UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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small plays so far on TJ and bisping as small dogs; hoping thompson evens out is my first instinct.

gonna do more on TJ for sure and prolly just gonna live bet any further action on bisping
 
I’m 1U on Bisping 2.20, I think I’ll wait and hope for peeps to play GSP more and get a better line.

Also took JJ at 1.25 2U.
 
Shoulder said:
I’m 1U on Bisping 2.20, I think I’ll wait and hope for peeps to play GSP more and get a better line.

Also took JJ at 1.25 2U.
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Instead of this i see Bisping`s line going down from 2.20 to 2.10 in bet365
 
northsofia said:
Instead of this i see Bisping`s line going down from 2.20 to 2.10 in bet365
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Hmm, oh well. I think there are too many unknowns in this fight to go big on any side.
 
already in on bisping at +365 by decision gret value on that one in my opinion. Waiting on that jj line will take her by deciison also. Like dillashaw at plus but may just play the over 3.5
 
Monster Meat said:
already in on bisping at +365 by decision gret value on that one in my opinion. Waiting on that jj line will take her by deciison also. Like dillashaw at plus but may just play the over 3.5
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took it +364 on dimes just now, idk why i didn't really look at that previously
 
Shoulder said:
Hmm, oh well. I think there are too many unknowns in this fight to go big on any side.
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This is how I feel.

On one hand GSP has been aging while the talent pool is increasing, and he may not have the strongest comeback.

On the other hand, would anybody be sniffing Bisping before his last 3 fights? And were his last 3 fights really that good? Got rocked by old men Silva + Hendo and was lucky to edge out more rounds. And give credit to his striking, but there is some degree of luck that he lit up Rockhold's soft chin early.

I think GSP is slightly more likely to win. But I'm not touching this one. I do think betting on the over + decisions is the only way to go. Or draw!
 
Waiting for weigh-ins and shit, but I think the value's on GSP. Bisping has frankly not impressed me in his last 3 fights, despite having bet on him to beat Silva and Hendo. I also don't think GSP would be coming back if he didn't know he had a very good shot at this. It's about the best chance at winning 2 titles that he could ever have.

Bisping won off Silva's recent disdain for any fight outcome that isn't a beautiful highlight real OHKO, which has been obvious since the Diaz fight, and his own toughness. Rockhold didn't take him seriously, and Hendo put him in serious trouble for a dude who had been absolutely mauled by any top 10 MW for the last few bouts before that.
 
EzFlyer said:
small plays so far on TJ and bisping as small dogs; hoping thompson evens out is my first instinct.

gonna do more on TJ for sure and prolly just gonna live bet any further action on bisping
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What do you cap tj vs cody at? I lean 60-40/ 65-35 cody. Only thing stopping me is his back problem which should be good but back problems are tricky
 
EzFlyer said:
small plays so far on TJ and bisping as small dogs; hoping thompson evens out is my first instinct.

gonna do more on TJ for sure and prolly just gonna live bet any further action on bisping
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I'm really into the idea of fading Cody, but I'm a bit nervous that TJ doesn't offer much that Cruz doesn't outside of more finishing power.

And TJ also has a worse chin so I'm worried that this is a replay of Cody/Cruz but with Cody finishing this time
 
I dropped a huge gamble on Bisping at 2.42 when the fight was originally announced. The long preparation time makes me nervous. GSP playing time was smart and chances that the comeback is just a midlife crisis thing gets slimmer. I have to seriously trim that bet down, which was not my original intention.
 
Do people think GSP will be able to outwrestle Bisping in a 5 round fight? I don't. TRT Chael barely did. I think he may be able to land a takedown or two, but he'll gas out using a wrestle centric game plan against a bigger fighter with solid tdd and good cardio. So assuming GSP is forced to stand, when was the last time he was forced to fight a stand up fight against someone with high level striking? Hendricks? Not impressed with his performance there. GSP has made a career out of using his skills to exploit his oppenents' gaping weaknesses, but I don't see him doing it here. I expect this to be a stand up war and I give Bisping a small edge. I think this is easily GSP's toughest fight ever. Tough way to come back after a multi year layoff.

I'm also curious to see how GSP will look physically in his first post USADA fight. This is a guy that developed a mysterious case of gyno during his career.
 
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Papi said:
What do you cap tj vs cody at? I lean 60-40/ 65-35 cody. Only thing stopping me is his back problem which should be good but back problems are tricky
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the exact opposite :) 60-66 tj, therabouts
 
Barkus said:
Do people think GSP will be able to outwrestle Bisping in a 5 round fight? I don't. TRT Chael barely did. I think he may be able to land a takedown or two, but he'll gas out using a wrestle centric game plan against a bigger fighter with solid tdd and good cardio. So assuming GSP is forced to stand, when was the last time he was forced to fight a stand up fight against someone with high level striking? Hendricks? Not impressed with his performance there. GSP has made a career out of using his skills to exploit his oppenents' gaping weaknesses, but I don't see him doing it here. I expect this to be a stand up war and I give Bisping a small edge. I think this is easily GSP's toughest fight ever. Tough way to come back after a multi year layoff.

I'm also curious to see how GSP will look physically in his first post USADA fight. This is a guy that developed a mysterious case of gyno during his career.
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i expect gsp to have some success early.. but i think he wears down against bisping getting up / being hard to hold down / size differential / layoff
 
Bisping via stoppage is all I'm interested in right now
 
EzFlyer said:
the exact opposite :) 60-66 tj, therabouts
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How do you see the fight playing out? I think codys boxing and footwork is to crisp for tj. I think tj will have more success than dom but i see a clear dec for cody
 
TJ will be my biggest MMA bet of the year. Probably 10-15u - every now and then you gotta roll them dice.
 
Papi said:
How do you see the fight playing out? I think codys boxing and footwork is to crisp for tj. I think tj will have more success than dom but i see a clear dec for cody
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Tj has more versatile striking, better wrestling , etc

I am in the camp that says Cody beat a waaaay lesser version of Cruz than the fought. He was NOT moving like Cruz should move. I know Dom said he has no excuse on fight night but didn't it come out that his foot was fucked?

Either way, yea. Cody has better boxing but tj has better kicks, etc, wrestling, and can work Cody if he does take him down
 
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