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They just sent me an email saying you can get 25% off 'select seats' with code: MSGFIGHT
Might not apply to the seats you want but worth trying if you haven't booked.
UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC
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They just sent me an email saying you can get 25% off 'select seats' with code: MSGFIGHT
Might not apply to the seats you want but worth trying if you haven't booked.
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No, not really, none whatsoever. I mean, like I said Hendricks is very small for a 185 pound fighter while Bamgbose is not only big, but he’s fast, awkward explosive and is able to generate a lot of velocity in his movements. All of this combined to help him land strikes on Borra as well as get a couple take downs. That said, if you remember Borra jumped right back up and was never controlled on the mat at all. That said, Johny has never been an exceptional top fighter where he could just take you down and control you for large portions of a fight. Just remember how many times that he was able to take Carlos Condit down and Carlos popped right back up.
What’s more, consider the fact that Johny struggled mightily to take Kos or Pierce down and was actually in a 50/50 clinch battle with them for a large swaths of the fight. Meanwhile, Rick Story actually was able to neutralize him to the point of picking up a victory. Having said that, Johny is an excellent wrestler — but again, he is a ghost of his former self. Like I said, he has lost 4 of 5 fights, and 6 of his last 9 bouts. Even against Hector he barely eked out a victory. And that was a post USADA Hector, who was back up at middleweight and is a husk of his former self as well.
If you take in consideration how much Johny struggled against the aforementioned 170 pound wrestle/boxers in Josh, Pierce and Story and then even more so against the 185 pound Boetsch, it doesn’t give me too much hope that he’s going to all the sudden be able to keep a monster like Borra down. Not long enough to win two of three rounds needed to get his hand raised in victory.
Instead, I believe Borra is going to stifle any TDs Johny throws at him while kicking the shit out of his midsection and land bombs over the top. I only expect Borra to look better than last. Incidentally, BoHo reminds me of a prime Hector Lombard but with a more nuanced striking skill set. Meanwhile, Johnny is a fucking husk of the 170 pounds force he once was.
As such, I totally expect the former Oklahoma State Cowboy to get torpedoed in the first by this Brazilian battleship
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That was I who posted it.
I met TJ and his group a few months back at a Chipolte in OC. Friendly group and talked for awhile. I guess his training is just off the charts.
The beating and PACE he put on Lineker was something to behold. +150 is off IMO
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My hot take for this card is Bisping is bad and washed up and GSP will win
3 years ago GSP would have been like -800 vs Bisping, and Bisping hasnt improved with age so much as he has been massively lucky. Why so much confidence he has surpassed the GOAT? He is 2 years older and looked awful vs Hendo.
Also this is going to decision a ton, and the crowd will favor GSP and the judges may as well since UFC can make another big $$$ fight with GSP win. Cant do shit with Bisping W
3 years ago GSP would have been like -800 vs Bisping, and Bisping hasnt improved with age so much as he has been massively lucky. Why so much confidence he has surpassed the GOAT? He is 2 years older and looked awful vs Hendo.
Also this is going to decision a ton, and the crowd will favor GSP and the judges may as well since UFC can make another big $$$ fight with GSP win. Cant do shit with Bisping W
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GSP/Bisping GTD is 1.72 and it is the best play for this fight, i think. Already puted 2u on O4.5 @1.80 and thinking to add some more. I cant see arguments against this. GSP doesn`t have the power to KO Bisping and he has a great chin by himself. Maybe catching Bisping with some GnP shot, but it doesnt look very possible to me.
Too many question marks for GSP and Bisping did nothing impressive in his last fights. Maybe will put a unit on GSP because of the good old times...
Too many question marks for GSP and Bisping did nothing impressive in his last fights. Maybe will put a unit on GSP because of the good old times...
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I’m surprised 217 sales are bombing so hard. I guess the first time in ny factor wore off and people are balking at the prices
I had to pay $1500 a pop last year, but mystic mac was on the card and all of Ireland flew to ny to see him
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After research I have reconsidered my position on Masvidal vs Thompson
Jorge Masvidal is my guy and I've bet him in his last few fights, it was hard to watch him get backpacked by Maia and lose another split. Everytime Masvidal loses it's a close fight which is why his last 4 losses are all splits. He's a tough fight for anyone in the division. I honestly thought Masvidal would beat Maia and go on to beat Woodley.
Masvidal is only 32 and he's in his prime right now, he has become a more aggressive fighter and he has polished his game up over a long career with a lot of experience. The Cerrone fight was his best performance yet, Masvidal broke Cerrone before Cerrone was broke.
Thompson who is 34 had his shot, he had two, he failed, he fought scared. Thompson has a solid resume but he fought a lot of guys when they weren't at there best, all his big wins are tainted, he just fought a lot of guys at the right time. Whittaker at 170, declining Hendricks, Broken McDonald, none of those guys were even close to their best when they fought Thompson.
Masvidal will be the best striker Thompson has fought in the UFC, no doubt about it. I think Masvidal is definitely capable of out striking Thompson. Masvidal's boxing is some of the best in MMA and it's going to give Thompson problems. Thompson has his hands down and chin up, Masvidal is going to touch him.
Hearing Masvidal's interviews builds my confidence in him. I favour Masvidal to beat almost every welterweight in the UFC but I do think Thompson is one of the tougher fights stylistically, I do favour Masvidal to win though. +145 hard to pass up, Masvidal is being underestimated. Masvidal wanted this fight.
Masvidal + Covington = Easy Money Campaign, I gotta stay loyal to that, ride that money train
Jorge Masvidal is my guy and I've bet him in his last few fights, it was hard to watch him get backpacked by Maia and lose another split. Everytime Masvidal loses it's a close fight which is why his last 4 losses are all splits. He's a tough fight for anyone in the division. I honestly thought Masvidal would beat Maia and go on to beat Woodley.
