to fight everyone for a title shot, hes basically a clone of kamaru usman but with dagestani style, and hypertropia.

Middleweight - DDP already beat the modern goats of middleweight, and hes finishing almost everyone.

Light Heavyweight - Ankalaev is a dagestani monster. He uses his dagestani ball hugging techniques to defeat his opponents. Jones would be his toughest matchup.

Heavyweight - Jon Jones is the greatest mma fighter of all time regardless PED use, never lost except for a foul, beat 3 generations of champions, he would have a few tough matchups at heavyweight. Ngannou post Ciryl Gane is a nightmare for Jones, but pre Stipe 1 Ngannou would be a lot easier. Prime Cain Velasquez would be hard, basically a bigger stronger ballistic version of DC, and finally Aspinall, but he's not champ.

You, nor anyone else on these forums actually believes this horseshit lol @ Belal beating GSP

50-45 GSP at worst. Belal is getting wrestlefucked, just like Islam or Khabib would if they fucked with GOAT St Pierre.