UFC is scum

Snowy1 said:
You're not bright if you pay...fool
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Some of us are so rich, we need places to dump money. No way I'm giving it to bums or supporting some fake charity: I'm buying PPV left and right and making it rain on Dana!
 
Maybe they should join another organization such as bellator or WSOF where they will get paid so much more... Oh wait..
 
Snowy1 said:
Mark Hunt is right, these greedy bastards are risking the lives and well-being of fighters for profits. Not to mention they are also holding the fighters sponsorships and other rights hostage. The pay for the majority of fighters is pathetic as well and now they've cashed out and left but there's something called karma and hopefully they will reap what they sow one day.

The UFC is a prime example of corporate greed and how it has taken over and enslaved the middle class. Hunt is doing what many people should do and taking a stance against corporate slavery.

Open your eyes people.
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Get a home.
 
TS tantrum and this thread:

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Oh... and thread saved by the best kind of slap:
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Snowy1 said:
Mark Hunt is right, these greedy bastards are risking the lives and well-being of fighters for profits. Not to mention they are also holding the fighters sponsorships and other rights hostage. The pay for the majority of fighters is pathetic as well and now they've cashed out and left but there's something called karma and hopefully they will reap what they sow one day.

The UFC is a prime example of corporate greed and how it has taken over and enslaved the middle class. Hunt is doing what many people should do and taking a stance against corporate slavery.

Open your eyes people.
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Well... Seems like every trump supporters who are business owner/executive... do something fishy and wrong... Just like their model with Trump U, refusing to rent to black people, kicking black customers out of his casino whenever he was visiting... ect... No wonder Dana support him
 
OrigFan255 said:
Unfortunately we live in a country where every single BIG business operates in this exact manner....Unionizing is the ONLY way for big businesses to recognize that the workers are valuable and they have power.

There is NOT 1 big business that pays it's workers more than a comparable unionized one...Most people at the top are extremely greedy and see what they do in 8 hours as validated but, what their employess do for 8 hours as easily replaceable... They see them as a number, not a human being.

I would LOVE to hear about a big business that pays it's employees more that a unionized business.....Companies always complain about all the common sense/fair rules that unions demand when bargaining BUT, all these companies have the ability to eradicate unions if they wanted to...How?
Offer $2 more an hour over what union workers are getting and watch how quick people would be willing to relinquish their membership.

It ALWAYS it about money and belonging to a union has ALWAYS been able to negotiate better pay for all....Still waiting for a large company to prove me wrong.
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Unions in first world countries have, for the most part, gone far beyond what they were originally set up to do.
At this point most of them are simply in it to enrich themselves at the expense of the people they are supposed to represent.
They are little more than legalised crooks using blackmail to get what they want.
 
Goatenstein said:
Could but wouldn't.
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Compare the pay from a card 5 years ago to now. You're a fucking idiot if you can't see the huge increases in pay. Yes they should be paid more. But they have been increasing pay over the years as their profits go up

If you don't pay for UFC, you shouldn't be bitching about this.
 
jayo2k said:
Just like their model with Trump U, refusing to rent to black people, kicking black customers out of his casino whenever he was visiting... ect... No wonder Dana support him
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Trump's a businessman. He just wanted his property values to stay high. He knows statistics pretty well, and can process empirical evidence without having to run it through a PC filter.
 
Don't hate the player hate the game.

You have a problem with this it's our system of economics you have a problem with.
 
kflo said:
you think top performers in skilled roles at big companies need unions to get them paid?

you act like union contracts never strangled a company out of existence. how well do they pay when they're no longer around?
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Name 1 company that union members wages were so ridiculous that it caused the company to go under?
 
Hugh G Rection said:
Unions in first world countries have, for the most part, gone far beyond what they were originally set up to do.
At this point most of them are simply in it to enrich themselves at the expense of the people they are supposed to represent.
They are little more than legalised crooks using blackmail to get what they want.
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I do not doubt that top members in unions are just as greedy as the business executives BUT, when you look at the problem from a WORKERS perspective and workers perspective only, they just want to be able to earn enough to survive. They don't want to dedicate their entire week AND STILL just scrape by. At this moment in time, belonging to a union will earn the worker a better wage. Just a fact!