Masvidal is only 32 and he's in his prime right now, he has become a more aggressive fighter and he has polished his game up over a long career with a lot of experience. The Cerrone fight was his best performance yet, Masvidal broke Cerrone before Cerrone was broke.
Thompson who is 34 had his shot, he had two, he failed, he fought scared. Thompson has a solid resume but he fought a lot of guys when they weren't at there best, all his big wins are tainted, he just fought a lot of guys at the right time. Whittaker at 170, declining Hendricks, Broken McDonald, none of those guys were even close to their best when they fought Thompson.
Masvidal will be the best striker Thompson has fought in the UFC, no doubt about it. I think Masvidal is definitely capable of out striking Thompson. Masvidal's boxing is some of the best in MMA and it's going to give Thompson problems. Thompson has his hands down and chin up, Masvidal is going to touch him.
Hearing Masvidal's interviews builds my confidence in him. I favour Masvidal to beat almost every welterweight in the UFC but I do think Thompson is one of the tougher fights stylistically, I do favour Masvidal to win though. +145 hard to pass up, Masvidal is being underestimated. Masvidal wanted this fight.
Masvidal + Covington = Easy Money Campaign, I gotta stay loyal to that, ride that money train
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36 years old hasn’t fought in 4 years moving up in weight to fight for the title?
These fairy tale stories usually don’t work out well
If gsp can’t take down bisping, he will get walked down and beaten up badly.
He took beatings in his last few fights but managed to get the takedowns and ended up getting some decisions he probably wouldn’t get now with the judging criteria changes
If you’re betting on gsp you’re just not #elite
He’s got Major red flags. He’s not even an underdog. Out of all the fighters on the card why would you pick gsp? It’s like betting machida in the last event.
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Fellow Canadians and anyone with access to Ohmbet. They have a promotion offering GSP at +400. Small limits but you can continue to max it over the week. Also if you weren't aware they offer LB for all fights including FP prelims, even had DWCS livebet for the first episode.
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http://www.sherdog.com/events/UFC-217-Bisping-vs-St-Pierre-61989
Bisping is a gift at evens..! I don’t see a path to victory for GSP. 4 year layoff, moving up to MW, fighting Bisping who is massive compared to George. I capped Bisping at -250. Bet the house on Bisping! These kind of gifts don’t come very often.
I also like Garbrant and Masvidal. Great card.
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I was heavy on Brunson and don't think this is comparable at all.
Machida is 39, had PED suspensions, and was savagely finished 2 fights in a row. GSP still went out on a winning streak before he was truly washed up, even after this time off he is only 36. And he's had plenty of time to add bulk to work at 185.
No doubt GSP is a risk, but he isn't an obvious shell like Machida. He seems like the type of guy who can intelligently train himself back to a pretty good fighter. I wouldn't give him a chance vs Woodley, Whittaker, Rockhold, etc...but Bisping isn't good at all, which is why he took the fight.
I don't think this is a premium bet. It's my weakest lean on main card. Of course there are risks, but I have a lot of faith in Bisping sucking and I don't believe GSP should be expected to be total ass.
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Bisping is a gift at evens! I capped him at -250. I don’t see any path to victory for GSP. Moving up to middle weight, 4 year layoff, fighting a huge opponent in Bisping, etc. Bet the house on Bisping, these opportunities don’t come along often.
I also like Masvidal and Garbrant to win, not putting any $ on those though.
I also like Masvidal and Garbrant to win, not putting any $ on those though.
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Gotta agree with you guys on Dillashaw, +150 is off, I think the Cruz looked bad in the Garbrandt fight and maybe Garbrandt is a little overrated right now. Garbrandt's back injury also raises questions.
Dillashaw has the overall better game, he has a more diverse skillset and I don't think he's outmatched anywhere. This will most likely be a very competitive fight but I do give a very slight lean to Dillashaw.
Dillashaw has the overall better game, he has a more diverse skillset and I don't think he's outmatched anywhere. This will most likely be a very competitive fight but I do give a very slight lean to Dillashaw.
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GSP was already on his way out when he retired. Tons of injuries and personal issues. Not to mention blaming time loss from CTE on aliens.
Bisping gonna get an easy W over another GOAT. Trust me on this. If you don't have 5 units on Bisping you can't be taken seriously as a bettor IMO.
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Another easy W? Hendo was 10 years older than GSP is now and wasn't as GOAT and Bisping deserved to lose.
Silva kicked his ass but wasn't playing to win rounds and lost a borderline decision. Leites could have gone either way.
Bisping's career is defining by one punch vs Rockhold. He can't beat any decent fighter comfortably in decision. Lost to 35 y/o Tim Kennedy and 34 y/o Sonnen He can be outwrestled by non-elite fighters.
He is extremely lucky that he landed on Rockhold and his last 3 close decisions were all in England or Scotland. Now he's fighting in NYC and the judges won't favor him in a close fight this time.
I understand the limited confidence in GSP, but everybody who is confident in 38 year old Bisping is crazy.
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Hendo has one punch KO power. GSP doesn't.
Silva has arguably the best striking ever and Bisping beat his ass besides the cheap shot knee.
Kennedy and Chael were on anabolic steroids. Post USADA they get whooped by Bisping, as do every one of the known cheaters who beat Bisping pre USADA.
I understand you've only watched MMA for a couple months but you can't just use records in your analysis without context.
Bisping has proven TDD and will be a very tough fight for GSP with the size advantage he'll have as well as his endless cardio and volume.
At the end of the day, there's countless red flags surrounding GSP and when has anyone ever looked good off such a long layoff?
Bisping is easy money at these odds, no doubt about it.
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