Rumored UFC Has Changed Some of Its Contract Practices

[Marko Polo]

Yeah, that reason is actually cited in an internal UFC memo that was in discovery for the lawsuit.

They’re as cuthroat as they come. This is what WME had put together? I don’t think Dana would have a hand in this kind of thing, only the implementation

 

[dracul]

This would've been handy for Nick Diaz years ago. Wish the UFC didn't steal his prime years and his love for fighting. Really is a sad story. Nick was so fun in SF.

lmao

beating cans is of course going to be easier

 

[fractal]

Just drop venom rebook and all other shit.
Let fighters get their own sponsors. EVERYONE wins.

Both systems can work. Venum/Reebok gear in the cage, but fighter's sponsors for fight week, walkout and interviews etc.

 

[CasualBot]

Probably clips of them between rounds

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[avenue94]

Brock in Bellator now! Lol

He's under WWE contract (yes, I know you're being sarcastic lol), which are one of the few contracts that shaft athletes worse than the UFC.

They’re as cuthroat as they come. This is what WME had put together? I don’t think Dana would have a hand in this kind of thing, only the implementation

It was pre-WME if I recall. WME is a bit nicer than the good ol Zuffa days, or at least they smile while they reach into your pocket, that kind of approach.

 

[campbecc]

Protect yourself at all times, Herb is to blame for that. He didn't call time when Bisping dropped his mouth piece Anderson didn't do anything cheap. Just dumb for prematurely celebrating.

Edit: Full disclosure I typically stand up for Herb he does more good than bad. But that was one of his worst fuck ups for both fighters, Ping getting kneed and KOd without a mouth piece and Anderson having a KO taken from him because Herb wasn't paying attention to either fighter.

How did he prematurely celebrate? the bell rang right after he landed the knee, he had no time to follow up.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

I doubt that. They have no reason to change anything in response to the antitrust suit. They’ll make changes when they have no choice. WME is just a slimy as Dana. There’s no reason to believe that clause isn’t in all contracts. The UFC doesn’t want people knowing fighter salaries. They colluded with most commissions to stop releasing fighter pay.

Actually they have every reason to change contracts because of that, because that is the very thing the lawsuit is about, plus other aspects of their negotiations. WME switched things up so the fault can be put on previous owners and they can prove they changed the policies and contracts once they took over. They already made changes like a 5 year max contract compared to it being frozen indefinitely.

Them not releasing fighter pay is their decision to not make it public, the fighters can make their pay public if they want. Dana has repeated it over and over again there is no gag order on their pay and if they want to tell the world how much they get paid per fight there is no issues in doing so. It's the fighters choice that they aren't releasing their pay publicly.

 

[avenue94]

Them not releasing fighter pay is their decision to not make it public, the fighters can make their pay public if they want. Dana has repeated it over and over again there is no gag order on their pay and if they want to tell the world how much they get paid per fight there is no issues in doing so. It's the fighters choice that they aren't releasing their pay publicly.

This doesn't make sense. 1, confidentiality agreements aren't really illegal. 2. Why go through the effort of lobbying and buying your way to blocking disclosures of pay, only to remove the confidentiality part so fighters leak it?

 

[mmaknight]

I had a talk with dana

You're a good person, no matter what they say.

 

[Dave Poodle]

This doesn't make sense. 1, confidentiality agreements aren't really illegal. 2. Why go through the effort of lobbying and buying your way to blocking disclosures of pay, only to remove the confidentiality part so fighters leak it?

Don't know for sure but we've seen things like Jones saying he earns '$5mil a fight give or take' and GSP saying he earned less than $100k up to the Fitch fight so they're allowed to speak about the topic. Don't see how they could stop someone revealing their pay to banks, family, financial advisors, etc.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

Yeah. Word trickles out of the mma grapevine slowly, not to mention sharing contracts with media is still illegal. There's a reason the UFC has that clause in it and why Izzy in his video on how he spent his first million said "I allegedly made ___ dollars for this fight." Legal or not, that kind of language has a chilling effect.

Sharing contracts with the media is "illegal"? LOL! Good lord, the nonsense you read from people on the internet.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Sounds like a reasonable measure.