If you have a better idea, other than unionizing, on how a worker can be paid a living wage, I am all ears. No company seems willing to do it without unions demanding fairness.
 
Snowy1 said:
Mark Hunt is right, these greedy bastards are risking the lives and well-being of fighters for profits. Not to mention they are also holding the fighters sponsorships and other rights hostage. The pay for the majority of fighters is pathetic as well and now they've cashed out and left but there's something called karma and hopefully they will reap what they sow one day.

The UFC is a prime example of corporate greed and how it has taken over and enslaved the middle class. Hunt is doing what many people should do and taking a stance against corporate slavery.

Open your eyes people.
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Meh, I am conflicted with this.

1) Zuffa was always about profit. They always abused fighters.

2) Most fighters never said anything about it. Fighters who get paid enough don't want to complain. The ones who don't get paid enough stay quite so they are not cut.

3) When fighters DO speak up, most people in here ridiculed them or didn't take any issue with this. Examples like Aldo, Diaz brothers.

4) when Hubnt fought Lesnar, he KNEW there was a possibility Lesnar was juicing. It was a big enoug deal to be news, the fact they voided the 4 months USADA check for him. Hunt didn't care.

5) While Hunt is correct to be mad, he is also making it more than it is. So far, from what I heard, it could be an inhaler, and not PED's that caught USADA's attention.

And while I applaud the effort by Hunt to get the fighter's union, you can't ignore that there's a big hipocrisy on his side. After all, up until now it was all great.

Thing is: Mark thought he could walk in, KTFO Lesnar and make a big payday.
Instead, he got beaten by Lesnar, and now his pride is hurt, so he blame everything on PED.

I am sorry. As much as I agree Fighters caugt juicing should be penalized (at least) double than the fighter who didn't make weight, I fail to see why Mark feels he can act like he is acing, including lashing out to his fans.

So while I do hope this sparks a fighter's union movement, I just hope fighters stop thinking about it only AFTER they lose to someone who got caught by USADA.
 
Snowy1 said:
Mark Hunt is right, these greedy bastards are risking the lives and well-being of fighters for profits. Not to mention they are also holding the fighters sponsorships and other rights hostage. The pay for the majority of fighters is pathetic as well and now they've cashed out and left but there's something called karma and hopefully they will reap what they sow one day.

The UFC is a prime example of corporate greed and how it has taken over and enslaved the middle class. Hunt is doing what many people should do and taking a stance against corporate slavery.

Open your eyes people.
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No one forced him to fight Brock and he said himself that he thought Brock was roided up before the fight. The UFC pays the most, and Hunt probably made more because of the fact that he got to fight Brock. If the drug tests had come back before the fight then Brock would have been bounced from the card and Hunt would not have gotten that big payday.

But if it's so easy to build a profitable fight promotion and pay the fighters as much as you want then why don't you or Hunt go out and do it? You apparently think that you don't need the management side of things or that its so simple anyone can do it, so show us how it's done. We'll see how much the fighters make when you guys are running things.
 
OrigFan255 said:
I do not doubt that top members in unions are just as greedy as the business executives BUT, when you look at the problem from a WORKERS perspective and workers perspective only, they just want to be able to earn enough to survive. They don't want to dedicate their entire week AND STILL just scrape by. At this moment in time, belonging to a union will earn the worker a better wage. Just a fact!

If you have a better idea, other than unionizing, on how a worker can be paid a living wage, I am all ears. No company seems willing to do it without unions demanding fairness.
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I guess it's a little different in the UK.
We have rail unions that, every year, use the holiday seasons and big events to blackmail their way to ever increasing pay rises despite already being paid way above the national average.
We have doctors unions who blatantly lie to the public to gain support so they can get their members as big a pay rise as possible.
We have teachers unions who use and prey upon parents fears for their children's education to politicise anything and everything in order to justify a pay rise. Hell, you can't even be a teacher without joining a union.
All are supposedly public servants and all are paid considerably more than the average person but greed knows no bounds.
 
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