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Dana White never had the makings of a UFC athlete, this is why he's such an asshole to his fighters
News UFC commissioned its own study on fighter pay
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You know that no one gives a shit who you call out or what you think, right? You're just another child yelling and calling people names on the Internet. There is more to life than swinging from the nuts of a bald old man. You should get yourself a life.
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Counter point - I'm paying $80 to watch a PPV card, and its behind two paywalls. In total to watch UFC content in the USA is a yearly investment of around $1,000.
I'd like to see guys who don't work second jobs, or fighting on short notice because they have no advocacy.
For what I'm paying I'd like to see professionally trained and prepared athletes. That makes for higher level fights. I'm the paying customer and there is nothing wrong or unusual about having an opinion on what I'm getting for my money.
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it’s neck and neck with Bullriding
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I really don't get why fans continue to want to hold the UFC responsible. They are a business and aren't going to over pay if they don't have to, nor should they as no other business do unless forced to change their ways. All those sports would be ecstatic if they could be under 20%.
Start blaming the fighters and management of those fighters to let this shit continue to go on because it isn't going to change until they force them to.
Start blaming the fighters and management of those fighters to let this shit continue to go on because it isn't going to change until they force them to.
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Just because they get paid more doesn’t mean they’re gonna fight harder.
I understand you pay for the product therefore you can critique it. No problem.
Take care
Phil
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Take identical twins in their athletic prime.
One is paid enough to be a full time fighter - their only job is preparing for fights. Regimented daily discipline and cross-discipline training. High quality food and rest is budgeted appropriately in their schedule. Its OK to travel long distance for weeks at a time to the best facilities like ATT for fight camp.
The other twin is paid 12k to show. They work a full time day job to pay their bills and train in the evening and weekends as they can fit it in.
Which one will have a better performance?
If I'm paying $80 a card to a company bringing in over a billion in revenue each year, I don't want to see guys who are poorly prepared, working side jobs and taking short notice fights in desperation. This is the big leagues and I want and expect see professional athletes. With the current revenue split, we are getting cheated for the money.
That actually is miles from the reality of the situation. Of course the UFC is responsible, they are the ones holding the power. Employees ARE forcing them to change and that is what the lawsuit is; there is no other means to do that.
Right, and the amount of revenue sharing clearly affects the talent/professionalism pool; you attract more people (and have a better pool to choose from) if you pay better; there is a reason they call money 'the bottom line.'
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Very CCP of you UFC
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Agreed.
We are shuffling around old farts at heavyweight because suitably young, suitably athletic young men that size are not remotely interested in UFC pay.
Upper weight divisions are shallow because UFC entry pay is 12k to get brain damage live on PPV. The risk -vs- reward is completely out of balance for anyone with options.
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You’re not being cheated. Knock it off.
Fighter pay is based off of how many butts you put in seats or how many ppv’s you sell. It’s the entertainment business.
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I wonder why so many fighters want a UFC contract?
I wonder why so many UFC fighters love their jobs?
There was one dumbass in this thread who said, "Anyone who funds their own study is dodgy."
Every day, all over the planet, business entities "fund their own study" to learn something or otherwise improve some aspect of their business. Somewhere back in time, UFC paid mercer a fight bonus to "study" and summarize athlete compensation.
According to @STRYDG , that information is somehow incriminating?
You people are all a bunch of homosexual socialist morons.
The thing that all of you never want to talk about:
If you could get UFC and a UFC fighter in the same room, and the room had no rules and no laws, and all parties knew that, and then you spewed your spiel in the room, the fighter would beat the fuck out of you for threatening his livelihood.
The fighter wants his or her job. They like it their job and their chosen life.
They don't need a cunt socialist babysitter.
That's the thing you gheyzers always forget.
These people are mature adults making their way in the world and having fun and making money, and you cunts accomplish nothing that benefits any of them.
Fucking communist dunces.
STFU and go get a haircut and a real job.
I wonder why so many UFC fighters love their jobs?
There was one dumbass in this thread who said, "Anyone who funds their own study is dodgy."
Every day, all over the planet, business entities "fund their own study" to learn something or otherwise improve some aspect of their business. Somewhere back in time, UFC paid mercer a fight bonus to "study" and summarize athlete compensation.
According to @STRYDG , that information is somehow incriminating?
You people are all a bunch of homosexual socialist morons.
The thing that all of you never want to talk about:
If you could get UFC and a UFC fighter in the same room, and the room had no rules and no laws, and all parties knew that, and then you spewed your spiel in the room, the fighter would beat the fuck out of you for threatening his livelihood.
The fighter wants his or her job. They like it their job and their chosen life.
They don't need a cunt socialist babysitter.
That's the thing you gheyzers always forget.
These people are mature adults making their way in the world and having fun and making money, and you cunts accomplish nothing that benefits any of them.
Fucking communist dunces.
STFU and go get a haircut and a real job.
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Exactly. Last I had heard there were 600 UFC fighters; a fraction of a single percentage point of them actually get paid for being a PPV draw.
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Damn so UFC fighters are overpaid.
They need to stop complaining.
They need to stop complaining.
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Dana is worth ~$500m.
Even Conor, the UFC's biggest ever star, is only worth ~$200m
Even Conor, the UFC's biggest ever star, is only worth ~$200m
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It's very simple, most sport leagues athletes had to do it. They just need to ban together and get a judge to rule they are either independent contractors or employees. Then from there they can form an association and union or just a union depending on what the court rules them as. Then they can have a seat at the table. Until then nothing will ever change. Even the current lawsuit isn't going to force the UFC to change there business practices drastically when it comes to paying individual fighters or even very much on the every day business side of things.
Most major sports it took decades of them operating before the athletes had enough. None of these leagues out of the goodness of there heart is going to come anywhere near 50% split without being forced to do it. No employer on any level just pays extra to there employees to complete the task at hand even though many could pay them much more. It's a combination of the employee and market place that sets the rate. If the market is saying that job pays between 18 and 20 bucks an hour and you are employer looking for a new employee you probably will have to pay them 18 to 20 bucks an hour or maybe even a buck or two over the average to right candidate. You aren't going to just say, I can afford $35 bucks so I'll just do that. Business is business and point is profits in most cases.