 

[MCS]

It's amazing to which lengths they go to avoid the Ali Act.

 

[Dreyga_King of Sherbums]

This doesn't make sense. 1, confidentiality agreements aren't really illegal. 2. Why go through the effort of lobbying and buying your way to blocking disclosures of pay, only to remove the confidentiality part so fighters leak it?

I mean Jon Jones revealed how much he was paid. As far as I know he wasn’t sued. It seems that fighters are allowed to reveal their pay

 

[Azure]

This would've been handy for Nick Diaz years ago. Wish the UFC didn't steal his prime years and his love for fighting. Really is a sad story. Nick was so fun in SF.

Nick not fighting is all on Nick...

 

[suffersystem]

How did he prematurely celebrate? the bell rang right after he landed the knee, he had no time to follow up.

This myth is always kind of annoying to me. Bisping was rocked and had there been time Silva may have been able to finsih it, but time ran out and Bisping was never KO'd. Silva def fucked it up by walking away as I di think there was a few seconds left so had he went for the kill there is a small posibility it could have been stopped. Not sure though as I do think there wa sonly like 5 or less econds left.

 

[JustBleed69]

Just drop venom rebook and all other shit.
Let fighters get their own sponsors. EVERYONE wins.

Of at the very least, let them patch on other sponsors along their Venum gear.
The everyone does really win!

 

[FIghtxIQ]

This doesn't make sense. 1, confidentiality agreements aren't really illegal. 2. Why go through the effort of lobbying and buying your way to blocking disclosures of pay, only to remove the confidentiality part so fighters leak it?

You are talking about the whole contract, the verbiage was there is not gag order for fighters to talk about their pay. Other parts of the contract may have confidentiality agreements to it. They have fighter pay negotiations in public, Jon Jones was the most recent highly publicized public negotiation and discussion about his pay. That would've never happened if there was a gag order about their pay. Most fighters probably choose to not disclose their pay, not that they can't, but because they don't want to.

 

[RampageFaction]

Actually they have every reason to change contracts because of that, because that is the very thing the lawsuit is about, plus other aspects of their negotiations. WME switched things up so the fault can be put on previous owners and they can prove they changed the policies and contracts once they took over. They already made changes like a 5 year max contract compared to it being frozen indefinitely.

Them not releasing fighter pay is their decision to not make it public, the fighters can make their pay public if they want. Dana has repeated it over and over again there is no gag order on their pay and if they want to tell the world how much they get paid per fight there is no issues in doing so. It's the fighters choice that they aren't releasing their pay publicly.

You repeated the same thing I challenged. And “Dana said so,” is pretty useless as evidence. It was in Eddie’s contract and we have no reason to believe it’s not in every fighters contract. Show me an instance where a fighter gave a dollar amount of his salary. I’ve never heard of one but maybe it’s happened.

To your point about changing contracts because of the anti-trust suit...how would that make any sense? The suit is still in litigation just recently getting certified I believe. If successful, THAT’S when the UFC will try to settle and make changes. Before that happens, they have no incentive to do so.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

You repeated the same thing I challenged. And “Dana said so,” is pretty useless as evidence. It was in Eddie’s contract and we have no reason to believe it’s not in every fighters contract. Show me an instance where a fighter gave a dollar amount of his salary. I’ve never heard of one but maybe it’s happened.

To your point about changing contracts because of the anti-trust suit...how would that make any sense? The suit is still in litigation just recently getting certified I believe. If successful, THAT’S when the UFC will try to settle and make changes. Before that happens, they have no incentive to do so.

You have one contract vs the actual speech on video in an interview by the UFC president about UFC contracts. How long ago is the said contract you speak of? Does every single fighter have the exact same contract?

Plus you should have seen the public negotiations dealing with Jon Jones pay online like everyone else has. Like I said before, that wouldn't be able to happen if there was a gag order about their pay. Jones would not be speaking on how much he makes and how much more he wants to make and there would be no public negotiations going on about his pay.

Like I said before fighters are allowed to talk about their pay, they just choose not to. Just like most people, they don't want people knowing how much or how little they really make.